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Slashback: BitKeeper, Maine, Novell

Slashback is back, with a largish handful of updates and new information about previously run stories. Topics this go-round include Xbox sales in Australia, the Novell / MySQL connection, Adam Smith (no, not that Adam Smith)'s bizarre anti-GPL statement mentioned yesterday, and more. Read on for the details.

I thought Adam Smith was in favor of free markets and the exchange of ideas. mrjive writes "The plot thickens. In response to yesterday's story, it turns out that the attack on the free software movement was attached to the end of the letter in question by Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash, who happens to have Microsoft as his biggest beneficiary. The original authors of the letter have sent an angry response for essentially twisting its original purpose. Read the full scoop here."

For the even-fuller scoop, see Roblimo's article on NewsForge.

Not bottling it up inside of himself. An anonymous reader writes "Richard M. Stallman has responded to comments made a week ago in response to his own Linux kernel mailing list post about the BitKeeper controversy. 'A technical issue or project sometimes raises ethical issues,' Stallman began. He did not stop there. More on the (newly cached and therefore a little bit Slashdot-immune) Linux and Main . Be gentle."

Free knowledge for sale for free, etc. OverCode@work writes "The complete LaTeX source to Loki Software's game programming book, Programming Linux Games, is now available on the author's site. This book was reviewed here a while back. Mad props to the publisher for letting this happen."

Everybody'sSQL haggar writes "MySQL (commercial license) will be shipped as standard with NetWare according to this announcement. I consider it a follow-up to the Slashdot story about the PostgreSQL port for NetWare. Apparently, the options for NetWare users are widening, thanks to open-source products!"

An iBook in every (lobster)pot! Call Me Black Cloud writes "Some time ago Maine awarded a contract to Apple for laptops for school kids. MacCentral has an interview with Maine governor Angus King where he discusses the success of the program. Despite the Maine state legislature's attempts to kill the program, it continues on. Why? Well, a $1M grant from the Gates Foundation certainly helped. Over the summer Apple delivered 18,000 iBooks and installed 239 wireless networks in 239 schools."

So long as they're not mandatory. Polo writes "I noticed that the Garmin Rino 110 and 120 are shipping. If you don't remember, these are FRS/GMRS Radios with integrated GPS. You can transmit your position to other units so they can hear you and see where you are. Pretty cool. This is a follow-up to an older story"

What the market will bear. His Nastiness writes "Just a follow-up that I ran across that indicates that Steve Ballmer may have just been blowing hot air on not selling the XBox in Austrailia anymore. See the previous thread here."

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  1. Maine is Smart by tekunokurato · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've lived in Maine for about six years now, even though I'm in Mass for college at present. Education was one of the major draws when my parents moved there, and it will continue to be one of the major draws for other families, especially with this program in place.

    I was back to visit for the Pop!Tech conference this past weekend; at Governor King's suggestion (he spoke briefly), I took a look at the Camden middle school, and it was incredible. The students were thoroughly engaged, and the teacher had the liberty to roam the isles and show them how to do things on their individual computers.

    Yeah, I wish the program had used a linux distro, but anything is better than nothing. It's a really special thing.

    1. Re:Maine is Smart by swdunlop · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Before you congratulate us too much, remember that Camden, ME is a very upper-scale tourism town. Due to the recent inroads by MBNA, property valuations are very high compared to the number of school students in the Camden-Rockport area.

      Yes, the laptop program is a nice idea. But from what parts I have encountered, it is a great demo in search of application. Jobs has been pushing it as way to push his digital video focus, which is not necessarily the most important thing for our children here. I'm glad you enjoyed the conference; just remember that there was a considerable amount of smoke and mirrors involved in the demos.

  2. Comments not related to Xbox??? wtf??! by Ted_Green · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Either the press need to learn to actualy quote people acurate, or Microsoft needs to stop talking out of both ends (probably both.)

    A Microsoft spokeswoman said that Ballmer's remarks were not specifically related to the Xbox, and that the company was committed to selling the console in Australia. http://www.gamemarketwatch.com/news/item.asp?nid=2 582

    versus


    Microsoft would be forced to reconsider selling the Xbox video game system in Australia, or seek changes to the law, following the acquittal in July of a Sydney man alleged to have sold chips that modify a Sony PlayStation 2 to play imported games, Microsoft chief executive Steve Ballmer said yesterday.
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/18/10345613 04223.html

  3. Re:Both parties are controlled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    It is obvious that the Gates Foundation is nothing more than a front for the already deemed illegal Microsoft monopoly, and all actions perpetrated by it ought to be viewed with suspicion.

