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Patent Cases Hurting Small Businesses

smudge writes "An Information Week article states that multiple small businesses with Web presence are being sued by PanIP LLC. The claims in these patents being asserted in the lawsuits refer to 'a computerized system for selecting and ordering a variety of information, goods and services' and 'an automatic data-processing system for processing business and financial transactions between entities from remote sites.'"

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  1. deja vu by outlier · · Score: 5, Informative
    PanIP has been mentioned in slashdot before.



    It seems that the disease that is PanIP has been spreading...

  2. To file a Patent Protest... by thenextpresident · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please file a protest for patents 6,289,319 and 5,576,951

    "1901.01 Who Can Protest
    Any member of the public, including private persons, corporate entities, and government agencies, may file a protest under 37 CFR 1.291. A protest may be filed by an attorney or other representative on behalf of an unnamed principal since 37 CFR 1.291 does not require that the principal be identified."
    http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac /mpep/document s/0841.htm#sect1901.01

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  3. Well, kind of. by ubernostrum · · Score: 4, Informative
    A good friend of mine's dad works at the USPTO as a patent examiner...he's a very intelligent, well-read and well-rounded engineer. Unfortunately, due to budget constraints, when all the guys like him retire (and there arent many left even now), that's the end; they can get three or four cheap idiots fresh out of college with no experience for the salary a qualified examiner can command, and that's common practice for replacing an examiner.

    So please don't put all the blame on the patent examiners; while there are plenty of idiot examiners, a lot of this also has to do with bureaucracy's normal functioning: higher-ups trying to cut corners and save a buck.

  4. Re:Vague? - nah, just lame by wanton · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, I checked out the patents, they do use the word plurality, however :) ...

    They're retarded. Both require that the 'textual' and 'graphical' content of the site be from a 'CD-ROM' or 'optical device'. I know of very few sites that do this. Additionally, the first patent defines that the device which essentially serves contents require a device for displaying graphical content. I guess the patent doesn't take into affect that some people host their shiznit on boxes without a monitor.

    So, fear not the whores.
    (I hope the lawsuits backfire on that blasted company)

  5. Re:The whole legal system needs to be changed by canadian_right · · Score: 5, Informative
    The loser should pay the winners legal fees to prevent abuse. It works great in Canada. We also have caps on punative damages. This means there NEVER billion dollar awards for pain and suffering. You can get back whatever is required to make up whtever loss your are suing for, plus reasonable damages (the cap is around $100,000). These two simple rules make silly lawsuits very rare up her in the Great White North.

    This in no way stops the little guy from suing - when he is in the right. It makes it easier because when he wins he has NO LEGAL BILLS to worry about. Of course, if you are sure you are going to win you think twice about starting, but that is a GOOD thing.

    Big coprs still try SLAPP suits, but many jurisdictions have anti-SLAPP legislation. All in all, this system works very well, not just in Canada, but in many countires whose law is based on English Common Law.

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  6. Re:The patent office has looked stupid for years by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Informative

    I forget the technical legal term

    Writ of Mandate. aka Writ of Mandamus A court order to a government agency, including another court, to follow the law by correcting its prior actions or ceasing illegal acts.

    (BTW, IANAL, but more details can be found here in a legal dictionary)

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  7. Re:Job Requirements for patent office by ProfBooty · · Score: 4, Informative

    there are general divisions for chemical, electrical, mechianical, biotech and business methods. from there, there are breakdowns into specific technologies, such as sporting equipment, telephones, tyres etc, nearly every catergory of invention.

    At least BS is requried, for some techonolgies, more is required for education/job experience.

    the people who work at the PTO probably know far more than you do about a specific technology. The problem is you have to read how the claims are written. The claims define the actual invention. If the law firm does a good search prior to filing a patent, they can word the claims so that the examiner can't find it. Likewise after a non-final rejection, the attorney can ammend the claims to not read on the art the examiner cited.

    "Imagine if people start claiming necessary carpentry skills like 'the process of putting a a variety of small steel spikes in a piece of wood' - that'll cover hammering, screwing, etc. Or 'method of subdividing wood into smaller pieces.' - sawing."

    The article poster only quoted the preamble, not the actual invention, so the slashdot article is misleading. Likewise the passage from the above poster is inaccurate. That is called the preamble and is not the actual invention. The actual invention portion of the claim would likely read something like this:

    1) A method if inserting small steel spikes in a piece of wood, wherein said wood is composed of pine. ETC with more and more detail AFTER the preamble portion

    I'm pretty tired of slashdot people, who are entirely uneducated in the patent process, critizing a process which they don't even fully understand.

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  8. Re:25 pages? Amateurs! by jdiggans · · Score: 4, Informative

    For biotech patents on genes or proteins the USPTO requires you include a 'sequence listing' describing the sequence of the gene(s) or protein(s) you're patenting. This must be submitted in a very structured format that increases the vertical length of the submitted content by a great deal, especially for long sequences (so I imagine this 140k page application was a small app with a giant sequence listing trying to keep the claims as biologically broad as possible).

    The PTO has finally gotten wise to the act of including everything but the kitchen sink in a patent listing (as was the industry's habit a few years ago) and now charges on a per-page basis for patent submissions. This ensures that if a company files a 140k page patent, they really mean it and are willing to pay for it.

    One of the FEW good ideas out of the USPTO in a long time; let's hope there are others.
    -j