The criticisms presented there seem to essentially be criticisms that could be thrown at any charity. None of them registered as problem with the foundation itself. In some of the cases, the only solution to resolve the complaint is to lower or eliminate the amount donated.
Sorry, but those people complaining are going to complain whatever happens.
That's the thing. People look at Google Wave as the interface. The real interface is all the things they are using every day (Gmail,/. comments, Facebook, Twitter, etc) integrating into Wave.
Email is the same way. Systems integrated email, and now email is useful.
Sorry. I didn't get into too much detail because I've done it so often. Wave is a pretty big idea, so it's reasonable that it might be difficult to grasp what it can be.
I'll try. Keep in mind I'm not known for brevity.
My elevator pitch would be: Wave is a real-time content sharing system. That's the best I can come up with right now, though I think it fairly describes it.
Now, it doesn't sound impressive, but it really is, and better expressed with real world examples. This is easy.
Let's look at this threaded conversation here. If I hadn't come back here looking for any responses, I wouldn't have known you'd respond. I have to come back to/., find my post, and than dig through all the replies.
This entire commenting system can be duplicated inside a Wave. That doesn't mean comments here have to change. Rather, they are linked into Wave. How? The same way email is used currently. However, instead of using an email address, you'd use a wave address.
In fact, anywhere email is used, wave can be used as well.
Now, you're probably wondering if this is the case, why not just use email? The thing is, email only works in one direction. You email me. I email you. Wave works off the premise that communication is bidirectional. So, if/. comments were in Wave, I'd be able to use my Mozilla Thunderfox (My imagined Mozilla Wave client) to see the comments, as well as reply to/. from the client.
Of course, here is where it get's interesting. As I said, I tend to ramble quite a bit, so I'd want to bring in a friend that can better explain this to you. Maybe a bit more concise. Worded nicely, and a lot shorter. He'd do a better job, so I'd share him with the conversation in Thunderfox. He'd be able to see what the conversation is about, and add his own two cents. He'd reply to your comment. He'd also reply to mine, making some mention about how I can't shut up.
He'd also drop in the video of Google showing off Wave, just in case you missed it.
All of this would appear on/. in real time if they wanted.
Being the smart dapper guy I am, I'd steal my friends concise comment, and put it up on my blog (iDontKnowWhenToShutUp.BlogSpot.com). The blog post would let people comment. All 1 of my readers would, probably something like "Honey, don't forget the milk." Everyone subscribed to that Wave (You, my friend, me) would probably be able to see that.
This is all done in real time, on a standard base. Real time communication. Maybe a better way to think of it is IRC meets Email.
This handles a lot of the cases where developers have to create their own APIs to access the inforamtion in a system. If I want to develop an application that posts updates to various social networks, I have to learn a different API for each place. Integrating Wave into these system kinda negates that need for the content sharing side.
I'm not a Wave expert. I'm not going to pretend to know everything. But Wave's goals are big. If they are realized, it will be bigger than email. The problem is, it's so big, so ambitious, it can get rather confusing.
Hopefully I've gotten you thinking. My examples aren't perfect, but I'm sure if you sit back and think for a bit, you could see all the possibilities.
It's actually not difficult to see what it can be used with. Basically, anything you type can be a wave. Any content you create can be a wave. The problem is people see Google Wave as the product. Google Wave is just the interface. Gmail would be useless if Email wasn't as widely used as it is. The Wave protocol exists for a reason.
These comments here could all be waves. Facebook could be based on waves. Forums as well. You would still use the same interfaces as you do now, but you'd have the added benefit of a standard API to access that information, the way email works today.
Having worked in this environment before, you'd actually do better. You'd give the person their money back, and comp them something. However, people doing this all the time would be asked to leave.
People assume the Casino's are just crooks. That's not really fair. Problems can happen. If someone wins legit, fine, they get the money, and that's it. However, if something goes wrong, things are adjusted. On both sides. Yes, if a machine breaks down and ate someones money, we get the person's money back, comp them something, etc. They are then free to take that money and try again.
Just because you lose and the machine was broken doesn't mean you would have won.
So Steve got trolled. That doesn't inspire confidence. His response also shows that he felt that he had to respond, so I don't think these are minor complaints, but ones he has to fire back at. I also feel like he's getting this from other sources as well. I have to say, for him to respond so, I have to wonder how much pressure he's under. After all, what's next for Apple?
It's actually not that bad, and it doesn't take long to get into the understanding. SC2 goes a long way toward assisting with all the micro and macro elements of the old SC. Matchmaking is also pretty good. I'm horrible, and play in the Copper ladder, and I when about half my games. They are challenging and fun, and I'm slowly seeing improvement in my game. I don't feel like I'm getting rolled all the time. I can usually look back on games and say "Yup, I should have worked on building an army and not just more drones." or "I failed to properly keep tabs on my opponent and he kept tabs on me, and that let him trounce me."
