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My Compost Bin And I

John writes "There they were, staring at me with a last glimmer of hope. I tried to turn to avoid the cries of help they echoed, but they were too much for me to bare. Minutes later, with an insight of knowledge, I quickly devised a plan to rescue these dying souls. And out of the bitter remains I found around my place of refuge, I constructed a home for them - somewhere where they could be in peace - a compost bin. The vegetable scraps rejoiced! Their time of suffering was no longer, for my divine plan had taken effect. "

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  1. Rubbish by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Funny

    What a bunch of rubbish. I cannot believe /. would post this pile of rotting crapola.

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    1. Re:Rubbish by jpetts · · Score: 5, Funny

      What a bunch of rubbish. I cannot believe /. would post this pile of rotting crapola

      It just proves that /. is a bot, trawling for text: it picked up "com", "post" and "bin", and Bam!:- there's the story!

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    2. Re:Rubbish by cscx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, in my high school biology class, we made these! I'm waiting on a story on coke-bottle terrariums next week!

  2. Wow by Pahroza · · Score: 5, Funny

    People have been building compost heaps for years and years and years. How exactly is this news? Oh!!! I think I got it! A geek who went outside!

    1. Re:Wow by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting
      A geek who went outside!

      Not just one, but one of many!

      Years ago I embarked upon an organic garden (which you can really get into) in my back yard. Learning about the ins and outs of soil, composting, sympathetic planting, etc. much of it through USENET gardening groups before there were even web browsers. Hacking an organic garden can be no less rewarding or involved than any coding project. Including the internet (as it was at the time) and assistance from several gardening buffs who know how to get to USENET (and a few university extension offices (Ohio State, Michigan State to name a couple)) made it all the more cool. Too bad I now live in a townhouse, with no garden option. :-(

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  3. The Dungeon Master Speaks... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Minutes later, with an insight of knowledge, I quickly devised a plan to rescue these dying souls. And out of the bitter remains I found around my place of refuge, I constructed a home for them -"

    Anybody else read that expecting to hear "And then I rolled a three..."?

    1. Re:The Dungeon Master Speaks... by image · · Score: 4, Funny

      >Anybody else read that expecting to hear "And then I rolled a three..."?

      Based on most of the people I've known that would build a compost bin, I did expect something that started with "and then I rolled a..."

      But it didn't end in "three." : )

  4. Pocket Mulch by antis0c · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lisa: My name's Lisa Simpson. I think your protest was incredibly brave.
    Jesse: Thank you. This planet needs every friend it can get.
    Lisa: Oh, the earth is the best! That's why I'm a vegetarian.
    Jesse: Heh. Well, that's a start.
    Lisa: Uh, well, I was thinking of going vegan.
    Jesse: [chuckles] I'm a level 5 vegan -- I won't eat anything that casts a
    shadow.
    Lisa: Wow. Um ... I started an organic compost pile at home.
    Jesse: Only at home? You mean you don't pocket-mulch? [takes out pocket
    stuff for Lisa to feel]

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  5. Roof? by Cyno01 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't get it. Why all the work on the tiles on top, why would you want to keep rain out of your compost heap? Doesn't the moisture help with the decomposition? Could someone enlighten me on this before i ask four questions in a row?

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  6. This "news" article being posted on slashdot... by ice-nine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... really makes a case for moderation of articles, and not just comments.

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  7. Greencone + Compost + Recycle = little garbage by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Informative

    I recently bought a house. One of the first things I did was build a compost bin and buy a greencone. Between that and recycling, I have very little garbage each week. Another benefit is no smelly garbage in the house since everything that rots or decomposes goes in either the green cone or the compost.

    1. Re:Greencone + Compost + Recycle = little garbage by Servo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For those in apartments, you may want to check out Mary Appelhof's worm compost info.

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  8. Composting ideas by nothing_23 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am currently taking a class on Sustainable Resource Sciences. Last week we had a lecture on composting. I can't believe that people pay the city to take their yard waste away, and then pay someone else money to buy soil amendments for their garden.
    Here are some other links my professor provided:
    http://compostingcouncil.org/
    http://www.oldgrowth.org/compost/
    Or here is the lecture in pdf format

  9. "Four upside down pot plants." by NineNine · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the article, the author mentions that "Four upside down pot plants." help with circulation. I don't know about him, but four pot plants, upside down or otherwise, don't help me with circulation... they knock me on my ass.

    1. Re:"Four upside down pot plants." by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, as THC is a vasodilator, marijuana does improve circulation.

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  10. So? by Tremblay99 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've been using a plastic worm compostor for years ... add kitchen scraps and paper, the worms digest everything several times faster than any compost pile.

