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GameToo Much...... And Die!

A 24-year-old South Korean man died after playing computer games nonstop for 86 hours, police said yesterday. The jobless man, identified by police only by his last name Kim, was found dead at an Internet cafe in Kwangju, 260 kilometres southwest of Seoul, they said. Quoting witnesses, police detective Oh Myong-sik in Kwangju said the man had been virtually glued to the computer since late last Friday and had no decent sleep and meals. The man collapsed in front of the counter early yesterday but soon regained consciousness. He then went to the toilet where he later was found dead, the police officer said. Initial investigation ruled out the possibility of murder, police said. An autopsy was planned. Source Article can be found in The Sydney Morning Herald In related gaming news: sam_handelman writes "In an article on the front page of the online edition, (free reg required) the new york times takes a rather negative look at the rise of broadband gaming in South Korea. The author, Howard W French, is a Times staff writer, with a background in staggering human tragedy, which may help to explain why he thinks my hobby is an epidemic. There was a wired article about Korean broadband (summary: they have lots), which we already discussed."

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  1. In other news... by JanusFury · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A man recently died after drinking 15 gallons of beer.

    Too much of anything is never good... don't people ever learn? First we had that guy who committed suicide after he played way too much EverQuest and spiraled into depression, and now this.

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    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It doesn't matter man, this is how it starts. I watched this all go down with GHB. First they find some poster children that die from the thing they want to ban (nevermind that the people were acting incredibly irresponsibly, and in the case of GHB, and Samantha Reid, probably never even took GHB.)

      Then they put up tons of propaganda web sites, and sell politicians on this evil thing, even though the politicians have no clue about the real facts, only what they have been told by the "anti"'s. End result: Safer replacement for alcohol and antidepressants with less side effects gets banned.

      This all started when people stopped taking responsibility for their own actions, and started asking the government to protect them from themselves. To all you liberals, grow up and start taking responsibility for your life, and make others take responsibility for theirs.

    2. Re:In other news... by rat7307 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      too much anything is too much

      That's why it's called "Too Much"

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    3. Re:In other news... by danox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Too much love can be stifling. Too much happinines can make you ungaurded and easy to hurt. too much clean air can lead to hyperventilation. too much good food can lead to obesity. too much good music can lead to deafness.

      moral to the story: any positive can become a negative if you try hard enough.

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    4. Re:In other news... by douglas+jeffries · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How 'bout love, happiness, clean air, good food, good music?

      it's clear (as you hinted) that you could have too much food (e.g. eating more than your previous body mass)

      i'd say too much air could happen, clean or not. you're lungs certainly have a maximum safe volume. and thinking globally, it's possible to have enough clean air, just not at all likely to happen.

      would you say it's too much good music if you hear it every second of every day? some people may like that, but i enjoy quiet from time to time.

      i certainly agree about love and happiness though.

    5. Re:In other news... by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Too much love can be stifling. Too much happinines can make you ungaurded and easy to hurt.

      I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.

      too much clean air can lead to hyperventilation.

      Breathing too quickly, maybe, which is something different.

      too much good food can lead to obesity.

      Sure, depending on your metabolism.

      too much good music can lead to deafness.

      No, that's volume.

      moral to the story: any positive can become a negative if you try hard enough.

      Why do you have to try? That's exactly the point.

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    6. Re:In other news... by IdahoEv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To all you liberals, grow up and start taking responsibility for your life, and make others take responsibility for theirs.

      Self-responsibility is not a liberal vs. conservative issue; it is better characterized as an authoritarian vs. libertarian issue.

      Liberals with an authoritarian bent would have the government outlaw "dangerous" things like offensive/hateful/politically incorrect language, games that "promote" racism, etc. Conservatives with an authoritarian bent would outlaw "dangerous" things like homosexuality, games that "promote" immorality or drug use, violence and sexuality on television, etc.

