Cubase SX for Mac OS X is Shipping

An anonymous reader writes "Steinberg's flagship Cubase SX is shipping now, with support for CoreAudio, CoreMidi, VST Plugin support, Rewire, and REXort.
Now only ProTools and Digital Performer are left on the Mac OS 9 side. When do they follow?" Well, ProTools for Mac OS X has already been announced.

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Complex tools better?

[lute3]

I did some of my best audio editing with 5 - 10 instances of Sound Recorder open while copying/pasting/recording over and over until I got the results I wanted. This kept the entire process mental instead of getting lost in mulit-track timelines.

Is there a Sound Recorder equivalent for OSX (other than Quicktime)?

Re:Complex tools better?

[usr122122121]

Is there a Sound Recorder equivalent for OSX?

While I'm not familiar with Sound Recorder, I have to recommend Felt Tip Sound Studio. It is an amazingly simple and powerful audio tool that I think would fit your needs nicely.

Re:Complex tools better?

[DavidRavenMoon]

Sound Studio is very nice. You can also get SparkME, which is free.

Re:Complex tools better?

[DavidRavenMoon]

I did some of my best audio editing with 5 - 10 instances of Sound Recorder open while copying/pasting/recording over and over until I got the results I wanted. This kept the entire process mental instead of getting lost in mulit-track timelines.

That's fine if you just want to mix some audio tracks together. Cubase is not meant to be an audio editor. But for complex songs that wouldn't work well.

I use Cubase VST/32. I use VST instruments for drum tracks, and keys, record all the guitar and bass tracks, usually as segments, sort of like working with a drum machine.

This makes arraigning the song quite easy! Also Cubase has all kinds of effect plug-ins, etc.,

I still use an external editor most of the time (either PeakDV or SparkME when in OS X) for loops and stuff.

I've been waiting for this upgrade, it will be nice to not have to boot into OS 9.2 to work on music. :)

Re:Complex tools better?

[woggo]

Try audacity. http://audacity.sf.net

Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately

[tm2b]

(I'm planning to buy 10.3, which I expect to be another full-price upgrade announced at MacWorld next spring.)

I'm afraid you're setting yourself up for another substantial period of frustration,then. 10.3 will almost certainly be a free (or $19.95 for the media distribution, depending how you get it) upgrade for 10.2 owners, just as 10.1 was from 10.0.

Then 10.4 (or 11.0) will come out, and that will be another full-pay upgrade and you'll have another period of time where you'll be frustrated. At least, that's would be most consistent with Apple's release schedule so far.

I'd advise biting the bullet and getting in synch with Apple... you'll be less frustrated in the end, IMO. Fighting Steve is a lost cause... Steve gets what Steve wants.

DP for OS X announced months ago

[Anonymous Coward]

http://www.motu.com/english/other/press/dp_osx/dp_ osx.pdf

I forgot my passwd, it's been so long since I posted. Anyways, they've had it running for a while, I think they're still working on hardware drivers (all of their midi and audio drivers for X are still listed as BETA, I think).

-FreqUnkn

Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately

[Twirlip of the Mists]

I think you're extrapolating from a sample set that's too small to support your conclusions.

If you look at the real guts of 10.1 versus the real guts of 10.2, you'll see that 10.2 was a substantial feature upgrade. Lots of new stuff came with 10.2, while 10.1 was mostly a performance upgrade with a few new features. If you ever used 10.0, you'll agree, I imagine, that a performance upgrade was really welcome when 10.1 came out.

But Mac OS X is not Linux; they don't use an odd-number, even-number release gimmick. They have never used such a gimmick. Some releases are minor feature releases and are available for free or only a little cost. Some releases are major ones for which Apple charges a reasonable, not nontrivial, fee.

So when you say, "10.3 will almost certainly be a free... upgrade..." I really think you're kind of talking out of your ear. No offense.

And the thing about "Steve gets what Steve wants?" What's that all about? Are you just grumpy today, or is it your usual thing?

Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately

[derch]

I'm pulling much of this from memory of the flames over the 10.2 upgrade price. I'm relatively new to the Mac world (since Jan '02) so I can't speak from personal experience.

Many people pointed out that:

- 10.0 was a full price product.
- 10.1 was a free upgrade ($20 for shipping) to 10.0
- 10.2 was a full price product.

They pointed out that Apple has a history of charging for every other point one upgrade. They speculated 10.3 would follow the pattern and be a free upgrade. Of course the question is, do you have to have 10.2 installed for the upgrade version to work?

As a user of 10.2, it's worth it. It's smoother, faster. Quartz Extreme greatly lessened the load on my TiBook. The anti-spam support in Mail is easily worth $40 (119 messages filtered in the past four days). Other updates and additions to Terminal, Finder, and the OS in general quickly make up for the other $90.

Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately

[Mononoke]

Since I'm not going to pay $130 for a point upgrade to OS X that was announced a couple of months after I bought 10.1,

So, if they had designated it 11.0 for the same exact amount of improvement and feature set, you would buy it?

To me, it's what's inside that matters, not what they choose to call it.

Sorry you were so late to the OSX game to begin with.

No no no no!

[Triv]

Now only ProTools and Digital Performer are left on the Mac OS 9 side

[rant] Am I the only composer on the face of the planet who wants Finale to be ported to OS X? It's an industry standard for producing professional-quality scores. Their website says "Runs under classic mode," which I translate into "too much hassle to port." But there's a 2003 version. ARGH. [/rant]

Triv

Re:No no no no!

[Coy0t3]

FWIW, I recently picked up a copy of Sibelius2 for OSX and I'm fairly happy with that. You might want to check it out. Information here

Re:No no no no!

[littlerubberfeet]

I have much prefered sibelius. the interface is far easier. It is like comparing Maya and Lightwave

Re:No no no no!

[usr122122121]

I waited for almost a year for Coda to at least post a notice as to when they were going to port Finale to OS X. They eventually said "Finale 2003." When I heard that the 2003 version was still not OS X compatible, I went and bought Sibelius.

As it turns out, Sibelius, which I avoided for almost a year, is a FAR better program. It, like all pro apps, takes some getting used to, but it is a very powerful app.

Digital Preformer Release

[Majestik]

Actually Digital Performer has a press release ages ago about the Max OS X version that's coming. It should be released before year end.

Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately

[DavidRavenMoon]

Since I'm not going to pay $130 for a point upgrade to OS X that was announced a couple of months after I bought 10.1, it looks like I don't get a Cubase upgrade for another year or so.

The reason Cubase needs 10.2 is because Core Audio was not finished when 10.1 was released.

So you might as well get Jaguar now, which runs great BTW. The next upgrade (10.2.5?) should be free.

Also, 10.2 is not a "point" upgrade, you are basing this on your own idea of how Apple should name OS releases, and not their idea. When the seond number changes, it's a major update. 10.2.1 is a point release, as will be the next few updates.

Roxio Toast

[foo12]

Roxio Toast comes bundled with an app called CD Spin Doctor --- it does exactly what you want:

Do you still have old cassette tapes or vinyl LPs? Use CD Spin Doctor, included with Toast 5 Titanium, to turn those scratchy records or cassette tapes into high fidelity CDs. Here are just a few CD Spin Doctor features:

• Records from any analog source (phonograph, tape, or microphone)
• Special sound filters eliminate noise, pops, hisses, and clicks
• Enhancement filters convert mono to stereo and boost Bass or Treble
• Wave form display with zoom in and zoom out capabilities