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DOJ Blocks Satellite TV Merger

EyesWideOpen writes "The Justice Department filed a lawsuit to block a merger between EchoStar Communications and Hughes Electronics that would have created the nation's largest pay-television service, stating that 'This merger would give EchoStar control of the skies for the provision of video programming by satellite, leaving customers to suffer from the resulting reduction of competition'. The FCC had already voted unanimously to oppose the merger because it would create a monopoly that would have 'adverse' effects for consumers."

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  1. What? by Quasar1999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Adverse effects??? Someone care to tell me where the hell these people were when Cable companies took root in my town??? Oh, did I say companies? I meant company... Adverse effects of that don't seem to bother these idiots... so much for affordable broadband via satellite throughout the country... so much for local tv service in real digital quality (not the digital BS cable has)... Ick... At first glance this seems like a great victory against monopolies... but what does it really mean???

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    1. Re:What? by stever00t · · Score: 5, Informative

      Cable companies and phone companies are often allowed to have a monopoly in a certain area of a town - it's perfectly legal when the town enters a contract with the cable/phone company.

      For instance, in my town of about 200,000 people, we have one cable company and one phone company - because we let them have a monopoly here in exchange for them laying down wire for the city (city owns it once they've laid it) and also making them push price changes, policy changes, important things like that before our city government - or risk losing their monopoly.

      I forget the name of the type of monopoly this is, but it's perfectly legal and (arguably) better for the population of a smaller city to have a company come in and wire the entire city just for being allowed a monopoly AND for the population to have relative control over the price and content offered.

    2. Re:What? by Xenographic · · Score: 3, Informative

      They're called "natural monopolies," IIRC.

    3. Re:What? by SacredNaCl · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Almost universally I've been against big company mergers that decrease competition. This wasn't one of them.

      I'm extremely disappointed with the FCC's decision in this matter, one that I feel was probably influenced by back door dealing at the behest of the current cable conglomerates.

      This was a deal that made sense for consumers, and made good business sense for the companies involved. It's also unfortunate that consumers are being denied Canadian competition in this market as well. (Maybe...but I doubt it, a NAFTA challenge will correct that last item.)

      I had a friend that a few years ago bought a house on the edge of what in 10 years will be suburbia, but it isn't yet. They are still getting things like water treatment, gas service, and the like wired up. Every year for 10 years the cable company here has promised to connect this community. Every year for 5 years the phone company has said "we're going to roll out DSL in your area soon". Every year the federal government gives them a ton of money in subsidies to 'wire up rural areas'. Nothing happens.

      Echostar has done more for rural communities in terms of offering service than cable ever has. At least they provide a choice. This deal would of allowed them to combine resources, have the bandwidth to offer additional services (and local channels) to just about every area of the US. It would of lowered the cost bar for the service as well. This is a slap in the face to every American living in rural communities and in communities that cable will never be available in.

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    4. Re:What? by ZoneGray · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apparently, the concept of a "natural monopoly" is a myth that just won't die. Sorry, don't mean to pick on you personally, but this one just gets under my skin.

      Theoretically, a "natural monopoly" was supposed to occur when a business experiences reduced marginal costs with increased production. Normally, when production increases, marginal costs increase. This, supposedly, creates a situation that would allow the company to defeat all of its competitors. For example, once the electric company has run a wire to your neighbor's house, then it's cheaper for them to run a wire to your house than it is for a competitior to do so.

      Well, duh. But this doesn't lead to monopoly.

      There's a lot more to electric service than a wire, and the electric company will still experience increased marginal costs in all of their other areas, whether it be power generation, transmission from generation sources, customer service, billing, etc. Yes, their average cost MIGHT decrease, but the marginal cost, the one that supposedly leads to the natural monoply, does not decrease.

      Even if their marginal cost did decrease, if they tried to use that advantage to jack up prices, then they would simply make themselves more vulnerable to competitors. Despite the simplistic arguments that might fool a freshman economics student (and most Ivy League professors), there is no such thing as a natural monopoly.