    If the Foundation were truly interested in giving back to the community with no thought of itself, only of what would best aid the poor children of Maine (and there are a lot since the coal mines shut down back in the 70's), they would choose the Linux for its robustness and swath of free software.

    Instead, they looked to the future and saw how many Office licenses they could sell to the Maine government. By buying those Apples, they have effectively broadened their monopoly. Money that could have been used to help poor families devastated this winter by the cold (government should be planning ahead, btw) will now be used to pay for Microsoft Office licenses for these shiny new iBooks.

    Great donation, Gates. :-(

  4. Re:Both parties are controlled by Fiveeight · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's really not that much better here in the UK. We have three main parties (actually more like 2.5, but I'll get to that.)

    The Labour party are currently in power, they're easily the most professional politicians (read that as you will), and they're going to be in power forever, because the opposition is so hopeless. They're also big fans of big business, "streamlining" the justice system and good suits. They're also hopelessly corrupt in a million small, depressing ways that make you wonder how they maintain any self-respect. But hey, they "care", so it's alright.

    The reason the Labour party is going to be in power forever is, the Conservative party. They got beaten (demolished) in 1997, and they seem to have become less credible with every passing year. The reason that they got trashed in '97 was their corruption (real honest-to-god cash for favours stuff), unbearable arrogance and sheer incompetance. Since then, they've had two near-identical leaders who've spent most of their time playing right-wing catchup with the government and missing opportunities to /actually oppose/ things. They have at least finally managed to ditch all the old ex-ministers they had, which considering they were some of the most hated men in the country, was probably a sensible move.

    And the .5 party, the Liberal Democrats. Don't have that many suppporters, too close to the government on a lot of things, no doubt all funded by arms companies and crooked businessmen. Unlikely to win a general election. Still, some of their stuff appeals to naive knee-jerk liberals like me, and I have a Liberal Democrat MP because of that. They were also honest at least once when they pointed out that better services require more money, as opposed to mythical "efficiency savings" made by selling public utilities to large companies for fire sale prices and then paying whatever they ask for to keep them running.

  5. Re:European-style representation by Analysis+Paralysis · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This does not speak well of your knowledge of history. When the American War of Independence finished in 1783, Europe was a collection of monarchies with only some starting to devolve power to "elected" assemblies. The French Revolution of 1789 replaced their monarchy with a dictatorship with democracies only slowly evolving thereafter.

    As for the current state of affairs in Europe, parties are either given seats in direct relation to their voter numbers (proportional representation - used in most European democracies) or using the winner-takes-all system (single-member district plurality system, used in the US and Britain).

    Both have downsides, neither is ideal. However having just two major parties does lead to a convergence of policies as both try to appeal to a broad "centre ground" spectrum of voters - as seen in both the US (where both candidates were accused of being in the pockets of business/media corporations) and the UK (the current Labour government being seen as following many of the previous Conservative policies). This results in a denial of choice to the voter, with low turnouts being a typical sympton. Another possibility is that of extremists gaining votes simply by virtue of being of only ones to offer something new.

    As for dullards, the US has had an undistinguished record recently with Clinton being the only one who seemed to know what he was talking about policy-wise (as long as he kept his trouser zipper shut). Bush Snr and Reagan had their policies pretty much set by unelected advisors, and as for Bush Jnr...well saying he seems an improvement over Dan Quayle is the only compliment I can pay him. Europe's problem has been more with corruption rather than talent(German ex-Chancellor Kohl, French President Chirac and Italian President Berlusconi being examples).

  6. Re:Oh no...... by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok! Ok! I believe you! Pictures/load graphs would be fun though. (How much load does a Slashdotting cause?)

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  7. It is sorta neat-o by fatboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can transmit your position to other units so they can hear you and see where you are.

    I have been doing it since 1997. :)

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  8. Re:gps radio by kbielefe · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If you want to actually send your position over a satellite, get a ham radio license. Ham radio operators have been doing this for years. They can even use a handheld radio to send their GPS position over the International Space Station using APRS. Of course, no one makes a nice all-in-one GPS/handheld unit for us.

    I don't know if these rino units will really catch on. The range of these things is only about a half a mile with buildings and stuff around. At that range, you can almost always see a common landmark, if you can't see each other. Still, if you're going to use both a GPS and a radio, it's better than lugging both around. And they look pretty cool, besides. A better application might be on cell phones. Then the first sentence of every conversation wouldn't be "where you at?" Aren't they doing something like this for 911 reasons anyway?

