Google Does the News

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Posted by ryuzaki0 on Monday September 23, 2002 @02:25AM from the hey-mister-wanna-buy-the-paper dept.

rizen was among the countless readers who submitted that google does the news. They've added a new tab to their interface, and a CNNish sorta web page that indexes thousands of online news sites. Their technology section is showing some Slashdot stories too (sweet!). I like that they combine related stories on the same subject. Nifty setup.

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Been beta for a while by salimma · 2002-09-23 02:41 · Score: 5, Informative

.. it's just linked to the main page now. For something extra-schweet though, try their experimental keyboard-navigable search interface - found it from Mycroft, the Mozilla search bar plugin project.

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Re:What About.. by geckofiend · 2002-09-23 02:41 · Score: 5, Informative

They have a partner agreement with NY Times at least that bypasses the registration requirement.
Re:Hang on a second... by macjerry · 2002-09-23 02:47 · Score: 2, Informative

What if Google links to this story? Too late, it already has. Here's the link Now watch the Internet implode...

Only took them 15 minutes or so to find the story too.
Re:Sweetness and light... by greenhide · 2002-09-23 02:55 · Score: 4, Informative

These types of links are called deep links .

There has already been quite a lot of controversy regarding deep links, dating all the way back to 1999.

In fact, one major free website hosting company, whose name escapes me at the moment, does not allow you to deep link to their members' pages. Instead, you are forced to go to that member's home page first (I imagine that they are checking for referers or some such thing).

Clearly, deep linking is beneficial, but some companies just don't get it.

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News at Google by z_gringo · 2002-09-23 02:55 · Score: 2, Informative

The beta news site has been up for some time. I guess they have finally put it into production. (Although it still says beta)

Also available, and still in beta, is the Catalog site, which provides photo versions of actual printed catalogs, including my favorite. (Radio Shack)

Google is truly breaking new ground..

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Re:Sweetness and light... by p3d0 · 2002-09-23 03:18 · Score: 5, Informative

Deep linking is also bullshit. It's called "linking" and it's no different from linking to a home page. It's just a URL. There appears to be no basis to think that any kind of linking is illegal in any way.
If companies want to force viewers through a predetermined path, the web is simply the wrong medium.

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Mozilla Crashing by Skidge · 2002-09-23 03:19 · Score: 3, Informative

Anyone else having problems with Mozilla (1.1) on the Google News site? Twice now I have had to reboot my Win98 machine after Mozilla crashed hard while I was scrolling down the Sci/Tech page. It has me a little gun-shy about revisiting the site, at least with Mozilla.
Sneak preview of upcoming Googlage by bmooney28 · 2002-09-23 03:58 · Score: 5, Informative

It has been mentioned that Google has covered news stories for quite some time. The best place to get info on Google's current projects is Google Labs...
No Reg. Required on NYTimes stories by DRue · 2002-09-23 04:02 · Score: 5, Informative

No regristration if you go to a nytimes story from google's news page! Why can't we do that? Here's google's link, for example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/21/technology/21N IN T.html?ex=1033444800&en=c4f426ba46654ccb&ei=5062&p artner=GOOGLE

I assume it's the partner=google part that bypasses the registration
Re:Sweetness and light... by ceejayoz · 2002-09-23 04:17 · Score: 3, Informative

I think Google has made deals with most of the sites they link to - the NYTimes links have "partner=google" in the URL, for example.
Hm by zapfie · 2002-09-23 05:18 · Score: 3, Informative

In case you didn't know, you can see all the latest stuff Google is working on here.

Check it out.

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About News Search by overunderunderdone · 2002-09-23 05:39 · Score: 5, Informative

It doesn't say much but their is an FAQ

The most it says about the technology is this:
How does Google decide what stories are published on the Google News homepage?

The headlines on the Google News homepage are selected entirely by a computer algorithm, based on many factors including how often and on what sites a story appears elsewhere on the web. This is very much in the tradition of Google's web search, which relies heavily on the collective judgment of web publishers to determine which sites offer the most valuable and relevant information. Google News relies in a similar fashion on the editorial judgment of online news organizations to determine which stories are most deserving of inclusion and prominence on the Google News page.
I'm guessing that the sources themselves are ranked in the usual manner. The same story from different sources are grouped and finally the placement of the story is determined by how many sources (weighted by their rank) ran it and how those sources positioned it themselves.
Re:Sweetness and light... by FroMan · 2002-09-23 06:04 · Score: 2, Informative

I've read a lot of stuff about people thinking that using HTTP_REFER is a good idea to lock people out of deep links. HTTP_REFER is NOT required. It is simpley a nice idea provided by the browser. A better solution is this: Only allow setting of a session variable (on the server) at the main page of the site. Then, require that the session variable be set at the pages that require access. This can be done transparently on the server. It also prevents the "I'm a cool hacker, I can fool you into thinking I am from your site." It can all be handled server side, which is good since if you are hosting news on the web, you are most likely running a server! This is purely a technical solution.

Not, why the hell you want people sludging around your site looking for an interesting article and why you think this improves your site, that is a mental problem for the site. If I cannot link directly into a site to the information I want, I don't go to the site.

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newsseer by sqeezer · 2002-09-23 08:15 · Score: 2, Informative

You should also check out newsseer.
Re:What About.. by Anonymous Coward · 2002-09-23 14:02 · Score: 1, Informative

Here's a link to the NYTimes Random Login Generator
I only bothered to post it because the guy I'm replying to is a total ass.