      But, this myth has been used to create all sorts of REAL monopolies. Wonder why there's only one electric wire coming to your house? Or only one phone line? Or only one cable line? It's because this "natural monopoly" myth has been used as an excuse to encode these monopolies into law. So now, the electric company can raise your rates, but all they have to fear is the politicans, who can be bought off much more cheaply than millions of consumers.

      In some cases, I think creating public utilities has had good effects; electricity costs more than it should, but it's probably more reliable than it would be if it were delivered by market mechanisms. This shows up most after storms and other natural disasters, when repair people are dispatched far in excess of what could be justified by lost revenue. The increased costs aren't as bad as they might be in other industries, because the product is pretty simple, and it's pretty much the same thing that's deleivered to all customers.

      Cable, telephone, and Internet are another story entirely, though. There's absolutely NO REASON that a second cable or local telco company couldn't be profictable in many situations, but they're prohibited from running a wire to your house in the name of protecting competition.

      We've seen multiple phone companies wire the whole nation for wireless telecom over the last decade. Likewise for upcoming 3G/1XRTT services. If the "Natural Monopoly" theory were even remotely true, this wouldn't have been possible.

  2. Business perspective by Daikiki · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work at a large electronics retailer, and I've noticed many times that customers have difficulty distinguishing between the competing products, Dish and DirectTV. Prices and products are similar. On the other hand, I also see the two constantly respond to the other's promotions and price changes. Pricing of both products have reached the point where setup, installation, and the required hardware is essentially free. I'm sure that wouldn;t have been the case for long had the merger been apprived. It's also nice to see the likes of AT&T be forced to respond to the competetive pricing of the sat. providers. They're still expensive by comparison, but imagine how much worse it would be without these competitors.

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  3. Seriously by El+Pollo+Loco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree. Where I live, it's AT&T for cable, and that's all. Up until recently, it was USWEST/QWEST for phone service. I guess the satellite companys just didn't bribe enough politicans.

  4. Clearly the DOJ doesn't care by tcd004 · · Score: 5, Funny

    How dare the government regulate where I get my media! What are they socialists???

    They don't care about my rights as a consumer to have ALL my services charged on one convenient bill, all my services installed and fixed by one courteous, prompt repairman!

    My life is so convenient when I can get all this stuff from one, homogenous provider! Maybe the government would like to provide all these services, oh, wait a minute, maybe it's not so socialist afterall. /Satire, or, at least something like it.

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  5. Questionable merger details by PhysicsScholar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I skimmed through the article, but I'm quite curious about some aspects of it.

    It is fair to say that the concerns that led to the passage of US merger laws, and the goals that the laws aim to achieve, are not unique to the United States.

    All countries that have adopted merger statutes will recognize them: putting limits on large concentrations of economic power, protecting small businesses, preserving competition, protecting jobs, encouraging economic efficiency, and protecting consumers against anticompetitive price increases. The explosion of new merger laws in recent years suggests that the issues may be close to universal.

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  6. These so-called effects by molrak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Adverse effects like small markets being able to get their local 3-5 stations over satellite? Adverse effects like a somewhat faster satellite internet connection? Adverse effects like nation-wide pricing? Silly me, I must need to check the definition of adverse.

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  7. Right result, wrong reason by coltrane679 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Opposing this merger on antitrust grounds is a no-brainer. It would mean the entire US would have but one satellite provider, which would be a total monopoly in those areas not served by cable. (Actually, there are ways for US residents to get Canadian satellite service from ExpressVu, like http://www.global-cm.net/).

    However, this sudden affection from the Bush administration for strictly enforcing antitrust law is obvious horseshit. Dish won a bidding war for Direct by outbidding Rupert Murdoch's Fox conglomerate. Murdock, a renowned political conservative (he of Fox News, and the NY Post, among other things) figured (correctly, as it turns out) that the politicans his lobbyists bought over the years--primarily Republicans--could be counted upon to do his bidding. And so they have.