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  9. Re:Oh no...... by OverCode@work · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Webalyzer usage page
    Apache server status page

    Note that Webalyzer updates at 6am, so today's stats aren't yet posted.

    This isn't a front page slashdotting; I've had that happen before, with a CGI script no less, and it brought my box to an absolute crawl.

    -John

  10. Re:European-style representation by Malcontent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Is this the perfect system? I doubt it. But is it the best one we've-- as a species, I mean-- come up with so far? Yes, definitely."

    I don't think so. It is not nearly representitive enough. For most people in the US voting is a futile experience because of the winner take all system. If you live in Montana and want to vote democrat you might as well not even bother. Same if you are a republican in NY.

    I know lots of people like you are perfectly content and are convinced that the US is the greatest country in the world and all but complacency is a bad thing. We can make our system lots better by utilizing all kinds of methods to achieve a more representitive govt. The first thing we have to do is to get rid of winner take all.

    "Name one government that has worked as long or as well as the United States'."

    America is only 200 years old ya moron. Most countries are older then the US.

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  11. Rhino irrelevant.... use mobile phone/GPS by anonymous+cupboard · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The Rhino isn't that relevant unless the FCC controls the frequencies somewhat better than CB.

    In Europe we already have combined GPS/GSM unit like the Benefon Esc! NT2002. The principle is so basic that they are even giving them to hunting dogs (who have a tendancy to get lost in the Finnish woods). True a glorified walkie-talkie requires no infrastructure and is cheaper to operate, but an infrastructure plus a pay per call means that the GPS solution will work in more places (try using a walkie-talkie around a mountain).

  12. The Melinda Gates Foundation by stox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It should really be named the Melinda Gates Foundation. She must be quite a woman. Until Bill made the best decision in his career, his charitable contributions from 1976 to 1997 amounted to be a big fat ZERO!!! It does appear the Melinda has had an enormous influence. In the past few years, the Gates Foundation has grown to one of the largest charitable contributors in the world when measured by dollars, but still is one of the smaller ones when you look at the percentage of the endowment they donate to charities. John D. Rockefeller gave 10% of his income every year to charity, beacause he realized that he built his fortune through the society and he owed that society a substantial debt. Maybe, someday, Bll Gates will come to the same conclusion.

    Until then, I wil stand by my conclusion that Bill Gates has been a tightwad, of previously un-imaginable proportion.

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  13. RE: -1: egocentric troll by gaj · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My mother should have taught me better than to feed the trolls, but what the hell ...

    So then, you have no idea at all what the NRA is really about, do you? They do more than any other group to educate children about gun saftey with their "Eddie Eagle" program. They work hard to make sure that the laws of our country are actually applied, as opposed to simply used as PR for political campaigns. They help to organize and promote a wide array of shooting sports. And, of course, they work their asses off to ensure that we don't lose our right to bear arms.

    I think the poster you're replying to has a very interesting and sensable giving program. ACLU to protect most of our Constitutional rights (they read more into the 1st Amendment than I think is warranted and ignore the 2nd, but that's for another rant), NRA to cover the 2nd (in addition to all the other good they do), and the EFF because the "mainstream" groups don't really get how technology changes the challanges to our liberty. Very nice.

    What you, dear troll, seem to be saying (in your delightfully ignorant way) is: "I don't like the NRA, so they shouldn't get any special status." Very enlightened of you. Guess what? Millions of people disagree with you. They are off all races and creeds, both men and women, young and old. They span the political spectrum from way off the Right edge to just shy of falling off the left edge. What they have in common is an abiding belief in our basic right to defend ourself and those we love against those who would rob us of our property, or liberty or our life.

  14. Our old pal Rep. Adam Smith by jdfox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's a small Wisdom McNugget from my congressman, Rep. Adam Smith. Yes, it's Redmond's good old "Burger and Fries Metaphor(tm) again.
    Some time back, Slashdot noted that MS had a congressional spam-o-matic page about the DoJ lawsuit, placed in a section where they knew only MS religionists would be bothering to read. Slashdot responded by posting up an article saying "Use this MS page to write your Congressman. Give our side of the story, politely." So I did, politely.
    By way of reply, Rep. Smith placed me on his spam list, with monthly doses of more or less the same marketing horseshit as in the above McNugget, with no means of removal. Emails to the congressional sysadmin went unanswered, naturally, so I had to phone up Smith's office, and explain to some hapless young secretary at length how to remove my name from the mailing list.

    It's worth noting that Rep. Smith and Agent Smith have never been seen together in the same photo. They are almost certainly the same person.