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Macworld Expo Comes Back To Boston in 2004
analog_line writes "According to this article in Business Today, in 2004 the summer Macworld Expo will move from New York City and the Javits Center back to Boston, where it rightfully belongs! As a Boston area resident, I'm ecstatic! Can't tell you how much I look forward to not having to go to New York. ;-)" This was rumored a few months ago, and I am glad to see it happen.
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I sure hope that they've finished the Big Dig (the I-90, I-93 construction project in Boston) by then. Otherwise everyone will be stuck in the potholes of South Boston before they ever get to the convention center. The Silver Line mass transit system is supposed to go to the convention center, but it's part of the Big Dig too.
In 1996, the Big Dig scheduled completion date was 2000.
In 2000, the Big Dig scheduled completion date was 2002.
In 2002, the Big Dig scheduled completion date is 2004 or 2005.
My person prediction has always been that they will finish the Big Dig when they have the contract signed for Big Dig II.
And no one can go past the whole Apple in the Big Apple stigma.
The last Mac expo in NYC was such a dis-appointment to all that went (public, developers, media) that it is not shocking that NYC didn't want it to come back. That, and the fact that the charges for JJC are going up, while Boston offered it up for free! 10's of millions of dollars is a huge overstatement of the effect of the expo, at least in terms of $ for the host city. Besides, the Boston metro area has far fewer people than NYC does. Expect the attendance to be down in comparison to expo's of the past in NYC.
Can I crash on your couch, man? I only got in to MW Boston last time because the guy going with my boss had to cancel, but couldn't cancel in time for my boss to book a single room at the hotel.
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According to the Herald, Macworld is scheduled for two weeks after the opening of the convention center. Given Boston's track record with large state funded construction projects, what do you think the actual chances are that the center will be completed within two weeks of their deadline? :)
Being a resident of Boston (JP to be exact), worries over the Big Dig are too exaggerated. Even if the Big Dig is incomplete, I doubt this will matter much. As long as you aren't driving, which you would be crazy to do with or without the Dig, the T is easy to use and convenient. Additionally, most hotels in Boston are near the proposed convention center or within walking distance. Boston is easy to walk and is relatively small in terms of surface area. Even if you get lost or confused, the Big Dig and Boston's inherent quirky layout make it interesting and Bostonians love to talk about their city and are more than happy to guide the lost Mac user through the Big Dig. Granted, there may not be the penetration of Apple in Boston in the graphics community as was suggeted of NYC. However, Boston is an educational and research center, another large segment of Apple's user base. I think Boston is a great choice.
Just have one more conference. SF in Jan, NYC in May and Boston in Sept. That way I can travel to all cities as a business write off (à la Kramer/Seinfeld).
I'm looking forward to this Jan in SF. Maybe there will be some G5's? NOT!!!
So they could get Matt Damon and Ben Affleck in thier comercials.
I am not too bothered by this at all. I never attended Macworld when it was in New York, I am certainly not going to attend the ones in Boston. It just seems to me that the east coast Macworlds were starting to bring nothing but controversy, what with .Mac, the $129 upgrade for Jaguar and so forth. Macworld was getting weak. But I have to counter some points that were brought up.
1) Someone said that Boston has a large segment of educational users. While I do not dispute that, New York also has a very large educational market. Columbia University, New York University, St Johns, Fordham, Hofstra, The Cooper Union, Pratt Institute, Parsons School of Design, The New School, The CUNYs and so forth, plus the largest public school system in the country. However, the point is moot because Macworld takes place in July, which is usually when schools are out of their main sessions. Even though many students still stay, it wont be as many as there are during the Fall and Spring semesters.
2) True, public transportation around the airports is pretty bad. However, Airtrain which will connect JFK to the Jamaica terminal is nearing completion. That would give you a free ride to a huge transit hub that features the Long Island Rail Road and numerous subway lines. The LIRR pulls right into Penn Station, which is then a quick taxi ride to the Javits Center. That cab fare should not be more than $4. If it is, you are getting ripped off.
3) I just want to know exactly how the convention center is going to make money on this if they are offering free rent? I dont blame IDG for taking that offer, anyone would take that offer.
The entire Advertising/Marketing world runs mostly on Macs, and 99% of the big players are based in New York. As has been pointed out, the education market is huge, too.
I've been to MW Boston, it was ok, but if you want to have some fun after looking at all the pretty hardware and icons, there's not much there. Boston is to New York what Staten Island is to Manhattan. I asked a friend to show me the infamous "combat zone". It was three or four joints on a single block. You could get into more trouble at a nursing home.
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Apple laptops are effectively unusable for unix users.