    1. Re:Right result, wrong reason by evilviper · · Score: 4, Funny

      Phew... Thank's for clearing that up.

      When I initally read it, I was under the mistaken impression that they did the right thing for the right reasons. That goes against everything I've seen the government ever do, so I was so confused my mind coped by convincing me I'd traveled several decades back in time, when the government still cared about the people.

      Thank you for clearing up any mistaken impressions that the government cares about the people, and reinforcing the (obviously correct) view that our government is up for sale to the highest bidder.

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    2. Re:Right result, wrong reason by Ded+Bob · · Score: 4, Funny

      However, this sudden affection from the Bush administration for strictly enforcing antitrust law is obvious horseshit.

      Or maybe it is because the Clinton administration is not being bought by Turner to allow cable companies (namely Turner's) to grow into monopolies?

      See. I can also pull reasons out of thin air.

      Before I get marked down as flamebait, Ded Bob's political affiliation is none.

    3. Re:Right result, wrong reason by joebagodonuts · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not True. Fox actually bid more than Echo Star. Hughes accepted a lower bid from Dish, even though they knew up front that this would be be harder to get approved. $gosub rumor $rumor: The folks at DTV (executives) believe that if Murdoch were to take over, they would all be fired. If the EchoStar merger goes down the tubes, they might try a management buy out. $return The last thing the DTV folks want is Murdoch. The last thing the Gov't wants is EchoStarDTV, because all the rural customers have lobbied their congress people against it. My guess, the merger gets flushed, then DTV will flounder around going "Uh, OK now what do we do?" With Murdoch in the wings with another offer that I'm sure won't be nearly as good as the original, now that his main competition has been removed. The beauty of this from Echo Star's perspective: They have basically stopped the competition from doing anything posititve for the last year because of the merger. DTV hasn't done much to come up with new products or services, they've been waiting to "merge". Ain't gonna happen.

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    4. Re:Right result, wrong reason by joedoc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh, boy, here we go...the dangerous conservative businessman must have bribed Republicans somewhere to get this deal killed.

      First of all, the concept of two services in a competitive economy works. Where I live, the majority of people have to suffer with the horrible service and support from the monopoly cableco, AT&T, if they want local service and don't want to mount an antenna.

      In September, DirecTV announced local service here coming this month. I've had DirecTV for over four years, and I'll have to install a new dish to get locals, but I can now pull the YAGI antenna off my roof. (It's nothing but a lightning rod here in Florida, anyway). The surge in sales of new DirecTV installs since the announcement has been remarkable.

      (I can tell when interest is piqued when a lot of people I know start asking my opinions about my service).

      A few weeks ago, Dish Network announced local availabilty on their systems beginning next week. Now, there's even more of a choice. Since DirecTV provides more subscription sports services, you can choose that one if that's a big deal for you. If not, the cable/movie channel packages from Dish are nearly identical in their offerings. And now locals can be had on both.

      Now that three providers offer services in the area, the pressure on AT&T to improve service and quality (and price) increases, and eventually, everyone benefits.

      But, what do Murdoch's politics have to do with him buying DirecTV? (His bid was rejected initially becuase Hughes apparently wanted to merge rather than sell the service and keep two systems in place). His holdings include satellite systems in Europe, and him owning DTV might mean a future of sharing those resources and allowing more foreign and global services to each side of the pond. I see that as a potential benefit.

      With Charlie Ergen and Echostar pulling the strings, all I might be able to count on is being forced to change all my equipment, or potentially losing the sports subscriptions I enjoy so much. I want choice, and I have it.

      And, by the way Fox News is not a "conservative news network." They have conservative folks on opinion shows (i.e., Sean Hannity), but that have a stable of liberals as well (Alan Combs, same show) to provide both sides. Their hard news shows also provide a more balanced view, which is something that doesn't exist on network or network-owned cable outlets. Which is why people aren't used to it, causing such confusion.

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  8. What's the hidden agenda here? by loggia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everything the FCC has been doing under Michael Powell is pro-merger, pro-consolidation, anti-consumer.

