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Pictures Leaked of 3 new Palm handhelds

ahecht writes "On Thursday, Palm's Solutions Group's CEO Todd Bradley announced that 3 new handhelds will be released in October. Within 24 hours, pictures of all three handhelds have leaked out on the web. The first to be released, the sub-$100 Zire, can be seen here. The second handheld, previously known as Oslo, now has the name Tungsten T, and features OS 5 and built in bluetooth (pictured here). The third handheld is the Tungsten W, pictured here, which is a GPRS smartphone (although it does not have a built-in speaker or microphone). Zire will be released October 7th, while both Tungsten models will be released on October 28th." Could just be rumors or fakes, but it seems reasonable.

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  1. Nasty Screens by Nobley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When will they start making PDAs with electronic paper for the moniters making them more natural to read, LCD screens arent all that nice to look at for too long, especially at palm size.

  2. first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Can`t wait.. I see they`ve taken alot from the Sony Clie`s design.

  3. Smartphone by jsse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    compare to this, that smartphone looks like an old nanny.

  4. Keyboards... by singularity · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why do Palm/cell manufacturers insist on putting a keyboard on their combination Palm/cell devices?

    If I am going to buy one of these devices, it is to reduce pocket-bloat by one device. That means that my primary motivation in getting one is size. Adding a keyboard only adds size.

    I suppose I can see adding a 3x4 number pad for dialing, so if they are going to add anything I would rather see a usable 3x4 pad than an attempt at adding a full keyboard to aid in data input.

    Currently I have both a Samsung SCH-3500 phone and a Sony Clie PEG-T665C. I would consider a combination phone/Palm device if one could do things as well as both of those devices. While I am all in favor of reducing pocket bloat, I find that dedicated devices do their job better than any combination device.

    In the mean time, I will use a data cable to attach the 665C to the Samsung. Although I am really eyeing the new Vision-capable phones from SprintPCS...

    Also - I have a Canon S200 camera. Until such time as a camera added to a Palm device can come close to the quality of that camera, do not even think about adding a camera to any device I am going to buy.

    That camera is portable enough (and durable enough) to end up in my pocket for times I think I *might* want to take pictures.

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    1. Re:Keyboards... by iso · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There's lots of reasons to add a keypad to a handheld device, and the "bloat" is hardly more than the writing area of a standard palm handheld. First of all, it's much faster to type than to use the braindead "grafitti" of Palm handhelds (hint: use your thumbs). You can also enter text with one hand on a keyboard, whereas with a Palm you need one hand to hold it, and the other with which to write.

      Of course you also need to realize that different people have different requirements. Beleive it or not, the world does not revolve around you. For you it's "pocket bloat," for me it's useability. The keyboard makes sense. Research in Motion was right all along. The new BlackBerries are much more useable than any Palm I've seen.

      - j

  5. Time for some.... by longhairedgnome · · Score: 2, Interesting

    HARDBALL!! and its only $100

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  6. New Kyocera by Shook · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Personally, I feel excited about the form factor of the new Kyocera 7135 I like Graffiti, but I feel a number keypad is very necessary. It seems like this Kyocera might finally get it right. (Although many people are complaining that it doesn't have the new features of PalmOS 5)

  7. Cellular phone with SSH? by OSSturi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When reading "PDA" I've thought about what a PDA would have to be able to do for me. Well, an SSH client would be enough. I could read an write mails on my server, manage my text-based calendar and administer my server. But why a PDA with SSH and a cellular phone to transmit the data? Why not just a cellular phone? They can handle mail, pictures, online-games already. SSH should be relatively trivial to add. Does anyone know of such a thing?

    Yes, please correct my spelling and grammar mistakes, I'd like to improve my English.

  8. Re:Palm must be one of the dumbest companies on ea by waytoomuchcoffee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The mantle has been passed in the Palm front. Sony has one hell of a product right now. The NR70 has 320x480 res, virtual grafitti, and can do practically everything a PPC can do, but with 1/20 the MIPs. Plus it looks a lot cooler. And did I mention that the NR70 was just discontinued? Let's see what happens when they announce their Xscale version of the NR70 in a few days. Should be an interesting next couple of months. Competition is good.

    Note to get here it took two things -- Sony to pump up the Palm brand, and MS to fumble and not support Xscale routines in the PPC OS. I find it amazing, after years of Palm letting its OS rot, that the Palm OS will actually have a (rather large) advantage in at least one aspect -- ability to actually use Xscale routines and power-saving modes that will have to wait until the next version of the MS OS. Not to mention the Palm OS can use other processors as well. I would never have guessed this happening a year ago, when PPCs had a large lead in both software and hardware.

  9. Stop wasting space for dedicated handwriting pad by BlueF · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hate to say it gang, by I actually prefer most of the WinCE PDAs that I've seen (despite their clunky sizes). I say this becuase the lack of a 1/2" strip dedicated to handwriting really make sense to me.

    I currently use a Palm V and while I love it's small size (thickness) it would be SO much better with out all that space wasted (hell, same goes even for the buttons).

    My ideal PDA would have come with a very thin footprint, hi-rez color, and all screen... as big as they're going to make these things, why not get down to the business of letting us view, read, type, watch things on the _whole_ PDA?!?*

    *Of course... wireless, tons of memory (slot upgrade), and good quality sound are also desired (in as small of a package as possible). : )

  10. Re:The Zire? by paja · · Score: 3, Interesting

    2M is just what would consider fine (in account of usual size of PalmOS apps) and I think I could live with it for a reasonable amount of time.

    I am a happy owner of PalmVx (I know, it has 8M) and I have 1M free. I have looked at memory stats and I have 2.5M in docs, 1.5M in plucker and around ~.5M of useful data, the rest is bunch of crap people are beaming to me (Palm based company with one really keen owner of m515).

    Which leaves me on what You expect of PDA?

    I think I can specify (and live with 2M):
    - contact
    - memo
    - calc (custom, i hate palm calc)
    - datebook (pretty satisfied with the default)
    - one or two really stupid games to kill time on airport or business meeting
    - infra to exchange info
    which is good average, on top of this I would like the following:

    - serial cable & terminal emulator
    - IP range/subnet calculator

    actually I think, that 2M is not a big win and 4M would be better, but I think this Zire would be my choice if I would be considering a PDA for employees in small bussiness...

    again: consider the size of applications (excluding dictionaries, city plans and other similar things) - that 2.5M of isilo docs are FreeBSD handbook, compete all 5 volumes of Hitchikers Guide to Galaxy, 5 other books...

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