At the same time, I've also learned how to keep fighting and still remember to build units back at the base.
The thing is, SC2 is gonna be around a while. So I know the number of hours I get from the game will be worth it from a dollar's spent pov. It's like TF2 in that regard. That game was well worth the price (even moreso because it was in the Orange box).
As was posted in previous comments, I also don't think the document is really anything to cry home about. The truth is, reviewing the document left me a bit more comfortable. They clearly spelled out what they did and didn't track, and I actually found out that they track less than I thought they did.
Dice are already marked. They have pips or numbers on them. Opposite sides add up to the number of sides on a dice plus 1. So if the number 1 was on the bottom, number 6 would be on top.
Granted, this works for some dice, like d6, d8, d12 and d20. d10 are odd/even, and equal out to one less then the total number of sides. So 2 and 7 are opposites.
d4s are usually easy enough, but depend on the type you get. The one I have has the number on the top, and the number doesn't appear on the bottom.
Basically, the point is, most die follow a set of rules for number placement. If you can read the bottom of the dice, you can easily tell what number is opposite of it.
You are allowed to buy from the poorest countries to reduce your cost. You make the assumption that the programmer they'd get in the US is the same as the programmer from the poorer country. This is not the case. Rather than hire Joe, they hire Bob for less. Bob is not Joe, but Bob can do about what Joe does who is more expensive, but does it better.
You have the same options. You can buy games like TF2 or Portal or HL2:EP2. They won't be the same games, but they will still be games like them (Fortress Forever assuming you already have HL2, Narbacular Drop, and any single player FPS that's out there). These games aren't the original, but they do about what the more expensive ones do.
Their is also the issue of the Thai version. First, the people buying the Thai version had to send in documentation that proved they were Thai. What ended up happening is that these people had to doctor that information up. They had to fake it. But even if this was not the case, they are still buying the Thai version. In this case, the Thai version is only playable from a set region. The North American/European version is more widely open. So while you are paying less, you are getting less. You are free to shop around and buy the NA or European version for the lowest price you can find, however. Valve does not prevent this, at all.
It does work both ways. Your comparison is messed up because you suggest that GAME is singular (their is only one game) and that PROGRAMMER is also only singular. That their is only one GAME and only one PROGRAMMER. In this case, you have only one specific GAME you want to buy. If the company wants one specific PROGRAMMER, they have to pay $$$. However, in the companies case, they elect to get another PROGRAMMER at $. In your case, you can choose that one GAME for $$$, or you can choose another GAME for $.
PHP's documentation can be searched the same way. Just type in whatever you are looking up ('php.net/ mysql query' for example) and it searches the docs for it. More importantly, this existed prior to 2004 filing date.
I should also note that the intent of the new parking meters in Montreal is not only to increase revenue (it's now more expensive, and you can't piggyback on other people's time), but also to encourage mass transit. It's now cheaper to use the metro system then to try and find a parking space downtown and pay the prices. As a resident, I really don't mind this. While I'll sometimes take the car down there for particular reasons, it's also just as easy to park near the metros and take them in.
It doesn't work that way. There is a central hub that you pay for all the parking spots on a street block. This means that when you leave your spot, their is no indication that the space still has time left on it. People parking there have to go pay as nothing tells them how long they have.
It's also the reason that $3/hour is not realistic. It's actually more.
You can't feed the meters on Montreal streets. All the signs are just that, signs for each parking space. There is a central hub that you pay for the time. When you leave, there is no indication of whether there is time left on that space, so someone else parking there has to pay.
While it's true that you need that physical proximity to elevate the relationship, the relationship can start with and grow online without proximity. Besides, if you are in a real relationship, and you really want to be with the person, making the move to be with them isn't a difficult thing to do.
We met back in 2001 on what now is FreeNode's #php channel. This past summer, we finally tied the knot. I ended up moving up to be with here (I was living in Pennsylvania at the time. She was living in Montreal). We are happily married, and have been a happy couple ever since we first started being a couple. Both of us are absolutely thrilled at the way we met. I've also developed a rather one-sided opinion that programming chat rooms are great places to pick up chicks. =)
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The criticisms presented there seem to essentially be criticisms that could be thrown at any charity. None of them registered as problem with the foundation itself. In some of the cases, the only solution to resolve the complaint is to lower or eliminate the amount donated.
Sorry, but those people complaining are going to complain whatever happens.
That's the thing. People look at Google Wave as the interface. The real interface is all the things they are using every day (Gmail, /. comments, Facebook, Twitter, etc) integrating into Wave.
Email is the same way. Systems integrated email, and now email is useful.
Sorry. I didn't get into too much detail because I've done it so often. Wave is a pretty big idea, so it's reasonable that it might be difficult to grasp what it can be.