    So, I say, what's the frequency, Michael? What's the hidden agenda here - because there obviously must be one.

  9. Sometimes Gov't works by ZeroLogic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Could this be an example of the government doing something right? And maybe, just maybe protecting the rights of its citizens?

    1. Re:Sometimes Gov't works by aanantha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Could this be an example of the government doing something right? And maybe, just maybe protecting the rights of its citizens?

      No such luck. This is an example of the administration trying to protect their cronies in the cable industry.

      Individually, Dish Networks and DirectTV are no threat to the local cable companies. People who live in apartment complexes are rarely able to install satellite dishes. If your patio doesn't point the right way or you don't have a clear 45 degree line of site over any trees, you're screwed. A few complexes will let you install a dish on the roof if you're on the top floor. But they don't have to so they usually will not permit it. Many windows are opaque to satellite signals, so simply finding a window pointing in the right direction is not necessarily enough. I have to open a bedroom window to use my dish.

      And even if you can get a dish installed, you probably won't get all your local networks. Although there will always be one station broadcast for every network from your satellite, you can't get access to any station that's not in your "broadcast area". Dish and DirecTV would probably like to sell you a package that gives you access to a replacement station in a different region, but they're not allowed to. The law prohibits it. Years ago, the cable companies lobbied the government to put that law in place to protect themselves from satellite competitors. How many people will subscribe to satellite TV when they'd be missing one or two of ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, UPN, and WB?

  10. Good Move by Evil+Adrian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A good move, especially considering that the barrier for entry to that industry is so insanely high that only Microsoft would dare attempt it.

    With that said, how much do you want to bet that Microsoft tries to buy one of them?

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  11. Think of the hackers!!! by CySurflex · · Score: 5, Funny

    Satellite hackers around the US and Canada are outraged at this move by the FCC. Rob Mishka, a long time connoisseur of free (read: stolen) satellite TV, was quoted as saying "We are just sick of having to deal with two different encryption keys every damn week. If they merged we would only have to deal with one!". Rob then spit out the tobacco he was chewing and went to work on the Trans-Am that has been raised on 8 bricks in his front yard since 1998.

  12. duh by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone obviously forgot the hookers and blow.

    They come BEFORE the merger, not after.

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  13. Relax by dachshund · · Score: 3, Interesting
    At first glance this seems like a great victory against monopolies... but what does it really mean???

    It means you won't be facing a monopoly in the sky just like the one you've currently got on the ground. I think the companies involved will muddle on through to providing the services you desire without merging into a mega-corp.

    1. Re:Relax by KlomDark · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh bullshit. Two near monopolies are better than one complete monopoly.

      Your point is a assinine as wanting only Microsoft to produce software. Where would that leave us?

  14. The REAL monopoly rears its ugly head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    So many people fail to get it still. Only government can truly create a monopoly. No, Microsoft does NOT have a monopoly. As long as there exists one x86 box running something else productively, it does not have one.

    Supposed the two dish companies had merged? How popular would it have been for them to have immediately jacked the prices up? But, you say, they could have done it anyway, because people would have had no choice? Well, there IS still air channels. Or, radical idea here! Quit watching TV! Ahh...now I see the problem. The State made sure to preserve the people's Bread and Circuses. If people stopped watching TV, they might start reading or something hazardous.

    But slightly more seriously, to take it to an illustrative extreme, the satellite networks join, and jack prices way up. How long can they keep that up? A demonstrated low level of profitable service has apparently been illustrated at the current level. If they exceed this, the pressure just keeps increasing for someone to come in from underneath and displace them as cheap as they currently are operating. It might take 2 or three years, but it will happen. Oh wait. No it won't. Too much government red tape to get through. :-P

    Meanwhile, the two existing companies can collude a little bit, and stay just good enough, and lobby just enough to keep screwing you more than unfettered competition would.

    What the hell, if they did abuse their market, maybe it would be a good thing. The next dish network to displace them might use 6" dishes, or roll out broadband cable/internet or something. The existing companies are not as likely to do that; they are happy where they are, making money.

