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The Most Dangerous Server Rooms

Ymerej writes "The Register has an article on dangerous server rooms. Have you seen worse?" Perhaps The Register would like a picture of my desk if they really want to be scared.

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  1. So- why have stuff super-neat and tidy? by JimmytheGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a slob; I admit it. Even if I didn't, it would be obvious from the way I dress and the state of my desk. But at my job, I am cleaning up the spaghetti mess in the ceiling and trying to lay the wire cleanly from patch panels - switches.

    Documenting connections has a real payoff in troubleshooting. But doing stuff on aesthetic grounds is a harder sell. I have a gut sense that a clean layout is important even if you know the destination both ends of a wire whose middle runs through a snarl. Here's what I came up with:
    my version of the community policing broken windows theory.

    It's psychologically harder to do slipshod, shoddy work if everything around you has been done well. And it's hard to do a proper job if everything else is slipshod. As a matter of housemate politics, it's easier to leave the nth dirty dish in the sink than the first. You are only adding an increment, not changing state.

    Doing the Right Thing is contagious. At least, it is among folks I care to work with. Doing the Wrong Thing is catching, too. Morale is higher and people challenge themselves more at a shop that is run well.

    That's how I pitched it, and my boss bought it.

    1. Re:So- why have stuff super-neat and tidy? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "...But doing stuff on aesthetic grounds is a harder sell..."

      This is not always true!

      If you have a company that you are trying to get new customers and investors to come on board - and you need to show them your technology, often times they like to come over and take tours of your datacenter - HQ - IT Dept or office in general.

      Believe me - the asthetics of the cables that make your network have a very large impact on how people can view your company.

      For example, this picture shows that this particular setup went up in flames at some point (look at the burn marks on the door and melted cables). now you think that if this closet was setup properly (which would include asthetics) that it would have gone up in flames so easily. And do you think that any client/partner/investor would think you had your priorities straight if they saw a closet like this?

    2. Re:So- why have stuff super-neat and tidy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Super-neat can have its disadvantages.

      During WWII my father was, for a time, in a signals regiment, maintaining radios. Amongst the radios to be maintained was an HF radio, issued to the Guards regiments, which were equipped as Tank regiments. For those not familiar with the British army, the Guard regiments were the snootiest, most class conscious, spick-span and immaculate part of the army.

      So they opened these radios, and found inside a nasty mess of squiggly wires. So, one by one, they unsoldered each wire and replaced it with ones which went straight, turned a right angle, and went straight to its destination.

      And the radios never worked again. Because, being HF, the wavelengths involved were similar to the lengths of wire inside the case, and the exact length of each wire *mattered*.

  2. Problem is... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Our main wiring closet looks a little like the 'not so bad examples' of wiring closets in those pictures - though nothing like the more extreme ones.

    The problem is, once the thing gets into that kind of mess, you rarely have the chance to bring down the entire network to repatch all the cables and cable tie them into some kind of order.

    Not only that, but if you have loads of trunks and VLAN's configured, putting it all back in the right order can be a total ballache!

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  3. Re:I've Seen Server Rooms that were Really Dangero by Cramer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, that's sorta the whole point of halon (and thus, why isn't used anymore.)

  4. Sad by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have always thought that how organized a companies wiring is - is a direct reflection of the staff that works there.

    I know that when i moved into one company in Redwood City - the network wsa a nightmare. We had rooms that looke like that - but over the next 2 years we replaced almost every wire on that network - and demanded budget for proper closet setups - and got it.

    We eliminated all those closets that looked like that, and learned one hell of a lot in the process.

    I think that if your closets look like that - you are asking for fire - and it shows just how lazy you really are. No arguments of "I'm too busy" allowed - it just means your a lazy slob period.

    1. Re:Sad by Eol1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I disagree. Sometimes you inherit it (not always laziness). Recently ( as in 6 months ago) took over a 3 year contract from another company and they left wiring situations from hell. (a good example is the 100 pair multimode fiber buried about 5 feet down in the mud and ran for mile to our satellite shot with about 30 splices in it). Our wiring closets are even worse. Contract specifies operating and maintenance ONLY, not installation or engineering. You can be damned if you think I am cleaning up 3 years worth of installation hell from another contracting firm. Not in the contract and unless it goes down, not covered under maintenance. Nor am I going to subject my techs to months of misery fixing somebody elses mess especially when our contract will also be up in 3 years with no chance of renewal.

      Just because somebody has wiring from hell and jury rigged systems doesn't always mean they are lazy SOB's ... sometimes you just don't feel the need to fix other peoples problems. If your company didn't care before, they sure as hell don't care now, and if they do, they can write it in the contract.

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  5. Re:Radar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like something was lost in the translation.

    Most likely, when he flipped off the lights... they stayed on; the high-powered, high-frequency RF inducted into the wiring could be enough to keep a fluorescent lit, just like at a Tesla coil demonstration.

    CRTs and neon bulbs in equipment would no doubt show the same effect... and of course, if you have enough current in the air to light a fluorescent tube, think of what that does to your system and communications buses!

  6. SW too. by bored · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lots of software is the equivilant of those pictures. The only problem is that you can't see that from the pretty pictures on the box cover. Instead you see it in crashes and strange behavior. Two things cause it, first unskilled careless workers, second stressed workers in unrealistic situations. The second seems to be more previlant. They guy who wired that first mess probably knew that its better to label everything and run it down the side of the rack to the gutter in the floor (notice the one rack is accually nicely wired under the mess on top). Instead you have the manager who gives you 1 day to wire up 100 computers, or 1 week to add some big feature to the code base. The result is scrambling like mad and a "just plug it in and make it work don't make it pretty" attitude.

  7. Re:c'mon by Archfeld · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You must be unemployed or underage. Respond using your employers email and you are responding as an agent of the company. I don't work for hotmail so I don't see any sort of correlation. By your logic responding from home would ensure I was a rep of SBC ?

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  8. Wiring closets by crumbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a telecom contractor, I know that wiring closets have the lowest priority in terms of cleanup or the "make-it-look-pretty-the-boss-is-coming" effect. You should see some of the ones from the old Ma Bell days buried deep in the hearts of old office buildings. Yikes!

  9. Re:The perfect use of a cluttered mess like that by Afty0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Suffice to say, if those buckets get knocked over your job security is in question.

    I doubt it - we have a server room like that (bucket under the a/c to catch drips and leaks - it's killed monitors and keyboards before now) and neither myself nor the IT manager would lose our jobs. We ask for money for new a/c, we don't get it.

    Any court in the land would support an unfair dismissal case if we were to be fired because the air conditioning was leaking water, and we were ordered to keep the servers on regardless of health and safety.