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Nobel Prizes for Physics Awarded to Smart People

bobol6 writes "The 2002 Nobel Prize for Physics is out. The $1 Million is split two ways: Riccardo Giacconi gets half for building the first X-Ray telescopes, and Raymond Davis, Jr and Masatoshi Koshiba split the other half. Davis invented the water tank neutrino detector, and Koshiba used a more sophisticated one to discover neutrino oscillation. The original press release is available . News articles can be found at Science Daily and The New York Times. (Free Blah di Blah)"

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  1. Smart people eh? by eggstasy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank God. Wouldn't want any dumb people getting a Nobel prize, now would we? :)

    1. Re:Smart people eh? by Munra · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did everyone hear about the farmer who won a Nobel Prize? Apparently he was out standing in his field.

    2. Re:Smart people eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny


      That was not the Nobel prize, he got the Fields medal... ;-)

  2. Chemistry prize shared between by jeorgen · · Score: 5, Informative
    Chemistry prize is shared between John Fenn, USA, Koichi Tanaka, Japan an Kurt Wüthich, Switzerland. Prize is awarded primarily for the development of powerful metods for analysing biological macro molecules, such as proteins.

    With these methods researcher can now quickly reveal what proteins are present in a sample.

    It's also possible to visualise proteins in 3D with these methods.

    The methods have revolutionised the development of new drugs and show promise in areas as food qualit control and diagnosing breast cancer and prostate cancer.

    (all according to a Swedish on-line article)

    /jeorgen

    1. Re:Chemistry prize shared between by richie2000 · · Score: 5, Informative
      Official site.

      Motivations: "for their development of soft desorption ionisation methods for mass spectrometric analyses of biological macromolecules" (John B Fenn, Koichi Tanaka) and "for his development of nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy for determining the three-dimensional structure of biological macromolecules in solution" (Kurt Wüthrich).

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  3. The Golden Globes, meanwhile, struggle on by Brento · · Score: 5, Funny

    In related news, the Golden Globes continue to be awarded to the opposite end of the academic spectrum, according to industry analysts. "Just look at Jennifer Connelly," said an unnamed source, pointing to this year's winner for Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role. "Sure, she's easy on the eyes, but she couldn't tell a neutrino from her elbow. And don't even get me started on Sissy Spacek - the woman keeps trying to reserve the periodic table at restaurants."

    Ron Howard has repeatedly gone on record that his work on 'A Beautiful Mind' puts him in the appropriate Smart People category, but that is still in dispute. Judges point to his work in Happy Days as proof.

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  4. google by ObitMan · · Score: 3, Informative
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  5. Re:lets have more winners by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 5, Informative
    Split it ten ways.

    Not possible. Paragraph four of the statutes of the Nobel foundation clearly states that a maximum of three people can share a prize.

    It's even been mentioned in the television series (where the laureates of the year are interviewed) by some US physicists that they did indeed have that in mind when applying for grants etc. I.e. not to be more than tree eligible researchers not to spoilt their chanses.

    Check out the statues of the Nobel Foundation.

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  6. Kamiokande by photonic · · Score: 5, Informative

    I believe the Japanese guy that received the prize worked at the Super-Kamiokande detector that damaged half of its photo-multiplyer tubes in a big implosion.

    Famous quote at the time of the incident: Thank goodness we got our Nobel already cooking

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  7. In other news... by kcbrown · · Score: 5, Funny
    It was recently announced that Olympic gold medals are awarded to physically fit people, Baseball Hall of Fame entries are awarded to good baseball players, and the Nebula Award is given to really good science fiction authors.

    People in the entire U.S., but especially the editors at Slashdot, were astounded and amazed by this announcement.

    "I never even suspected" said chrisd, an editor at Slashdot.

    The Dow rose 78 points today, largely in response to this announcement.

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  8. Ig Noble Prizes awarded a few days ago by maxwells+daemon · · Score: 4, Funny

    The prizes are awarded in various categories, including physics and chemistry:

    PHYSICS
    Arnd Leike of the University of Munich, for demonstrating that beer froth obeys the mathematical Law of Exponential Decay. [REFERENCE: "Demonstration of the Exponential Decay Law Using Beer Froth," Arnd Leike, European Journal of Physics, vol. 23, January 2002, pp. 21-26.]

    http://www.improb.com/ig/ig-pastwinners.html#ig2 00 2

  9. Re:title : dumbest ever by spakka · · Score: 5, Funny
    do give us an example sometime of nobel prizes being awarded to dumb people.

    Ask again after the Peace prize is announced Thursday...

  10. get the experiments right! by Alien+Perspective · · Score: 5, Informative

    Davis built the Homestake experiment, which was a radiochemical experiment to look for solar neutrinos. NOT a water-Cerenkov experiment.

    Kamiokande (Koshiba's experiment)was a water-Cerenkov experiment, however the IMB experiment (another water-Cerenkov experiment, near Cleveland) also saw the neutrinos from supernova 1987A *and* IMB had an atomic clock, so they could get accurate arrival times, which the japanese experiment couldn't.