      OTOH, someone with libertarian tendencies, whether they were otherwise conservative or liberal, would prefer the government stay out of people's lives. I.E., a libertarian believes people should take responsibility for themselves. They wouldn't outlaw "unsafe" games.

      You bring up drugs, GHB in particular, and complain that the government prohibits "safer replacements for alcohol and antidepressants". Ignoring for the moment any debate over the merits of that particular drug, those who would prefer legalized drugs of any sort are strongly libertarian. Many are liberal, as well.

      Those who "ask the government to protect them from themselves" aren't "liberal". They're authoritarian, and include just as many conservatives as liberals.

      I'm actually quite surprised to see you blaming the outlawing of GHB on liberals- the most vocal proponents of harsh drug laws, generally, are conservative authoritarians.

      You, it seems, do not really know who your enemies are. I consider myself quite liberal, but I agree with you that people should take more responsibility for themselves.

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    7. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Governor Bush's daughter most certainly is getting special treatment. She has been sent to a live in rehab facility (this is quite different from the live in facility Gov. Bush supports most offenders going to). Further the software company, that no doubt hired her because of her father, says she still has a job when after she gets through treatment.

      You shouldn't accuse someone of not doing there homework when you really just disagree with them.

    8. Re:In other news... by cyronix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Too much" it self puts a negative meaning on everything. Each of your sentences can be generalized to "Too much is bad", and that phrase is redundant in itself, because too much is always bad.

    9. Re:In other news... by hesiod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What does liberal mean, if it doesn't mean the government doing things for you? Isn't that not taking responsibility? My impression is that liberals are like slightly more democratic socialists. I'm not insulting you for your choice, mind you... I'm just as right for being conservative (libertarian) as you are for being liberal.

    10. Re:In other news... by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Too much love can be stifling. Too much happinines can make you ungaurded and easy to hurt.

      I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.

      No, he's right; think "spoiled child". Their parents love them *so* much that any thought of *possibly* hurting them goes right out the window, and any idea of discipline goes right with it. If you don't believe me, walk around in a supermarket for awhile, and observe the parents that are *begging* their kids to behave. Do you really think that a deeply ingrained response to tell figures of authority to go stuff themselves is going to be beneficial later in life?

      "Screw you boss, I'm not doing that because I don't wanna," isn't the best way to keep a job.

      Easily hurt can be seen in children that have had their self-esteem falsely reinforced. By only giving positive feedback, you spare a child temporary emotional pain and possible and/or perceived humiliation in front of their peers. The problem with this is that they come to expect it, which leads to a disassociation from reality -- the child expects to live in a wonderful, happy bubble, and whenever that bubble is threatened by an external entity (failing a test, rejection by a love-interest, etc.), they will lash out, often violently.

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  2. yeah great journalism here by GoatPigSheep · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It must have been the games that did it!

    Force anyone to sit in one place for 86 hours without sleep, food, or water, and I'm sure at least SOME of them would die.

    But I'm sure it was the GAMES that killed him.

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  3. Discrediting Violence by thenovacrisis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now they can't blame video games for increasing violent emotions and actions. How are you going to be violent to someone if you can't pull yourself away from the computer long enough to eat.

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  4. I'm sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm REALLY sure this guy's family would love to read your humor. Especially since the guy, well, DIED.

  5. Proof! by x136 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That video games are a bad habit and can kill you!

    Wait, no, it's just proof that being a dumbass can kill you. Never mind, carry on.

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  6. Re:Boots by WeaponOfChoice · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pretty sure the geek way of dying involves electrocution, or maybe immolation (provided it's an electrical fire I guess).
    Now if he'd died at the keyboard that'd be a different matter...

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  7. WTF? by SamMichaels · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What does this have to do with gaming? If I sat infront of a TV, computer, or alone counting bumps in paint for 86 hours straight, the same thing would happen to me.

    Another lame attempt to take a stab at videogames and how EVIL they are...

    1. Re:WTF? by evilviper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What other hobbies do you know of where the person is compelled to sit still in one place for long hours at a time?

