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Speex Joins Xiph To Bring Free VOIP To The Masses

xercist writes "Xiph.org has added a new project to their plate of goodies- Speex. Speex is an audio codec specifically for, you guessed it, voice. It has integration with Xiph's OGG container, but is mainly being used right now for VOIP. There is currently an XMMS plugin available, and is also supported by LinPhone, OpenH323, and GnomeMeeting. Asterisk PBX is working on adding support. This is not a new project -- Jean-Marc Valin has been hard at work writing the codec for quite a while now. However, Jean-Marc is now a full-fledged member or the Xiph.org team, and in celebration, Speex beta one is being released. Xiph.org has brought you (or is currently working on bringing you) Vorbis, Tremor, Theora, Tarkin, Icecast2, cdparanoia, now Speex, and, of course, the Moaning Goat Meter. This is a LOT to do, so please donate to show your support."

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  1. "To the masses"? by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to discourage, but it won't really matter to the masses until there's a native, easy-to-use Windows client.

    - A.P.

    --
    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
    1. Re:"To the masses"? by CondeZer0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It matters to me, and I couldn't care less about the masses or ease of use. I
      care about something that works for me, and that is free of patents and other
      traps.

      I'm sick of people that think that "masses" are all that matters, if that was
      the case we would be all running Windows, listening to boys/girls bands,
      looking TV, drinking coca-cola and living in a big city.

      Whatever the masses do, OGG is one of the most important projects out there to
      protect my freedom of using a hight quality audio format, if you don't like it,
      unlike with some other "DRM enabled" formats, you wont be obligated to use it
      any time soon.

      For all that I care you and all your masses can go use WMA and all it's DRM
      trash, browsing AOL, listening Britney(sp?), going to the cinema to see (checks
      warnerbros.com) Harry Potter, running Windows XP on your palladium enabled
      Pentium 5 and living in NewYork.

      I will continue using ogg, browsing the web with Mozilla, listening to
      Einsturzende Neubauten and Chopin(two examples of things I have been listening
      to today), looking Clockwork Orange, Cube and Totoro, running FreeBSD on my AMD
      Duron, and Plan9 in my old broken Thinkpad; and living in some lost place in
      the North of Sweden.

      Hope you are happy living your prefabricated life in your plastic world. Hurry
      or you are going to miss your daily brainwashing 4 hour sesion of TV. And don't
      forget to stay well away from any book, you may learn something from them!

      *sigh*

      \\Uriel

      --
      "When in doubt, use brute force." Ken Thompson
    2. Re:"To the masses"? by jmv · · Score: 5, Informative

      (I am the Speex author) There are already at least two Windows front-ends: here and here. There may be others I'm not aware of. Note that I haven't developed of tested any of these since I don't use Windows.

  2. Re:But... by PinkX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    does *costs* means anything to you? Seriously, long distance calls can be very expensive, even more for people who must make them frequently (think foreign students, etc). Having the voice calls being transported over TCP/IP, using an already proven technology which covers almost the whole globe (and to some extent outside of it) reduces these costs to nearly 0, except for the VoIP hardware (gateways and such) needed, now think of the advantages to be able to do phone calls from your linux box using *free* software to anywhere in the world, for just the cost of your net link, which most of the time is flat-rated.

  3. Speex sounds nice by deathcubek · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been playing around with speex when i was working on an audio conferencing. It's a simple api, and the audio quality comes out okay for voice too. (unless you try sending music through, then it really just craps out)

    If only I could get the windows side of the cross-platform audio caputre stuff so nice.

    --

    New worlds are not born in the vacuum of abstract
    ideas, but in the fight for daily bread
    --Rudolf Rocke
    1. Re:Speex sounds nice by jmv · · Score: 4, Informative

      Probably something you've done. For normal use, it's between 5% and 30% on my PIII/1GHz, depending on the sampling rate (8kHz or 16 kHz, only mono supported) and the bit-rate. The encoder also has a "complexity" option similar to the -1 to -9 options in gzip.

