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22lb Ice Blocks From the Sky

cavedwler writes "An article http://www.msnbc.com/news/814100.asp?0dm=-23ET over on MSNBC has an interesting writeup about large ice blocks forming in the upper atmosphere on CLEAR days. Pretty interesting read." The article talks about how this could be a harbinger of massive climactic change. Either way, I'd prefer to not have one of these things smack into my house.

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  1. Kinda fishy by sawilson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article talks about hail, but they fail to
    mention that hail ONLY comes from thunderstorms.
    Just like tornadoes ONLY come from thunderstorms.
    And almost all lighting comes from, you guessed it,
    thunderstorms. They also fail to talk about the
    freezing level. That's how a thunderstorm becomes
    a thunderstorm. A cumulus cloud that's growing
    upwards because of vorticity (air rising fast)
    grows past the freezing level. The top of the
    cloud and the bottom of the cloud get different
    charges and blammo, you have a big floating battery in the
    sky. The hail forms because there are rapidly
    moving columns of air moving up and down
    in the cloud and water trapped in that column
    gets frozen, recoated with water, frozen again,
    etc.

    The ice clouds he's talking about are
    cirrus clouds of some kind. That's basically
    any cloud made up of super tiny ice crystals
    because they are above the freezing level.
    a VERY VERY rare type of cloud is called
    cirrocumulus. This is ice crystal clouds in
    the shape of the puffy white clouds called
    cumulus that sometimes turn into thunderstorms.
    The reason these clouds are so rare is because
    they are unbelievably heavy. It takes an
    incredible amount of 'vorticity' to keep
    them up there, and they don't last long.
    If you ever see very high puffy cottonball
    looking clouds, there's a great chance you'll
    have a thunderstorm soon (24-48 hours) because
    vorticity (air rising fast) is one of the major
    things needed. There is NO WAY upper atmosphere
    vorticity is going to hold water in the air
    long enough for it to weigh 10 friggin pounds.
    There is no way that ice clouds would clump
    together and form ice. There is simply no force
    there to do that work. You might get a ball of
    something more like snow, but definitely not
    ice. I'd be more willing to bet some smartass
    with a catapult is having fun at the ice factory.
    If they said this was related to thunderstorm
    activity, I might buy it. But on a clear day?
    No way.