      At least TV has commercials, and the shows change regularly, giving you something that marks the time...

      Not to say that video games are evil, but it might be good to have some message pop-up after someone's been playing for 8 hours straight that says "Hey d00d. Take a walk. It'll be here when you come back."

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    2. Re:WTF? by gnovos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What other hobbies do you know of where the person is compelled to sit still in one place for long hours at a time?

      Reading

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  8. Re:Let it be known... by ender81b · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not that I don't believe you but you should include some links/citations before making a statement like that (I know, crazy talk). I could only find the following:

    Shanghai Cybrcafe Shut Down

  9. Nobody noticed? by sssmashy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The real story here is not how this man died, but where he died. This man was in an internet cafe, surrounded by other people.

    People die like this more often than we realize. We don't notice because they they die as shut-ins at home. Most of them are obsessive compulsive or mentally ill, and usually takes a while before their bodies are even discovered.

    This man, however, had been playing computer games in a busy public place, nonstop for 86 hours. If any of the staff or fellow users noticed, none of them saw fit to intervene. Since he was paying to use the computer, the staff must have had some idea how long he had been there. Also, I imagine he must have looked quite haggard and ill before he finally died.

    The police have ruled out murder, but I hope that they investigate the staff for negligence. Mr. Kim was ultimately the victim of his own actions. However, the staff had a basic responsibility to ensure his health and safety while he was on using their service on their premises, just as a bartender might be liable if he continue to serve an extremely intoxicated customer who later died of alcohol poisoning.

    The fact that no-one noticed or cared for four straight days is appalling. Such a pathetic and easily preventable death in a public place reflects poorly on South Korean society, both in and anywhere else that it occurs.

    1. Re:Nobody noticed? by D4rkm1lk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a nice theory that the staff should have done something, but how would they have noticed how long he had been there- even an extremely hard working staff member would not have been there for more than a quarter of this time continuously!

      By the sounds of these places it would be quite common for staff to see the same people each day, with no idea as to whether they'd been anywhere else in between.

  10. Urban Myth by Cirrius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, I have heard other stories similiar to this recently...sometimes there is a specific name of the game, but they always seem to be "identified only by their first/last name", and its always around the 80 hour mark. Did the Sydney Morning Herald report a growing urban myth, or is there anything to substantiate this?

  11. Wow. by The+Innocent+Dot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Browsing at threshold +3, 37 comments into the discussion so far, and... I can't spot a single sympathetic comment. Most of us are all laughing at this guy's death in some kind of cynical Darwinistic smugness.

    The games probably aren't killing anyone, but they've sure done a good job of de-sensitizing a few people...

  12. This is quite sad actually by V50 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't see why everyone is acting like this is a big joke or something. The guy was unemployed, and likely depressed, and he spent the last 86 hours of his life playing a pointless game, that he coudn't escape from. This isn't funny, it's very sad. That's his 24 year life gone, just like that. You don't know what he did, or who he was. Think about what his friends and family must feel like right now.

    I'll probably be modded down as a troll or something, but I don't think death is a joking matter. If someone you knew died, even in a pathetic manner like that, you would not be joking about it. I think all the jokes here are completly tasteless.

    And I do think the games are _partly_ to blame. (Note that I said partly, not completly.) Some games are very addictive, and can trap people in for hours. I've had my school mark drop because I've wasted my time on pointless games.

    Just my thoughts.

    1. Re:This is quite sad actually by V50 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every death is a tradgedy, and you should care. People not caring about others dying is why wars happen, genocides happen, and many other bad things happen. Do you think that the Maryland sniper cares about his victims or their lives, or their families? How would you like it if you were killed and no one cared, or worse, people made endless jokes about your death?

      Every death is a tradgedy, show a little respect.