I am a long-time Unix user. That means I need to have the Ctrl key to the left of the A key. This is a genuine need, not merely a want; it is based upon ergonomics. The Ctrl key is heavily used in unix, and it must be easily accessable. It cannot be off in the lower left corner of the keyboard where it is difficult to get at, and where it distorts the position of your left hand such that you can't easily type other keys while holding the Ctrl key down.
Apple desktop keyboards are now all USB. They are all OK. The CapsLock key can be re-mapped into a Ctrl key.
Unfortunately, even in this modern age, all Apple laptops have built-in ADB keyboards. The ADB keyboard is broken-by-design. It is, in general, not possible to remap the CapsLock key into a Ctrl key.
There are some exceptions, but they are horrible kludges. They are horrible kludges because the original design of the ADB keyboard was a horrible kludge. The correct solution would be for Apple to re-design their laptop motherboards to use built-in USB keyboards. This hasn't happened yet. If you run Linux, use Debian's solution. For Mac OS X users, uControl works. There are no solutions (that I know of) for either NetBSD or OpenBSD. Please note once again that the "solutions" above are in fact kludges, because of the original bad design of the ADB keyboard.
Apple is (currently) ignoring Unix users! This is not merely speculation on my part. In an on-going email exchange I am having with an Apple employee (whom I won't name) in their marketing department, the Apple marketing person directly stated to me that Apple was catering to their historic Mac customers, and is purposely ignoring the Unix market. He also claimed that Apple would soon start paying more attention to the Unix market. I won't hold my breath. Apple has been ignoring Unix users for more than 12 years. I expect that trend to continue. (Also note that my Apple contact indicated that Macs would never ship with a 3-button mouse, even though Apple intended to port almost all X-window software and deliver it either on a CD/DVD or installed directly on each Mac's hard drive. How Unix friendly is a 1-button mouse with X programs that often require 3 buttons?)
Apple has now lost two opportunities to sell me hardware. I really wanted an Apple laptop for their superior battery life, and for the PowerPC with Altivec CPU. (The Altivec is vastly superior to the x86 line for DSP.) Because I can't live with the broken-by-design built-in ADB keyboard in all Apple laptops, Sony and IBM sold me laptops instead. If Apple fixes this problem, they will sell me a PowerBook next year; if they don't, I'll still be running OpenBSD on x86 hardware, and wishing I could use a Mac.
In other news, the earth rotates through a simultaneous four day CUBE! CUBISM is TRUTH - NON-CUBIC is a FALSITUDE. The educational establishment has been flattened to TWO DIMENSIONAL NON-CUBIC LIES! They have missed the opportunity to CUBIFY VERIFY and CRAZIFY
Oh pish, it was cleaned out by mayor white in the early 80s. Ah, how I miss sullivan square in the 20s - the debauchery, the wildness. And liquor, often served in the open!
Boston is not set up to run these large conventions.
The fact that the number of cabs have been fixed since, what, 1932? and the second-rate town fueds between cabbies from Boston or Cambridge not being allowed to pick up fares in the other town just means that it's difficult to attend conferences there and get around.
Can I say how impressed I am about the T stopping at 12:30AM? (esp when bars are open until a raging 1AM - almost like a real city).
That might have changed, but I worked in clubs for years. Had to park at 2PM, go home or out and do my day. When I got out of work at 3AM, well, cabs are hard to find. The T is stopped (don't drink and drive, but we'll stop transit before the bars).
I hate the yankees as much as any good bostonian, but at least I can drink until 5AM if I want and hop on a subway to about anywhere any time of the night. Or get in one of billion taxis.
Javitts is inconvenient, and it sucks, but at least you don't need to have your show in TWO places with busses. At least its 4 hours drive from about 20% of the population. (DC, Philly, Boston &c).
Let's go to boston when the decide to become a real business town and perhaps when the roads and routes are consistent one week to the next.
Unfortunately, it looks like a recent accident will delay the Airtrain project.
Having it in New York was great. I could get up early, drive up from Philadelphia to Princeton (only takes 25 minutes at 3am), hop on the first NJT train into NYC, get there in time to get a good seat for the keynote, wander around all day, and come home to sleep in my own bed. I scheduled my summer vacation around it, and it made for a pleasant way to spend one of those days off.
I went to Boston for MacWorld in '95, and it sucked. I won't be going back. Traffic in Boston was horrendous then, and even if Boston is okay once they finish the Big Dig, driving up there still means going through the mess around the New York area. As for flying, no matter how cheap flights are, the airlines can't beat round-trip train fare on NJT. And the final nail in the coffin, there's not much to do in Boston-- I'm not going to blow multiple vacation days in a boring city!
You said it all brutha. Now that shit is too far for a daytrip from Philly, DC, or Baltimore.
What's the difference. I say let's have a Macworld Expo in Des Moines, the City of Certainties!
...hello, is this thing on? ; )
Come on, if it's good enough for Gnomedex, it's good enough for Macworld, right?
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