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Google Does the News

rizen was among the countless readers who submitted that google does the news. They've added a new tab to their interface, and a CNNish sorta web page that indexes thousands of online news sites. Their technology section is showing some Slashdot stories too (sweet!). I like that they combine related stories on the same subject. Nifty setup.

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  1. Sweetness and light... by Bonker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can load relevant headlines without waiting for my browser to time out on CNN's AOL/Netscape banner every time.

    Still, I wonder how the other news sources are going to react. They make their revenue on advertisting and if Google is skimming off the top of their viewership, I have to wonder if they're not going to start kvetching pretty quickly.

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    1. Re:Sweetness and light... by Quaryon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, Google only links to headlines at other sites, rather than publishing the articles themselves - so I suspect there will soon be a race by each of these sites to figure out how to get the top article in each section..!

      Q.

    2. Re:Sweetness and light... by rosewood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know I had never used some of the sites that I was reading from just a minute ago until I stumbled upon news.google.com . So, I figure in the end a lot of sites are only going to garner new hits?

    3. Re:Sweetness and light... by night_flyer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      they can stop deeplinking with a simple HTTP_REFFER statement in their language of choice. Just because they are to lazy to implement it doesnt mean they need to get lawyers involved...

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  2. Regions by nick255 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At the moment it has World and U.S. sections. I think what it could really do with is different regional sections, which would be default to different regions URLs. (eg. news.google.co.uk having a UK section). It really doesn't interest me that much that South Dakota is to vote on extending jury rights!

    1. Re:Regions by Peyna · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would be even better if they offered more stories from news sources arond the world. I've noticed in the past that if I read a story on CNN.com, and then go read it on El Mundo or Le Monde that you tend to get a very different point of view. Especially with stories that look at the United States or International issues. A real good example was the recent problems in Argentina and how the US news presented it, and how international news sources presented it.

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    2. Re:Regions by writermike · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It would be even better if they offered more stories from news sources arond the world. I've noticed in the past that if I read a story on CNN.com, and then go read it on El Mundo or Le Monde that you tend to get a very different point of view.

      I agree with you. I think this would be a very nice addition to the site. You should suggest that to them.

      In the meantime, you want World News Review.

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  3. Re:google's great, but.... by theRhinoceros · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As long as it's better* than msn, excite, yahoo or the like, yes.

    *bett er - adj Does not have insanely annoying banner ads everywhere, nor advertisements disguised as headlines, or random flash popups or interstitial ads.

  4. Well done... by truesaer · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This even has my college newspaper. Normally that wouldn't be much of a feature, but they do have coverage of our football team that no one else has. So I'm fairly impressed. The timestamp when the articles were spidered was really nice as well.


    This is a long overdue feature....its automatic, robust, and I've often wanted to read another take on the same issue when I've read a news article. I hope that they have it set up to filter out all the repeated AP articles that are on 2 zillion different websites. But I'm guessing they did, it would just be similar to filering out similar results in general searches.

  5. Just a suggestion by nicedream · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe since slashdot's stories are being picked up by a big news site, this would be a good time to implement some spelling/grammar/fact checkers.

  6. I don't like it by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    As much as I respect google, I for one am not happy to hear the news (no pun intended). In my opinion google has built an indredible userbase by supplying the top quality search service with a simple UI, and stood out because it was not a portal wanna be.

    I am worried that google will loose focus on the primary reason that people go there, and the search service will suffer because of it. Fair enough that the service will be usefull, but when you're on top you need to work twice as hard on your primary product to stay there.

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    1. Re:I don't like it by FreshFunk510 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think that's a pretty narrow way to look at it. Yes, their initial product was a search engine but you may want to think of Google News as an extension of what they do. I'm sure they used a lot of the search/index tools for their search engine to create the news site. They've certainly used to find the stories and then provide related stories thereafter (just like Similar Page for link results).

