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Red Hat 8.0 Reviewed

Jon writes "Eugenia from OSNews is giving Red Hat 8.0 a run for its money. She posted a very detailed and balanced review for the new version of Red Hat, which aims to be a "business desktop". Very interesting article and discussion over at OSNews." Several people also sent in the stories from InternetNews as well as LinuxPlanet.

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  1. Very interesting quote by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 0, Troll
    I use KDE myself and have for years, so I can't speak to the accuracy of this review, but I found the below very helpful.

    From the article: "I fully expected KDE to blow GNOME out of the water (because they follow good engineering and UI design standards) but even I was shocked at the shoddy state of the GNOME code. It was like looking at a trainwreck. No wonder RedHat is starting to edge away from this embarassment."

  2. A shame by cca93014 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why did they get a reviewer who has trouble speaking English?

  3. Resolution.. by Perdo · · Score: 1, Troll

    Good point about desktop resolution. 2048 x 1536 should be a design goal. I have 22 inches of glass luv and the hot card to push it but I feel like I'm playing with an old 14 inch when I am in X. See what I mean?

    Monitors supporting 2048 x 1536 are not uncommon since their prices have come down to consumer land (sub $400). The big three cardmakers support that resolution.

    I shouldn't have to keep a post it on the monitor to remind me which ethernet card is where. eth0, eth1, eth2 is not infomative. If you can name something so that it's name is descriptive, you can work with it easier. Linux naming convention is crap, inherited from unix. "vi" is a text editor. Perhaps it could have been called -duh- "edit"... no, I don't need the history lesson, it's just an example.

    More examples, objectively, which ones can you tell what they do by their names?: emacs, elvis, fte, kedit, latex, word, word perfect, notepad

    "Konqueror"... what is that? Oh, navigate, explore, conquer... Inside joke with a cute k on the front to identify it with KDE.. But nothing in the name to tell a new user that it is the a browser. "rm" delete, del, trash, erase, oh!, "remove" got it!

    Nice to see the begining of good fonts and a move toward unified desktops though.

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    If voting were effective, it would be illegal by now.

  4. Too many connections by mydigitalself · · Score: 0, Troll

    Warning: Too many connections on /home/osnews/web/connect.php on line 2
    Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections in /home/osnews/web/connect.php on line 2 Could not connect to the Database

    fantastic advert for open source's scalability...

  5. Ugh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I really wish people wouldn't be so easily lured in by a "pretty" desktop, and ignore some of the REAL issues:

    1) RedHat, in abandoning most multimedia tools and particularly MP3's, are also abandoning the community of users that have legitimate uses for these tools. Overturning legislation like the DMCA will -NOT- happen if big companies like RedHat don't stand up for the rights of their users.

    2) Much in the style of Microsoft, RedHat is pushing its users (particularly business users) towards subscription services, in this case for updates. Yes, that also includes SECURITY updates. You may make the argument that they still are available for free, but up2date will claim that the server on which the free updates are located is too "busy" to process your request -- and of course, it offers the option of subscribing for a -faster- server. Anyone else guessing this free server is limited to, say, five users at most? Added to that, up2date collects information on your hardware, what packages you have installed, and sends it all off in a profile that identifies your account to your identity, your machine's identity, and the configuration of your machine. Windows XP anyone?

    3) RedHat is a business. They provide what the users -think- that they want to lure them in, and they can only be EXPECTED to take these liberties away if it becomes unprofitable for them to be maintained. Notice the amount of hype that's been put into the desktop? No mention of up2date, no mention of its casual shrugging off of software outside the GNOME 2 arena (yes, you can still get the software, I know that it's just a matter of shortcuts -- then again, you could argue that Microsoft shouldn't need to remove their shortcuts for IE and Outlook Express that are scattered all over the desktop, if you don't mind RedHat deciding what's best for you).

    Overall I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of attention the Linux community has been giving to RedHat's first true attempt at establishing an extend-embrace-extinguish policy toward Linux software and distributions. I would -like- to think that the nature of the GPL creates some immunity to this, in that other, pure distributions will still exist, but I fear that many of them will be quashed as RedHat closes its grip on the desktop-user's world.

  6. RedHat Sucks!! by quanto · · Score: 0, Troll

    Mandrake Rulez!!
    Try 9.0 Now!!
    RedHat 8.0 multimedia capabilities are way behind mandrake...

    Quanto.

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