I'll try. Keep in mind I'm not known for brevity.
My elevator pitch would be: Wave is a real-time content sharing system. That's the best I can come up with right now, though I think it fairly describes it.
Now, it doesn't sound impressive, but it really is, and better expressed with real world examples. This is easy.
Let's look at this threaded conversation here. If I hadn't come back here looking for any responses, I wouldn't have known you'd respond. I have to come back to /., find my post, and than dig through all the replies.
This entire commenting system can be duplicated inside a Wave. That doesn't mean comments here have to change. Rather, they are linked into Wave. How? The same way email is used currently. However, instead of using an email address, you'd use a wave address.
In fact, anywhere email is used, wave can be used as well.
Now, you're probably wondering if this is the case, why not just use email? The thing is, email only works in one direction. You email me. I email you. Wave works off the premise that communication is bidirectional. So, if /. comments were in Wave, I'd be able to use my Mozilla Thunderfox (My imagined Mozilla Wave client) to see the comments, as well as reply to /. from the client.
Of course, here is where it get's interesting. As I said, I tend to ramble quite a bit, so I'd want to bring in a friend that can better explain this to you. Maybe a bit more concise. Worded nicely, and a lot shorter. He'd do a better job, so I'd share him with the conversation in Thunderfox. He'd be able to see what the conversation is about, and add his own two cents. He'd reply to your comment. He'd also reply to mine, making some mention about how I can't shut up.
He'd also drop in the video of Google showing off Wave, just in case you missed it.
All of this would appear on /. in real time if they wanted.
Being the smart dapper guy I am, I'd steal my friends concise comment, and put it up on my blog (iDontKnowWhenToShutUp.BlogSpot.com). The blog post would let people comment. All 1 of my readers would, probably something like "Honey, don't forget the milk." Everyone subscribed to that Wave (You, my friend, me) would probably be able to see that.
This is all done in real time, on a standard base. Real time communication. Maybe a better way to think of it is IRC meets Email.
This handles a lot of the cases where developers have to create their own APIs to access the inforamtion in a system. If I want to develop an application that posts updates to various social networks, I have to learn a different API for each place. Integrating Wave into these system kinda negates that need for the content sharing side.
I'm not a Wave expert. I'm not going to pretend to know everything. But Wave's goals are big. If they are realized, it will be bigger than email. The problem is, it's so big, so ambitious, it can get rather confusing.
Hopefully I've gotten you thinking. My examples aren't perfect, but I'm sure if you sit back and think for a bit, you could see all the possibilities.
It's actually not difficult to see what it can be used with. Basically, anything you type can be a wave. Any content you create can be a wave. The problem is people see Google Wave as the product. Google Wave is just the interface. Gmail would be useless if Email wasn't as widely used as it is. The Wave protocol exists for a reason.
These comments here could all be waves. Facebook could be based on waves. Forums as well. You would still use the same interfaces as you do now, but you'd have the added benefit of a standard API to access that information, the way email works today.
Google Wave is Thunderbird. Wave is Email.
Having worked in this environment before, you'd actually do better. You'd give the person their money back, and comp them something. However, people doing this all the time would be asked to leave.
People assume the Casino's are just crooks. That's not really fair. Problems can happen. If someone wins legit, fine, they get the money, and that's it. However, if something goes wrong, things are adjusted. On both sides. Yes, if a machine breaks down and ate someones money, we get the person's money back, comp them something, etc. They are then free to take that money and try again.
Just because you lose and the machine was broken doesn't mean you would have won.
So Steve got trolled. That doesn't inspire confidence. His response also shows that he felt that he had to respond, so I don't think these are minor complaints, but ones he has to fire back at. I also feel like he's getting this from other sources as well. I have to say, for him to respond so, I have to wonder how much pressure he's under. After all, what's next for Apple?
It's actually not that bad, and it doesn't take long to get into the understanding. SC2 goes a long way toward assisting with all the micro and macro elements of the old SC. Matchmaking is also pretty good. I'm horrible, and play in the Copper ladder, and I when about half my games. They are challenging and fun, and I'm slowly seeing improvement in my game. I don't feel like I'm getting rolled all the time. I can usually look back on games and say "Yup, I should have worked on building an army and not just more drones." or "I failed to properly keep tabs on my opponent and he kept tabs on me, and that let him trounce me."
At the same time, I've also learned how to keep fighting and still remember to build units back at the base.
The thing is, SC2 is gonna be around a while. So I know the number of hours I get from the game will be worth it from a dollar's spent pov. It's like TF2 in that regard. That game was well worth the price (even moreso because it was in the Orange box).
As was posted in previous comments, I also don't think the document is really anything to cry home about. The truth is, reviewing the document left me a bit more comfortable. They clearly spelled out what they did and didn't track, and I actually found out that they track less than I thought they did.