      Also, I don't think they've gone all out and created a portal (at least in comparison to what's out there). What really struck me was that they had almost no graphics and pure content. Portals, in themselves, are not bad; I just think many people have done them bad.

      Lastly, I don't think they are really working twice as hard on this. It just seems like a way to extend their user base and grow. If they just stayed with a search engine that would mean a lot less expansion of the company (and companies usually always need to expand and re-invent themselves to stay in the game).

      Congrats Google!

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  7. Re:Clean look and good international support by d^2b · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Hmm. I know its not cool to pick on people's English when you don't speak their language, but living in Munich I was amused by the following quote from the Islamic Republic News Agency
    "This government will only govern for a very short time," Stoiber told his disappointing supporters at a gathering in Munich, broadcast live on German television.
    I mean, hey, Bavarians are a unique bunch, but disappointing seems a bit harsh, especially during Oktoberfest :->

    Seriously though, I wonder just how the IRNA one paragraph story got to be number two on the list of sources.

    B.T.W., and this is probably redundant, but if you think slashdotting is cool, wait till google news points at your community newspaper.

  8. robots.txt by FyRE666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm guessing Google still respects this, so it's pretty simple to stop it from deep linking...

  9. Exellent! But.... by jonr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would it be possible to localize it more? Right now it is -1, Too US-Centric. This could be my startup page. :)

  10. Figures by guttentag · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Late last night I finally uploaded my news aggregator, "Buddy: Your Digital Retriever," to SourceForge. So as luck would have it, Google had to choose today to pseudo-launch its news feature.

    I've been aware of the Beta for some time. The search feature has been great, but the portal left much to be desired. It was basically a cluttered list of five sources for each news story. This new layout seems better, though it still leaves me wondering which stories are supposed to be the most newsworthy. And I see a fundamental problem with Google's approach.

    Taking a cross section of all the news that's out there is not going to result in good coverage. One of the big differences between a good newspaper, like The New York Times, and a poor one, like The New York Daily News, is the collection of stories the editors choose. The Daily News needs to get its readers fired up to sell papers, so it covers the most provocative stories it can find and sensationalizes them. The Times has the luxury of knowing its readers trust it to inform them of the most important news.

    I know it sounds like an elitist position -- "we know what's best for you." I was once accosted at a party by a USA Today employee who began ranting about how arrogant it was of my paper to assume people wanted to read about human rights abuses in Africa. I asked him what we should be featuring and he detailed a series of articles his paper ran on business travellers who get laid by stewardesses at 30,000 feet. I didn't argue with him, but I felt somewhat more confident that we were choosing the right stories.

    If Google covers the news based on what's out there (which is primarily of the USA Today variety), as opposed to applying news values, its offering won't be very informative. It may appeal to the largest number of people who confuse entertainment with news, but I think most Slashdotters will find it very shallow.

    There's also the question of Google's "partnerships" with news sites and how that will affect the rankings.

    While I still like the news search feature, I prefer the collection of shell scripts I just released. They grab the top headlines and blurbs from a number of major newspapers and put them together on one page, organized by newspaper, so you can browse "trusted" news sites quickly without having to wade through cumbersome javascript navigations, flash ads, registration. You still visit the newspapers' Web sites to read the stories that interest you, but this way you get to check out the merchandise before you commit to jumping through the content owner's hoops.

    My aggregator also provides updated lists of all the headlines that have appeared on the wire services in the last several hours. The editors at the news sites are watching these same lists for updates when breaking news occurs... even the major sites that have a large number of reporters. They can't cover everything themselves, and they need to have some coverage until their reporter can get to the story.

    It also covers computer news sites like Slashdot (note: the list is currently very Mac-centric because the shell scripts require Curl to trick servers into thinking the download program is a Web browser... I'll try to do the same with wget for Linux, but that's not ready yet), grabs sports scores, the weather report, comic strips, and fetches slippers.

    If you're using Mac OS X, or you're willing to install Curl on your Linux box, give it a try. It's free and it's open source.