  15. It's all a sham. by cryptochrome · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure it seems like this is a great thing, having prevented a satellite TV monopoly, but look again: unlike cable, which is limited only by the expense of laying and lighting cable, satellite has severe constraints on expansion of their service. It's really expensive (and risky) to launch a satellite, there are limited orbits for them to use, and limited frequencies for them to use. A merger would have meant that the two companies could have pooled their resources and offered local channels throughout the country. Instead there's a huge duplication of effort, neither of which is adequate. So instead of less populous areas being subject to a monopoly (whose prices could have been controlled by other means, namely a single nationwide pricing scheme), they're subject to NO decent service. Cable, meanwhile, enjoys an effective monopoly in all those areas, at whatever price it feels like, assuming it feels like serving them at all.

    (BTW: another brain-dead, protectionist aspect of the legalities surrounding satellite TV - unless you're in a particular local broadcast market, you're not allowed to receive channels in it - even if the equivalent channel doesn't exist in your area, or no local service is available for your area! I.E. I can't get UPN nor WB via satellite, despite the fact that they are actually broadcasting it off the same bird I would receive from. )

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  16. Re:Anyone else amazed ? by davmoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    The only cure for obstructions is to cut down trees or remove buildings.

    However, several years ago the FCC ruled that building codes and deed covenants could not be used to block a homeowner from installing a small satellite dish or antenna to receive broadcast TV.

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  17. And the stocks went up. by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Amusingly, when Justice Department opposition to the merger was announced, both stocks went up. That indicates what investors think of the deal.

    Most mergers don't do much for the shareholders. In fact, most M&A activity is counterproductive. You'd think otherwise, but, in fact, making the company formed by a merger work properly is hard.

  18. This merger has been dead for a while... by doormat · · Score: 5, Informative

    The biggest point is that in most areas (in temrs of geography) of the country, this reduces multi-channel tv systems from two to one company, and it cities with cable, from 3 to 2.

    When the merger first came out it didnt seem so bad, because both satellite companies had stagnated for a while in terms of adding content and local markets (aka local-in-local, or LiL). But in the past year, three spot-beam satellites have become operational, and one more is scheduled to come online. Both Dish network and DirecTV have (or will have soon) the capability to serve the top 100 or so television markets (there are around 220 DMA, or designated viewing areas). Dish Network actually has the capability to serve all 220 DMAs using other oribtal locations for satellites that can see half the country (at 61.5 degrees Wests and 148 degrees West, where as the current satellites that can see all of the CONtinental US are located at 101, 110, and 119 degrees west, aka the three CONUS slots).

    The only thing that the merger would have helped is HDTV offerings. Right now, each provider has 4-5 HD channels. As more come online, there will be a bandwidth crunch (since each HD channel will take up the space of 4-6 regular channels). Maybe at the maximum, there will be room for about 20 HD channels for each provider, but there is not enough bandwidth to provide more than that.

    Also, Charlie Ergan (the CEO of Echostar, the owner of Dish Network), has done a number of things to piss off the FCC (like challenging the law that says if a provider carries any number of local channels from a city, it must carry all of the channels for that city, regardless of how popular the station is). After he lost the appeal for this law, he tried to do an end-run around the law, and put the most popular networks (the big four plus WB and UPN and in some cases PBS) on the main satellites, and require users to put up a second dish for the smaller stations. The FCC got pissed and told Echostar to do a number of remedies to fix the situation. They have come into compliance of the recomendations, but its still very iffy.

    All and all, its a good thing this merger was rejected. The downside is that now Rupert Murdoch will now be the likely owner for DirecTV. Which is better, the devil you know, or the devil you dont?

