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Stealware: Kazaa et al Stealing Link Commissions

goombah99 writes "We all heard about spyware, well now Kazaa, Morpheus and LimeWire are sneaking a new type of nastiness onto your computer, software that - without you even knowing it - redirects commissions for online purchases you make from other vendors you make back to them. For example, if you buy a CD from an affiliate of Amazon.com, say some charity, the software fools Amazon into crediting the commission to Morpheus, not the charity! The story quotes a LimeWire Developer who admits 'While I agree that this is really a bit of a scam, it is a way for us to pay salaries while not adversely affecting our users.' The insidious part is the stealware program remains even if you delete the original P2P software. And you supposedly gave your permission when you clicked through the EULA."

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  1. Moral issues anyone? by evil_one · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'While I agree that this is really a bit of a scam, it is a way for us to pay salaries while not adversely affecting our users.'

    That's part of it, it does affect the users - money that they may have WANTED to go to a particular affiliate is now going to these guys. Yay.

    The other part is what about the affiliate contract? doesn't this violate it?

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  2. Re:Kazaa Lite by oconnorcjo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's why if your going to use Kazaa you should really use Kazaa Lite. It's Kazaa without all the spy stuff installed.

    Ok so you are saying to not do it yourself but to endorse the community around it. If the community grows (whether from "Lite" users or not), it will be good for the Kazaa company. Do you really want to support a company that is twisting the internet in such an underhanded way? At first I was like you. They put in some spyware and they said that they would take it out (which as far as I am aware, they never did) and so I downloaded the Lite and thought 'mostly harmless'. Yet now they are showing thier true colors. The Kazaa company thinks that any underhanded way they can possibly make money is fair game in bussiness and war. I don't want to support a company with no moral standard and embraces such a corporate culture. I want the whole kazaa p2p to whither and die and to be never heard of from again.

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  3. The broader picture by Steve+Franklin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been noticing for a while now that many corporate entities seem to think that their own private rules somehow take precedence over the general laws of the localities in which they operate. A quick example. My old ISP kept sending me a bill in the mail for a yearly subscription to their services that I had not used in months and had decided not to renew. I finally called up and asked them why they kept sending me a bill. Their reply was that THEIR POLICY was to renew subscriptions automatically (fortunately, they didn't have my credit card number or I would have had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get out from under them). To which I calmly replied that it was MY POLICY not to expect to be billed for items and services that I hadn't requested. The above mentioned attitude of the writers of user agreements that they can specify any old nonsense they want is just a special case of the general tendency of modern companies and institutions to try to write their own rules in complete disregard for the laws of the land. This goes for the ubiquitous rent-a-cops who parade around with guns pretending to be law enforcement officers.

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  4. Dancing with the devil by dnoyeb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What do you expect. They feel like their userbase are all criminals so they don't care about abusing them.

    Not much different of an attitude from the RIAA.

    1. Re:Dancing with the devil by loply · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funny how everybody dislikes stealing when they arent the ones doing it.

    2. Re:Dancing with the devil by Courageous · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is, they made a mistake about who they were stealing FROM. They are stealing from the affiliates, this is outright fraud, and the shrink wrapped agreement is hardly relevant. Two parties cannot agree to relinquish the rights of a third party!!!

      C//

  5. Victimless crime? by Lendrick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What really gets me is their claim that this diversion of cash doesn't hurt the customer. Sure, it doesn't cost the customer any more money, but most of the sites that have funds diverted away from them are small, special-interest sites that provide their content for free, and use that income to pay for their bandwidth. If that money dissappears, then the sites dissappear as well, and voila, the customer is now hurt. I certainly don't want *my* favorite sites dissappearing just because some amoral jackass decided he needs the money more than they do.