    Oh yeah, standard designs all have drainage, and most are made to work indoors (low/no stink, if done properly). Just check out a link or two.

  11. Never quite understood by Dirtside · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've never quite understood what the purpose of a compost pile is. I'm vaguely aware of the organic matter in the pile decaying, and large piles can get rather warm (a big enough pile may burst into flame, or so I've heard). But, uh... why are we making compost piles, exactly?

    Oh, yeah, and add me to the growing list of people who vote this article Least. Relevant. Slashdot. Article. Ever.

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  12. Good article... by NineNine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is this I see?? An article on Slashdot that's *NOT* about Evil Microsoft or the Evil government? Be still my beatign heart! Is this an acknowledgement that there are geeks that don't just sit around and write angry letters to senator's junk mail boxes about the evils or Microsoft and the lack of privacy while waiting for the last hour's version of Mozilla to compile on a Gentoo box used to play Quake 3? Dear God! I am *so* impressed. As a part time biology geek, I was fucking thrilled to see this post. Keep it up. There's more to true geekiness than OSS and boring anti-privacy law garbage.

  13. Re:Fraggles by GordoTheGeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, you're both wrong. The Trash Heap's name was Marjorie. The Trash Heap has spoken!

  14. How lame by jukal · · Score: 5, Informative
    why don't you instead turn the compost bins into electricity generators. There was a related story on slashdot, which I could not find, so instead, read this(generating electricity with biomass):

    Cuba is about to start the nation's first-ever sugar cane harvest in which a sugar mill will not make SUGAR, but instead will be generating electricity from the biomass.

  15. Re:news for nerds? by vsprintf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Eh... why exactly does this qualify for a slashdot article (frontpage)? . . . but in the end a compost pike is still just a pile of crap!

    And this would differ from most slashdot articles because . . . ?

  16. don't roll your own by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Building a compost heap is an annoying piece of work; and you have to tend the thing, stirring it up. They make a rolling composter that, instead of having to dig and churn all that smelly stuff, you just roll the bin around to mix it.

  17. Re:news for nerds? by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    wellllll....let's take a look at the old faq:

    Slashdot is many things to many people. Some people think it's a Linux site. To others, it's a geek hangout. I've always worked very hard to make sure that Slashdot matches up with my interests and the interests of my authors. We think we're pretty typical Slashdot readers... but that does mean that occasionally one of us might post something that you think is inappropriate.

    That's why.

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  18. I have a compost pile, too by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's in my sink. I use a stack of dirty dishes to protect it.

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  19. Rotten compost by kitzilla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Slashdotted already. :-)

    Glad the guy is composting, but--for whatever a gardening discussion is worth on a tech site--I don't think he's got enough air circulation going on.

    The holes look too small. He also doesn't discuss how he's going to turn the pile, which is real important in closed compost bins.No oxygen equals stinky sludge. Mmmm...nummy!

    The simplest (and one of the most effective) compost heap is just a big ole pile laying directly on the ground. Put a bit of carpet remnant on the top to hold moisture, and you're golden. Piles can be made neater with a bit of chicken wire and some supports. Real low-tech stuff.

    Here's a link to all things rotten:

    http://www.oldgrowth.org/compost/

    Twinkies don't compost, by the way. Something my kids discovered.

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    1. Re:Rotten compost by ultramk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Twinkies don't compost, by the way. Something my kids discovered.

      More than that, they're nearly immune to aging. Back when I was a freshman art student ('93, 94?) I made a sculpture featuring an ordinary Twinky, in a lexan case I created that was supposed to reference Lenin's final resting place... it's even internally lit.

      Before you ask, no, I didn't spray the Twinky with anything. Straight out of the package. The case is not air-tight, but it's close.

      Of course, it was in a couple of student shows while I was at school, but I figured when it started lookiing nasty, I'd pop in a new one. That was almost 10 years ago, and it still looks great, as you can see (I took those photos about 5 minutes ago). Notice the dust on top of the case? I do dust it every 6 months or so...

      I noticed a bit of shrinkage last year, but it's pretty slight. Of course, discussing art on /. is like asking the guy at TacoBell about optimal router configurations, but I thought you all might be amused.

      Michael-

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  20. required reading about compost by gordona · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A poem by Walt Whitman, innocently entitled "This Compost" (http://www.riles.org/compost.htm), reveals all there is to know about compost. On the earth beneath our feet he asks where all the rotting corpses have gone and how such sweet things like blackberries and apples can grow "out of such corruptions". But read it for yourself and behold the awe and mystery of the grand design. When looked at it this way, each of us becomes fodder for something else!

