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Lucky Green vs. Palladium

CodeTrap writes "Wired has an interesting story "Can a Hacker Outfox Microsoft" on a fellow named Lucky Green that is attempting to force the issue surrounding MS's Palladium Gambit using a very creative method involving patents. If his patents are granted, MS will be unable to use Palladium to enforce software licensing. If MS challenges his patent, then we all know thier true intentions. Very clever indeed."

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  1. Money talks by Qrlx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Doesn't the fact that the guy's name is Lucky Green sort of tip you off that he's playing Patent Lottery?

    Microsoft will make him An Offer He Can't Refuse, and they will buy his patent (if they even need to.)

    1. Re:Money talks by nebenfun · · Score: 5, Funny

      he's going to need a name like
      "Lucky 4-leaf Clover Horseshoe Green"
      in order to defeat Microsoft.
      poor, poor bastard
      nbfn

  2. Reputation? by GypC · · Score: 5, Funny

    "He thinks that a challenge by Microsoft to his patents is unlikely: It would discredit Biddle and damage the company's reputation for truthfulness..."

    Hmmm... I didn't realize there was one to be damaged.

  3. Yeah right.. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Bill G. Hey 'Lucky', can I license your patented process?
    Lucky Pound sand Gates, I 0wn j00!
    Bill G. Here's 100 million dollars.
    Lucky I'm your b1tch.

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    1. Re:Yeah right.. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

      for 100 million dollars, i'd sell out :(

      I wouldn't sell out, even if you tempted me with the tastiest sub in the world and wash it down with the best damn beer in the world then handed me the keys to the nice car you delivered it all in.

      on second thought...

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    2. Re:Yeah right.. by operagost · · Score: 4, Funny

      What if the Subway sub came with LETTUCE?

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  4. Re:Follow the money... by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    He should exclusively license it to Larry Ellison...

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  5. Buy him out by goldspider · · Score: 4, Funny

    As seen on The Simpsons , all Bill Gates has to do is "buy him out".

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  6. Maybe its just me.... by LordYUK · · Score: 5, Funny

    But "lucky green" sounds like a cleaning agent and "palladium" sounds like some moldly crap growing on my sink... so "lucky green" vs "palladium" sounds like some commerical where a frustrated house wife is tired of scrubbing, so she sprays on the cleaner and voila, its brand spanking new...

    then again, maybe its just me...

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  7. Speaking of buying governments... by Corvaith · · Score: 5, Funny

    That makes me wonder. Why hasn't MS gotten around to buying themselves a small country yet? (Or, possibly, just buying an island and delcaring sovereignity, which might make them one of the first to do that and become actually recognized, as far as I know...) You'd think it'd be easier for them. They could just make up their own laws. (Open Source is illegal! Everyone must upgrade every product they own as soon as the next one comes out! )

  8. Using patents to stop other Microsoft problems by TyZone · · Score: 5, Funny
    Lucky Green is on to something! I could apply for a patent on, say, techniques for using overwhelming dominance of the software marketplace to enforce monopolistic practices, and then force Microsoft to stop ...

    Nope. Wouldn't work. Microsoft can demonstrate prior art.

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  9. Re:5. abuse patent system by verloren · · Score: 4, Funny
    Of course, there is the "fight fire with fire" course of logic

    Well, I guess we could try patenting that, but I'm pretty sure people will stick with using water or foam. And I don't think MS will care either way.

  10. Re:Follow the money... by mluton · · Score: 4, Funny

    This assumes that MS cares about what is legal and what isn't. Most likely they'll just ignore this guy and do whatever the hell they want to do anyway.

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  11. Timing doesn't really work by SiliconEntity · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lucky has a nice idea, but I don't think the timing is really going to work. Here's the problem.

    He wants to know if Microsoft is going to use Palladium for copy protection. We'd all like to know that. Well, of course, we're going to find out sooner or later, at least by the time they release Palladium, maybe around 2005. And chances are we'll find out sooner than that, because Microsoft will release specs and APIs to the developer community in order to have applications ready when the technology is released. So maybe we'll find out about 2004.

    Lucky wants to speed up this process, so he files a patent hoping that Microsoft will either challenge it, or it will turn out that they have a patent of their own. But it's likely to take a couple of years for his patent to go through. So he's not going to find out until around 2004 anyway.

    The timing doesn't really work. Waiting to see if Microsoft contests the patent won't give information for a couple of years. And by that time, chances are Microsoft will have revealed enough information about Palladium that we'll know the answer anyway.

    The one thing that isn't going to happen, I guarantee, is that Microsoft will say "Oh no! Our secret plan to use Palladium for copy protection is ruined due to Lucky Green! Curses, foiled again!" If Microsoft does plan to use Palladium like this, they'll have the patent protection in place well in advance.

  12. Re:i think by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "it's been proven time and time again that a hacker can outfox Microsoft. Look at all the copies of windows and office and other MS products out there that have product activation. There were hacks and cracks for that technology out before the software's release date."

    Heh yeah, script kiddies are executing DoS attacks with patents instead of packets.