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  19. Missing information by ctr2sprt · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I didn't see it in the two articles, but... the merger was proposed, and voted down, once already. This new one has a provision which gives some cable company (Cablevision?) rights to use parts of the combined company's satellites. Cablevision, or whatever company it is, is not currently in the satellite TV game. Apparently the owner of the company is planning to sell some assets (like the channel AMC) to fund investment. The idea here is that Hughes et al. were offering a potential competitor even after the merger is done. This is described in detail in an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal. Apparently the FCC's concerns with the new proposal are that Cablevision might not have the financial backing to last in the satellite TV business. The WSJ cynically observes that they are trying to learn the lesson they got from the telco deregulation nightmare, where the Baby Bells just outspent their smaller challengers and snapped up the remains when they went bankrupt. But the FCC is also running the danger of preventing mergers of financially-insecure companies, with the possible result that they'll all go bust.

    There are some other interesting tidbits in the piece, like that the potential satellite competitor is interested in offering some 40 HDTV channels. The WSJ is unabashedly free-market, so they support the revised merger, apparently with the opinion that neither company can combat cable companies independently.

  20. Cable Co's get their way by Araxen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Honestly the only way Sattelite TV was to be a threat to Cable television and end their monopoly reign over people is to merge Echostar and Dtv. With Echostar and Dtv merged into 1 company, they could offer all the locals to all markets, but with the merger being block local channels can only be offered to some markets instead of all of them.
    Cable Co's feared a merged Echostar/Dtv, as they wouldn't have a monopoly anymore and Sattelite TV was a real threat with all local market channels being offered but they have nothing to fear now.

  21. Remember when,..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember when having cable tv meant you had pretty much commericial free tv? The big 3 had to
    have commericials to pay for the shows. Cable TV is something you HAVE to pay for. Now there are
    as many or more commericials on CABLE TV. So I not only pay the %$#^@'s for the cable, but also
    have to endure #$(#^(# commericals.

    I would let them have their monopoly if they would promise to get rid of the commericials.

    1. Re:Remember when,..... by scharkalvin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The cable movie networks (showtime, movie channel, hbo, cinemax, etc) don't have commericals (except for themselves and sometimes each other). The other networks (usa, nick, history, etc) do, but then again you don't pay very much for them. For one nonimal fee you get 20 or more cable channels, and your cable company pays very little to provide them (just for the equipment mostly). So the only way USA et all pay their bills is to sell time, just like the 'big three'. OTOH YOU are paying for the movie networks directly. Just because it's cable don't mean it's paid for.

  22. Re:That's good by mc6809e · · Score: 4, Informative

    When the government allows companies to merge into huge monopolies, they are only laying the foundations for socialism -- and that's the last thing we ever want in America.

    The terms "fascism" and "socialism" get thrown around here all the time. Please review their definitions.

    From Marriam-Websters:

    Main Entry: socialism
    Pronunciation: 'sO-sh&-"li-z&m
    Function: noun
    Date: 1837
    1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    Main Entry: fascism
    Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
    Date: 1921
    1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
    2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

    In both cases, society or nation is emphasized over the individual.

  23. Re:Erf? Why bad? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Surely a merger is good for consumers?

    Exactly the opposite, actually.

    A merger does not mean that every channel on each existing service automatically gets pulled on to the new service

    Let's take SlashDotters' favorite content niche, Porn, as an example. (L33T HAxx0Rs and other fourteen-year-olds, please note the correct spelling).

    Let's say the New Merged Company (NewCo) decides they want to charge a higher premium for Porn. Not pay the content provider (e.g., Playboy) any more, just charge a higher premium. Some subscribers pay it happily, others grudgingly, others drop the channel(s). There is little either the content owner (Playboy) or the consumer can do. With only one distributor -- one trucking company driving the food from the farm into the local grocery store -- the distributor makes the rules and sets the margins.

    Let's say you are a struggling Porn network and you want to get distribution. If NewCo decides it has enough Porn channels at the moment (with Playboy's 4 or 5 or whatever it is), you're done. At the moment, with two sources of satellite distribution, the newer smaller nets are more likely to get a niche, as each distributor uses it as leverage against their compeitor ("Get a Subscribution to Dish, we have the CowboyNeal Porn Channel, the other guys don't!")