    Kamiokande confirmed Davis' results, but so did gallium experiments in what was then the USSR and in Italy.

    1. Re:get the experiments right! by Lars+Arvestad · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Kamiokande (Koshiba's experiment)was a water-Cerenkov experiment, however the IMB experiment (another water-Cerenkov experiment, near Cleveland) also saw the neutrinos from supernova 1987A *and* IMB had an atomic clock, so they could get accurate arrival times, which the japanese experiment couldn't.

      Would that make such a difference? I was at the actual presentation yesterday, and they had registered arrival times at Kamiokande too. Maybe the precision was lame, but since they actually only registered 12 neutrinos from that supernova, it seems a wristwatch would do well enough...

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  11. Re:title : dumbest ever by Hittite+Creosote · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "Nobel Peace prize awarded to ... er ... peaceful people".

    Peaceful? I bet it's not hard to find people who wouldn't describe Theodore Roosevelt ("No triumph of peace is quite so great as the supreme triumph of war"), Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat as peaceful...

  12. Richard Feynman used to boast. . . by kfg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Lots of people have won the Nobel Prize, but to win it with an IQ of only 124, now *that's* an accomplishment!"

    He always took great pride in being a "dumb" winner.

    Of course there are many who would consider 124 pretty damned smart, but Feynman hung out with people like Hans Bethe, Neils Bohr, Albert Einstien and those other "dummies."

    KFG

    1. Re:Richard Feynman used to boast. . . by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Informative

      The history of the world argues rather strongly against the proposition that there is any correlation between religion and "ethical IQ" at all.

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  13. Go to the source! by Lars+Arvestad · · Score: 5, Informative
    I would like to recommend the Nobel prize homepage. There is a lot of information there. In particular, go check out the "further information" links for the public, where nice presentations of the science is available.

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  14. The Legacy of Einstein by InodoroPereyra · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Such a phenomenal genious was A. Einstein that he even influenced the social perception of what physics is. Being himself a theoretician, the prototype of a physicist is some sort of a lunatic doing fancy calcuations on a blackboard. However, voila, most Nobel prizes go to experimentalists. And that is the way it should be. Physics is an experimental science. If you cannot measure it, it ain't. Einstein himself understood this better than anyone, and he based his theories in solid experimental evidence.

    Now let me disgress: how does it feel winning a part of a Nobel prize ? I see it coming: "Our next speaker, Prof. Inodoro Pereyra, 1/8th of the Nobel Prize 2004"

    ;-)

  15. Re:The Nobels lost their innocence in 1969 by cperciva · · Score: 5, Informative

    Simple explanation: There isn't any Nobel Prize in Economics. There is, however, the Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel -- but while people call it a Nobel prize, it isn't, and the money for it comes from the Bank of Sweden (not from the Nobel trust).

  16. Kudos to Riccardo Giacconi by MtViewGuy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Congrats to Mr. Giacconi for winning the Nobel Prize in Physics for his research into X-ray emissions in outer space.

    It was his research with sounding rockets, the UHURU satellite and the Einstein satellite that made it possible to study unusual astronomical objects such as black holes and pulsars and allow us to peer much more closely at nebulas and other astronomical objects that have befuddled astronomers before Giacconi's pioneering work. It was his work that made it possible for the development of the NASA Chandra and ESA XMM-Newton X-ray observatory satellites.

  17. Re:title : dumbest ever by BluBrick · · Score: 3, Funny
    Sure, Marie Curie... TWICE!

    From this site comes this gem.
    "[Curie], who handles daily a particle of radium more dangerous than lightning, was afraid when confronted by the necessity of appearing before the public.""--Stéphane Lauzanne, editor-in-chief of Le Matin


    Note: Not the stage fright, but the daily handling of radium (considering she was probably the most informed person in the world on the safety or otherwise of radium!)

    Of course, I could be applying my early 21st century knowledge to her early 20th century situation.

    Highly intelligent? Yeah, sure!

    Dumb? Absolutely!

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  18. Fix IQ tests? by Gerry+Gleason · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Good grief! Stick with the first statement that it is a defective metric. Tinkering will not make it better, just different.

    Nobody thinks there is any point to a standard metric of 'beauty' or 'virtue', oh wait maybe they do ...

  19. Sadly, the Nobel Foundation Obscures This Fact by good+soldier+svejk · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are absolutely correct. However, the Nobel Foundation corruptly obscures this fact and treats the "Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel" just like a real Nobel Prize on its web site. The award is totally politicized, disproportionately awarded to the U of Chicago school, and frequently goes to fringe cranks like Ronald Coase.

    The great economist Gunnar Myrdal, who sat on the board of the Bank of Sweden, argued for the prize's abolition. In 1974 Myrdal shared the award with Freidrich Hayek. Basically, Myrdal felt that if ideologue hacks like Freidman and Hayek won the prize it was meaningless.

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