Dice are already marked. They have pips or numbers on them. Opposite sides add up to the number of sides on a dice plus 1. So if the number 1 was on the bottom, number 6 would be on top.
Granted, this works for some dice, like d6, d8, d12 and d20. d10 are odd/even, and equal out to one less then the total number of sides. So 2 and 7 are opposites.
d4s are usually easy enough, but depend on the type you get. The one I have has the number on the top, and the number doesn't appear on the bottom.
Basically, the point is, most die follow a set of rules for number placement. If you can read the bottom of the dice, you can easily tell what number is opposite of it.
"Why not advertise based on what makes slackware different from the rest than taunting the software that everyone else has?"
Because the people that know Slackware already know what makes it different, and those that don't probably should stay away.
I guess the question is: Why advertise what we already know?
No. I go to msn.ca. I use msn.com for email. Doing it the way you suggests would screw things up.
"Because, frankly, that's just stupid. Less extreme measures should be tried first"
They have.
You "don't play WOW" so how can you in any way put forth suggestions when you don't even have a clue what's going on?
You are allowed to buy from the poorest countries to reduce your cost. You make the assumption that the programmer they'd get in the US is the same as the programmer from the poorer country. This is not the case. Rather than hire Joe, they hire Bob for less. Bob is not Joe, but Bob can do about what Joe does who is more expensive, but does it better.
You have the same options. You can buy games like TF2 or Portal or HL2:EP2. They won't be the same games, but they will still be games like them (Fortress Forever assuming you already have HL2, Narbacular Drop, and any single player FPS that's out there). These games aren't the original, but they do about what the more expensive ones do.
Their is also the issue of the Thai version. First, the people buying the Thai version had to send in documentation that proved they were Thai. What ended up happening is that these people had to doctor that information up. They had to fake it. But even if this was not the case, they are still buying the Thai version. In this case, the Thai version is only playable from a set region. The North American/European version is more widely open. So while you are paying less, you are getting less. You are free to shop around and buy the NA or European version for the lowest price you can find, however. Valve does not prevent this, at all.
It does work both ways. Your comparison is messed up because you suggest that GAME is singular (their is only one game) and that PROGRAMMER is also only singular. That their is only one GAME and only one PROGRAMMER. In this case, you have only one specific GAME you want to buy. If the company wants one specific PROGRAMMER, they have to pay $$$. However, in the companies case, they elect to get another PROGRAMMER at $. In your case, you can choose that one GAME for $$$, or you can choose another GAME for $.
It spells it out rather clearly here.
"U.S.C. Title 18, Section 2257"
Granted, it's rather telling that I know what U.S.C. Title 18, Section 2257 is right off the bat.
PHP's documentation can be searched the same way. Just type in whatever you are looking up ('php.net/ mysql query' for example) and it searches the docs for it. More importantly, this existed prior to 2004 filing date.
Dear god, you know that your slashdot comments show your URL?!?? You'd better stop there!
Thank you Mr. Did-Not-Read-The-Fscking-Article.
It was never an issue before. More importantly, WordPress makes available the tools to stop this, and the developer in fact provides this information.
So... this only broke websites where programmers blindly accepted user input and trusted it, right?
Which wouldn't solve anything as their is no indication on meters that time is left on them.
I should also note that the intent of the new parking meters in Montreal is not only to increase revenue (it's now more expensive, and you can't piggyback on other people's time), but also to encourage mass transit. It's now cheaper to use the metro system then to try and find a parking space downtown and pay the prices. As a resident, I really don't mind this. While I'll sometimes take the car down there for particular reasons, it's also just as easy to park near the metros and take them in.
/sigh
It doesn't work that way. There is a central hub that you pay for all the parking spots on a street block. This means that when you leave your spot, their is no indication that the space still has time left on it. People parking there have to go pay as nothing tells them how long they have.
It's also the reason that $3/hour is not realistic. It's actually more.
You can't feed the meters on Montreal streets. All the signs are just that, signs for each parking space. There is a central hub that you pay for the time. When you leave, there is no indication of whether there is time left on that space, so someone else parking there has to pay.
While it's true that you need that physical proximity to elevate the relationship, the relationship can start with and grow online without proximity. Besides, if you are in a real relationship, and you really want to be with the person, making the move to be with them isn't a difficult thing to do.
We met back in 2001 on what now is FreeNode's #php channel. This past summer, we finally tied the knot. I ended up moving up to be with here (I was living in Pennsylvania at the time. She was living in Montreal). We are happily married, and have been a happy couple ever since we first started being a couple. Both of us are absolutely thrilled at the way we met. I've also developed a rather one-sided opinion that programming chat rooms are great places to pick up chicks. =)