    If the Porn Channel is entenched with NewCo, and its CEO plays golf with NewCo's EVP Programming every Sunday, it's pretty much on a path to squeezing out more copycat Porn channels to the consumers while figuring out exactly how frequently it can raise rates. Why not? No competition will be introduced. In fact, the distributor can quite handily use its position as the single distributor to dictate exactly what type of new channels should be introduced, and, more disturbingly, how the content on existing channels should be modified.

    Worst of all, yet not unimaginable (especially given our niche example) NewCo might (albeit foolishly) even decide they did not want to carry Porn.

    As an aside, I am fascinated to see so much support for this merger here on SlashDot. It is getting tougher and tougher to figure this place out. Not that that is a bad thing, of course. Makes for some interesting discussions.

  24. Half the country may never get locals via sat by Slashdolt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In land mass, it's probably more than half, but in population, it's only about 15%.

    If you read the FCC's decision (available from www.fcc.gov), they repeatedly mention that without the merger the two companies can still provide local into local service for 100 of the roughly 200 DMA's in the country. Had the merger been accepted, it would have been all 200.

    I really don't see how satellite can possibly COMPETE EFFECTIVELY against cable, when they're only provide local-into-local service for the larger metropolitan areas, which may even have multiple cable companies also competing!

    The DOJ could easily make sure that the New Echostar keeps its promise of uniform pricing, and make no mistake, They're not making a whole lot of money from us people in Farm Country (as I am), so it wouldn't make sense for them to create "uniformly high pricing", unless they wanted to just roll over and die.

    The FCC generally makes decisions that are friendly to broadcasters. Look at their decisions against satellite over the last few years. They (and Congress) regard satellite companies as essentially wanting to steal television from Over The Air broadcasters.

    I quit watching the major networks (ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX) about 3 years ago, when I couldn't get a decent signal over-the-air. I get UPN and WB via satellite superstations, and I watch those quite a bit. Broacasters should have been fighting tooth and nail for this, but instead they generally opposed it, probably out of habit. I might actually start watching network TV again, if I could get it on sat.

    I'm very angry at Rural TV, and other "rural" groups that opposed this merger. As a rural person in a DMA that will likely never get locals via satellite, I am very angry at these people that are supposedly representing me. They don't speak on my behalf.

  25. State of satellite TV in North America by shepd · · Score: 3, Informative

    The entire problem here is that the company selling you service is the same as the company owning the satellites. This is no different from when long distance service was sold to you by the same people who sold you your (overpriced) monopoly landline phone service.

    What North America needs is separation of these two areas. (Standard) DVB could do this and still provide the same service level North American currently enjoys. A satellite would be blasted into orbit by an actual telecomms company, a satellite TV station would rent time from them to put their station on the air, and, if necessary, they would encrypt the channel and sell the service to North America in general if they felt Advertising revenue wouldn't cover their rental costs (note: In most cases it would -- A large percentage of what you see on DSS has already been broadcast in the clear on one or two satellites before it makes it to you, largely commercial free). You could buy individual channels that you want (assuming those aren't free), you wouldn't worry about DishNet having UPN and DirectTV not, and there's no middle-man. Not to mention you'd be able to use the huge amount of GREAT DVB gear out there, including computer capture cards. And the freedom of any company being able to broadcast TV as long as they can pony up the cash necessary to do it would be excellent.

    Right now we have two companies with a pile of hardly used birds up in the sky. There's complete overlap on four of them, making two useless. Another one broadcasts the (largely unreceived) HDTV content, and so on.

    When will this happen?

    Beats me. My bets are on 20 or 30 years into the future, or maybe when the current birds run out of fuel. I do know it has to happen sometime. It's inevtitable.

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    If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
  26. Re:What? - It means that Murdoch won by mbone · · Score: 3, Informative

    What does it mean ?

    It means that Rupert Murdoch and News Corp won in its battle to keep the US satellite market open for them to try and dominate as they do in Europe.

    Look for News Corp to snap up one of these payers within a year or so at firesale prices.