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Mozilla Jumps on 'Lean Browser' Bandwagon

fader writes "Following in the footsteps of fast (and often fantastic) wrappers around Gecko (the Mozilla rendering engine), Mozilla has just released their own lightweight browser, Phoenix. Only Phoenix will still use XUL, the cross-platform markup language used for the current Mozilla interface. Will it still be fast enough to overcome the final gripe about Mozilla, namely that it's just too slow?"

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  1. Another great title by billcopc · · Score: 0, Troll

    Mack Trucks launches compact car division.

    Microsoft creates a portable XBox system.

    Ron Jeremy goes limp.

    wh00p

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    -Billco, Fnarg.com
  2. Re:I timed it by garcia · · Score: 1, Troll

    when I try to load them they don't. When I bring them up in IE, they work.

  3. Mozilla by NetGyver · · Score: 3, Troll

    I used to use IE as my browser of choice, it was there and I used it. However, a friend turned me on to Mozilla just over a month ago and so I downloaded the latest 1.1 and gave it a run on my celly 500 + 192 megs ram.

    At first I was leery about running mozilla because I have heard that it would crash often. I think i had it crash twice since I had it installed and it was when i was turning features on and off. - It didn't crash out of the blue for me (yet) anyway. It's a hella more stable then my preconceptions gave it prior to installing.

    The first thing that got me hooked was the tabbed browsing, it's the coolest thing i've seen in a long time (as far as broswer features are concerned). Also the popup control feature is very handy when you surf around alot.

    I also like how the toolbars at the top are collapsable just by clicking the side tab thing. It doesn't REMOVE it, just minimizes it, and it's always there for you to turn back on easily. - I don't know if netscape had this already but it's pretty neat IMHO.

    Gripes - I have no gripes really, But last night i was trying to load up an old aim logfile (if you remember, aim actually had logging as a feature at one point in time)...So i loaded this aim html logfile (12 MEGS OW!!) with mozilla and it liturally took for_ever to show it. Granted, it was a hefty logfile. So i fired up IE to view the logfile and it displayed it very quickly.

    I'm not sure exactly why mozila was slower with this, my guess is that moz tries to load it all at once -before- it displays the html. IE on the other hand was very quick showing it to me, so i had a chance to read some of it while it was continuing to load in the background.

    Otherwise I'm FULLY satisfied with Mozilla, and it has become my default broswer. I was no OSS fan to begin with, but if i can get hooked on a broswer, i'm sure there are other open source programs out there that can really grab my attention too!

    - One happy convert.

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  4. Cool Feature! by mwa · · Score: 3, Troll

    Select File->Save Page As and select Text as type of file to save and the html is stripped from the file. Great for grabbing pages to view on your PDA!

  5. Mozilla obsolete from the start by DougR · · Score: 0, Troll

    IMO Mozilla's architecture is bogus. Its build on old-style monolithic C++ code. C++ is notoriously hard to get right and mozilla is buggy because of that. C++ tends to execute slowly despite being so close to the hardware due to huge code size and a heap that ends up fragmented and poor paging. Java or Microsoft .Net ® would have been far superiour technologies to build mozilla on, and it would be a lot easier to distribute due to the portability of ECMA CLI/Java code.