  4. Re:But... by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because my telco company charges me 5c/min for calling a city I can SEE from my backyard on a clear day.

    --

    Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

  5. Re:But... by Quirk · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's late and I'm too stoned to be posting but isn't the migration of every electronic form of communication a good thang? Then comes mythical intuitive GUIs, and finally integration in cross-realtional dbs.

    --
    "Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
    Cohen
  6. Here's my first donation by Gizzmonic · · Score: 4, Funny
    it's some advice:

    Get some better names for your projects! If a 12 year old is embarrassed to say "OGG Tarkin" aloud, then you're not going to sell it outside of the hardcore open source geek community. And I know, you're not trying to make money, but I'm betting you'd even win some mindshare if you were willing to, say:

    1. Give the "OGG" media layer a little class. Call it something the boys in marketing would like, such as "SimpleDirectQuickWebLayer."
    2. Vorbis could be known as "I Can't Believe it's not MP3!" and if you still wanted to use a geeky name, just refer to the acronym, ICBITNMP3, pronounced as "Ich-Bittin-emm pee 3."

    I'm hoping someone else will be kind enough to hire a professional web designer for Xiph, and maybe even a domain name that people could pronounce or remember. Dig deep, folks. I know it's a recession, but every little bit helps.

    --
    (-1, Raw and Uncut is the only way to read)
  7. Re:But... by lpontiac · · Score: 5, Informative
    Why does everyone insist we need to do absoultely everything over TCP/IP?

    Voice over IP doesn't send voice data over TCP, it uses UDP. UDP isn't complicated at all - it just gives you a way to uniquely identify a machine and say "send this data to it." It doesn't even guarantee delivery of the data. It's probably the best, most accepted way of sending addressed, digital data over wires.

    Now, imagine you're a company that's just put an office up. Would you rather install two sets of wires to each desk (ethernet and phone network), one of which requires you to get a licensed contractor in if you need work done on it? Or a single set of wires which can be maintained by the people who run your computers?

  8. Re:But... by cerenyx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I'm not wrong (and I may be), reliability is still an issue with VoIP: and taking the hypothetical company -- the question is whether, taking long-distance conference calls and otherwise using the telephone lines extensively for critical purposes, the company would feel more "secure" using the tried and tested analog telephone lines, as opposed to VoIP.

  9. Re:voice codecs by grahamsz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes!

    Generally voice is sampled at 8kHz because it generally ranges from around 200Hz to 4kHz and Nyquiest suggests we need a digital sampling rate of twice the highest frequency.

    The reason music sounds crappy is that in a well designed system you will loose all the audio components above 4kHz, and in a badly designed system they will manifest themselves as other lower frequencies.

    Now this *does not* mean that this codec is a bad codec - merely that's it's one optimised for a specific task.

  10. Speex and TAPR by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Informative

    I love the fact that a good, Free Software voice codec is out there, and here are my reasons:

    1) Ham Radio. The Tucson Amateur Packet Radio organization is working on experimental digitized voice over amateur radio applications, and a couple of venders (mostly Kenwood) are offering radios that have this ability. Right now, TAPR are looking at using DVSI's IMBE vocoder, which is QUITE expensive and VERY not-Free. The availability of a Free codec would greatly improve the availabilty of this protocol.
    2) Currently, The Association of Public-Safety Officials (APCO) (the folks who define the specs for the radios used by police, fire, and government) have defined the current digital trunked radio standard, APCO Project 25 as using DVSI's IMBE vocoder. While this is licensed under a Reasonable And Non-Discrimitory license, if you want to license the IMBE vocoder for a P-25 project, you will cough up US$100,000.00 for the privilege (I know firsthand, as the company I work for has done this). Uniden, Radio Shack, and other scanner companies are looking into putting this into their scanners, so they have had to cough it up as well. A Free vocoder would allow anybody to build a product with this capability in it - you could even use a scanner and your sound card to decode the Phase 1 C4FM format signals.

    Like so many other things, a Free Software tool to do these things would greatly accelerate the industry. I hope Xiph does well.