    2. Re:This is quite sad actually by PaganRitual · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i think the main reason everyone is making jokes is mainly because this is yet another 'blame it on computer games' article ... 86 hours of nearly anything straight would probably kill you if you didnt have sufficient eating/sleeping breaks ... heck, 86 hours of straight sex would kill nearly anyone, but no one blames sex on all the dodgy sex related crimes around, no, they blame sex in computer game or something. whatever, all the ignorant peeps will believe it anyway, so i couldnt be arsed arguing the point anymore anyway ... ... if you are so worried/obsessed with death, then you are probably either highly relgious (its the only pasttime obsessed with what happens after you die instead of what you do with your life), or you are going thru one of those stages like most of us did when we gained some sort of self-awareness at age ~8 when we suddenly realised that we all were gonna die one day ... get over it ... come to realisation that you are just another animal like all the others that you [baseless assumption] probably look down on as inferior [/baseless assumption] and that you will die, and probably

  13. Re:You don't say.... by mindstrm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, if Korea was like the US, they probably would do that.

    But it's not like the US at all. You just made that whole thing up.

    if we hooked you up to the same experiment, you would probably do the same thing, as would many, many mammals.

    Same thing as drug addiction. Do you think people get addicted to cocaine or heroin because they are simply "stupid" or "self centered" or weak minded?

  14. Re:Heart attack (sheer speculation on my part) by DjMd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Until recently (barring drug overdose...) 26 year olds did not have heart attacks

    Two things first, why would you rule out drug overdose? 86 straight gameplaying? Can you say stimulants? I would almost bet on that being positive. And Stimulants can cause strokes, sudden arthymias, and heart attacks...

    And I wouldn't rush to heart attack as cause of death, a Pulmonary embolis can kill suddenly and anyone can get one from sitting/not moving for long times. Rhabodmyolysis can cause kidney failure, and in extreme cases shock I think...
    He could died of lots of things, almost no actually caused by video games...

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  15. Many things are sad by theLOUDroom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Death happens. Get over it. No one tied him to the computer.
    Jokes are funny. They lighten our mood and help us deal with the lousier shit in life.
    If everytime something lousy happend I couldn't joke about it, life would be even more lousy.

    I've had my grades affected by lots of things. I accept that and take responsibility for doing those things. If I forgot about all my classes and just played games all day, I would fail out of school. I wouldn't be able to work as an engineer, but then I wouldn't be a resposible enough person to make important decisions anyway.
    I don't really consider the way he died "pathetic". I think it's kinda funny and also kinda cool. It sure would beat dying of hunger or a belly wound.
    Hey, at least he died doing something he loved :)
    Joking about death doesn't mean you don't give a shit whether people live or die. Being unable to handle jokes about death, suggests that they and therefore death itself makes you uncomfortable. Death is coming for you. There's nothing you can do to stop it. If you think that's sad, ok. Just don't try and act like that puts you on some sort of moral highground. People deal with death in different ways.
    I'm not saying that death is great, just that people comfortable/uncomforable enough with the idea to joke about it, aren't necessarily uncaring, and that perhaps every death isn't tragic.

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  16. adjusting spin controls by Rild · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no,no you see most people seem to be missing the point .
    you see he quit the game and then died

    It's really quite simple quitting ( not playing ) is what killed him

    this is excellent news for sony and microsoft , once your hooked it's play or die .

  17. if you wait long enough... by g4dget · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you wait long enough, almost any event "B" will follow almost any event "A" in close succession. That doesn't mean that "A" caused "B".

  18. Re:You don't say.... by Wavemaker · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Americans work more than citizens of any other Western country, and of most other countries

    Dude, wake up. I live in Holland (probably the country with most unproductive people per square mile in the world) and I don't know anyone who has a full time job and works less than 40 hours, with 4 weeks of vacation a year. However I do know many people who work more than 50 hours a week.

    That 'work ethic' of yours is pure fantasy. The japanese work way harder than any donut-eater ever will.