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  21. Re:This gets posted??? by cscx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Welcome to the club.

    2002-09-01 22:46:39 Greek Government Bans *All* Video Games (yro,censorship) (rejected)
    2002-09-02 02:10:17 MLB Wants to Shut Down Fan Web Sites (yro,censorship) (rejected)
    2002-09-03 15:37:59 N'Sync Star Replaced With Cargo on Soyuz Mission (articles,humor) (rejected)
    2002-09-04 23:30:12 "Smart" Furniture (articles,tech) (rejected)
    2002-09-05 08:17:26 First Commercial Moon Trip OKed (science,space) (rejected)
    2002-09-06 17:02:22 RIAA Shuts Down Aimster (yro,censorship) (rejected)
    2002-09-08 09:50:52 Japan to Test Space Shuttle Technology (articles,space) (rejected)
    2002-09-10 23:43:26 Man Jailed For Playing Tetris On Airplane (articles,humor) (rejected)
    2002-09-11 08:30:34 How to Cook With Lava (articles,humor)
    2002-09-16 09:12:31 Saturn V Space Junk Could Strike Moon (articles,space) (rejected)
    2002-10-19 06:00:31 Jesse Helms Freezes Bill, Saves Small Webcasters (articles,news) (rejected)
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    2002-10-27 16:34:33 World's Smallest Computer (articles,tech) (rejected)
    2002-11-05 16:49:13 Self-Healing Battle Tanks (articles,tech) (rejected)
    2002-11-06 01:38:02 Google's 'Compute' takes on Distributed Computing (articles,security) (rejected)

    An interesting story is that a good 4 or 5 of those stories were posted A WEEK or more LATER. Note the one about cooking with lava is still 'pending.' Hemos might post that one; it's evident from this story that he's a tree-hugger. =)

  22. Compost Queen by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 3, Funny
    "My whole life had been spent waiting for an epiphany, a manifestation of God's presence, the kind of transcendent, magical experience that lets you see your place in the big picture. And that is what I had with my first compost heap"

    - Bette Midler, on being named "Compost Queen" in Los Angeles, c. 1990s

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  23. That compost bin sucks. by leastsquares · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) Who cares about the compost getting wet when it rains? So long as the drainage is fairly good, a bit of rain won't hurt.

    2) It looks like it is sitting in the sun. That's going to really stink in the summer. Instead of being a nice place friendly mold/fungi/insects to hang out, it is just going to attact wasps and roaches in the summer.

    3) How do the worms get in? Worms really help to make good compost. They mix it around, while eating much nasty bacteria.

    Not that I'm an expert in composting or anything. He should have just cut a couple of 6 inch holes in the bottom of his box and sat it on some soil.

  24. food waste breeds vermin. by twitter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There are good reasons to throw food wastes away. Vermin, large and small, can turn your little pile into a real biohazard. A better soloution is to eat what you buy and don't buy things you will throw away.

    A neighbor I once had composted all their kitchen scraps in our shared back yard and there I learned that not all things rot well. It stank, but that was the least of it's problems. The pile fed rats and scattered the mess all over. I was not happy to think of the backyard as a magnet for flea bearing pests and kept the cats inside. Cats that got out got fleas and had to be treated. Fleas are a serious health hazard. The raccoons I feed don't seem to give me the same problems.

    Other nasties can flourish in your obstensibly friendly compost heap. Crop pests have been known to winter in compost heaps outside processing plants. Pests like potato weavils can decimate crops and require extensive use of pesticides if they are not all eliminated from a given region. While the chances of such pests wintering in your pile may be remote, you might not want to make that pile if you don't know how to recognize the pests. Molds and blights that might have slipped past customs can also take up residence in your given area if you simply throw your wastes out on the ground to rot. Whole regions of Florida have been ruined by citrus blight.

    The landfill is a good place for food wastes. Sanitary landfills are called that because they get sealed up. Clay lined and capped, stuff goes in and does not come out. It's one place I don't mind food wastes becoming black gold.

    According to the cited article, food wastes make up 10% of the waste stream on average but they can represent much less than that. I hate putting food wastes into the trash, so I try to eat everything. Carcases become stocks, leftovers are frozen in meal size portions, Jambalya, pasta and tacos eat all the spare meat. It's not that hard to do. Modern food processing assures that most food mass is used.

    Want great soil? By all means, composte your lawn clippings, the leaves you rake and other stuff that naturally hits the ground. Oak leaves are some of the best and you can find wonderful soil in gutters where people are sloppy about raking their yards. If you must tread into the wild world of rotten food, please watch your pile and try not to obnox your neighbors.

    I don't have much garbage either.

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    1. Re:food waste breeds vermin. by david.given · · Score: 5, Informative
      A neighbor I once had composted all their kitchen scraps in our shared back yard and there I learned that not all things rot well. It stank, but that was the least of it's problems.

      Well, yeah. That's why you get a Green Cone. They're deceptively simple; there's some very cunning engineering in there that makes your compost decompose properly. It's not just a bucket.

      Basically, it's a solar-powered convector. There's a big air space inside, and baffles to route the air into the compost. The air is drawn through the material, maintaining high oxygen levels and preventing anaerobic decomposition (this was the problem you had; without proper ventilation, you get anaerobic bacteria, which produce assorted unpleasant substances including ketones, which smell to high heaven). It's largely sealed and even if you leave the lid off, they don't smell.

      If installed properly --- it's got to get sunlight --- it basically requires no maintenance. You put waste in. Nothing comes out. The decomposed material is absorbed into the ground under the Cone. They say that in a particularly bad year the bacteria might not be able to decompose everything, and you may need to empty it... but this will only happen every couple of years at most.

      They are seriously neat gadgets, and are a stunning example of high-tech designs implemented in low-tech materials. They're definately worth checking out at their website. If I didn't have a flat I'd buy one like a shot.

      ...

      The same sort of technology is coming into fashion. In Australia I've seen lavatories built this way. These have a solar-powered fan to force the air through the waste; air is sucked down through the lavatory, through the sewage, which is kept dry, and then vented out a chimney at the top. No water needed. No power needed. No maintenance needed, except for someone to come and clean the human-accessable bits every now and then. In fact, you can make money out of them --- the processed sewage is top-grade fertiliser.

    2. Re:food waste breeds vermin. by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Informative
      IIRC, a while back Consumer Reports (who tend to be "environmentally conscious") said it was a Good Thing to grind up food scraps in the garbage disposal. This way, it ends up back in the biosphere instead of entombed in a hermetically sealed landfill taking up space that would be better be used by junked computers. Since the garbage disposal is easy and fun, I'm signed up for that.

      As for composting, that leaves us with leaves. My municipal government's website suggests: "Try running them over with a mulching mower". Since I got a shiny new mulching mower this year, I tried it. My verdict: kick ass. Easy and fun; and no more raking. Leaves are shredded to tiny confetti that sinks into the grass. (As long as you don't let them build up too much between mowings.)

      So now, I don't throw out any biomass, and I don't have to break my back tending to piles of dirt.

    3. Re:food waste breeds vermin. by qengho · · Score: 3, Interesting

      a Good Thing to grind up food scraps in the garbage disposal. This way, it ends up back in the biosphere

      Many years ago Asimov wrote an essay about phosphorus, calling it "life's bottleneck". I can't find the essay online but here's a brief piece that discusses it.

      "...phosphorus leaches from our soils, is removed from the land in the crops we harvest, and flows down our drains whenever we use phosphorus-rich detergents or flush the commode (phosphorus was in the land, then in the agricultural crop we ate, the phosphorus passed through us, and now we're flushing it away...) and phosphorus ends up flowing into our streams and rivers and ultimately to the oceans. There it settles into mud and is not returned to the land except by geological processes requiring millions of years."

      Disposals might not be such a good idea after all.

  25. I used to grow my pot in compost! by Newer+Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It grew well..nice sticky buds... and somehow it just seemed to make sense...mother earth's weed grown in mother earth's compost. Oh, those were the days!

  26. Parent is not "informative," parent is "Wrong" by Jeremiah+Blatz · · Score: 3, Informative
    Who cares about the compost getting wet when it rains? So long as the drainage is fairly good, a bit of rain won't hurt
    Wet compost is bad. Compost must be moist in order to work. Wet compost gets moldy, mold is bad. (See below)
    It looks like it is sitting in the sun. That's going to really stink in the summer. Instead of being a nice place friendly mold/fungi/insects to hang out, it is just going to attact wasps and roaches in the summer.
    Heat is good. The bacteria that make compost go like heat. The mold and fungus make stuff smell bad, they don't particularly like it hot. (Warm, yes. Hot, no.)
    How do the worms get in? Worms really help to make good compost. They mix it around, while eating much nasty bacteria.
    Worm composting is an entirely different process from bacterial composting. Worm composting has its good points (like it gives you non-smelly organic fertilizer [aka worm pee]), but it's a lot harder than regualr composting.
    Not that I'm an expert in composting or anything.
    You have made that much abundantly clear.