  19. Apples to Oranges by theLOUDroom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on now. Some guy choosing to sit in front of a computer until he dies should not be compared to organized murder.
    The atrocities committed by both sides in the middle east are truely tragic ongoing events.
    See my other post for some enlightenment about this 'nobody has any compassion' thing.
    Tragic problems arise when religous types think that because others do not believe as they do they are sub-human, emotionless animals, etc. Look to the tradgedies in the whole Isreal/Palestine conflict for an example.
    If you really want to make the most of your life try to understand others. Try to accept that others may view life differently and that those people are not necessarily bad. Try to promote understanding instead of jumping to conlusions and judging people.
    For example: If you choose not to do all those things you listed in you post, fine. I don't consider you a lesser human being because of it. If I choose to drink and get laid, I should not be labeled an infidel. People who don't do certain things because they think it makes them a better human being don't usually brag about it. The people who brag are the ones who think not doing these things somehow makes them better than other people.
    I'm not trying to accuse you of this specfically, but your statements about abstinance from whatever don't really tie into this discussion. And your assumption that we have no compassion doesn't make you look good either.

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  20. Whats the big deal? by Ironpoint · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Geez... One guy out of 6 billion drops dead on the other side of the planet and everybody's talking about it.

    If you don't think you can just drop dead at any moment, I got news for you. You may die tomorrow.

    Theres a million ways to die, the easiest for young people would probably be asthma or choking or drugs. This article is worthless without an autopsy.

  21. The REAL Story by TheDreamDragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the most amazing thing about these stories is that people are at these internet cafes for DAYS at a time and noone notices or cares.86 hours is literally half a week.I guess the managers who run these internet cafes will happily let you wallow in your own filth as long as they get paid by the hour.

  22. I call bullshit by Dynedain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While in architecture school I did 70 hours nonstop working in studio on my project, and I haven't suffered any nahhh naaaaahhhh nhaahaha any side effects. I would have done longer if I hadn't finished my project. I know other people who did longer.

    I don't doubt that he died after a long bout of not sleeping, but I don't believe that the lack of sleep is what killed him. I'm more inclined to think a heart attack from all the caffine is what did him in.

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  23. Games should only let you play for 16 hrs per day by MR_Flaimbait · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have the solution to this problem.
    Onlines games should only let you login and be online for at most 16 hours a day. This would force you to snap out of it, and get something to eat and some sleep. This would also be pretty easy to implement, and would have prevented this tragedy.

  24. red bull? pussy. by caveat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    what is it with you people and these halfass sugar-water caffeniated drinks? double-strong black drip coffee is the One True Way, it's got loads more caffeine than sodas/energy drinks, and nothing else of any nutritional value - which lets you tailor your nutritional intake entirely through food.
    it's useful - eat complex carbs (bagels, buscuits, whatnot) in the morning to stock up on glycogen, then switch to sugars (junk food, dew) as you get more and more tired and need simpler carbs, maybe a good whack of protein midday (mmm...red meat...) to keep your muscles from self-digesting. of course, it's got so much caffeine in such a small volume of liquid i find it usually ends up dehydrating me, but that's why i keep a big nalge of plain old H20 next to my triple-size mug.
    'course if you really wanna hurt, get a 100g bottle of USP sublimed caffeine...bet you didn't know that 2grams at once makes you hallucinate (and vibrate in place, and throw up, a lot...)

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  25. Obsession by KalenDarrie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is just another case of obsession and poor judgment. The thing about obsessive personalities is that if games weren't there to obsess over, they'd just find something else and likely invent a new way to kick the bucket.

    It is a sad thing, however. And not the most comfy way to pass away.

    Especially if he didn't beat the game.

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  26. He was lucky to survive 86 hours straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Most people can't live for more than 3 days without water. Yes, a few have survived longer by not doing anything, but most at least drank dew, rainwater (if they were trapped underneath something, for example), snow, or sometimes even their own sweat. If he truely was playing (which causes water loss through even that minimal activity) 86 hours nonstop without drinking anything, that is pretty good.