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Slashback: Mutuality, Transport, Spyware

Slashback with more unintentionally odd clip art in Microsoft work for fire, Las Vegas monorail progress, the resolution of SonicBlue and TiVo's legal dispute, and more. Read on for the details.

Well, while we were switching things around here at the ad agency ... An anonymous reader writes "While looking around on Microsoft's site checking out the new Tablet PCs I noticed something very out of Place. In one of their Flash Demos for the Tablet PC there is an Apple Powerbook 1400! To see it for yourself, the flash is located here (then "Tablet PC Overview Demo," then "Tablet PC," then "Powerful") The first computer is really that Powerbook! Pic here."

What about to the legal brothels? Sacarino writes "Back in April, Slashdot ran a story about the Monorail project Las Vegas was embarking upon. It would appear that things are progressing nicely. "It's ugly" critics will be put to shame, the designers did a great job of making it non-obtrusive. (if that's possible in Vegas) Soon you too will pile off the airplane, trudge onto the monorail, then run into the casino to spend that money....ahh, Vegas."

Out of court, out of mind. Enry writes "SONICblue and TiVo have dropped the patent infringement lawsuits they filed against each other. The press release reads: "We believe our energies are better spent expanding the market for Digital Video Recorders (DVRs) rather than fighting each other. Both sides believe in the merits of their respective positions, but the overall success of the DVR category is what is most important to the companies at this time." Take that, AdAge!"

Sounds like a nice way to watch movies. For those intrigued by a 640x480, QWERTY-keyboard color, clamshell-case PDA as embodied by the Zaurus 5600, patrickoehlinger writes "Just found news and pictures about the new Sharp Zaurus SL-C700 released in Japan. With a 640 x 480 pixel display, a small design and a great keyboard! Golem.de has a article with pictures, but it's in German."

Would the BBC spy on you? An anonymous reader writes "The previous discussion on RedSheriff on slashdot was extremely confusing as well as mostly off-topic. The fact is, the BBC is downloading spyware to your machine when you surf their site. Very disappointing and surprising. I suggest e-mailing them to let them know what you think. The problem and remedies are covered in Google groups: "

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  1. BBC and spyware by Slashdotess · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, it's unfortunate but a lot more sites are doing that, as far as I can see. I always get gator popups here at sparknotes for example and it's a pain to click no all the time.

    Well, I guess my 2 cents wont get very far =/

    1. Re:BBC and spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      An extremely effective solution I've found is to set up Internet Junkbuster proxy (at http://www.junkbuster.com/ijb.html) on your own computer. On Windows systems, you can have it run as a service. Have your web browser use the proxy, and whenever you see an annoying ad, just add it to the blockfile. The proxy automatically rereads the block file if it's updated while it's running, so changes take effect immediately. Just a couple seconds ago, it blocked a potential x-10 ad :P

    2. Re:BBC and spyware by doorbot.com · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you used Mozilla on your Windows box you wouldn't have that problem... I just tried it for myself and no popups or Gator installs.

    3. Re:BBC and spyware by Moonshadow · · Score: 5, Informative
      The Proxomitron is another such solution, and offers such nifty features such as inline ad filtering/right-click unlocking/prevention of annoying javascript/anything else you can do with a regex. Definintely a recommended tool.

      Strangely enough, though, I've been using Phoenix for a while now, and have had no problem with popups. :D

    4. Re:BBC and spyware by mrbuttle · · Score: 2, Informative

      The last official release from Junkbusters Co. was in 1998. You may want to take a look at Privoxy . It's Junkbuster rebuilt, with many new features, at version 3.0 and a release date of Aug 28 2002. It's available in most of the favorite flavors

  2. PowerBook: isn't it obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    They just want to make a point that what you can do with their stuff (turn screen backwards) you can't with a PowerBook!!

  3. Redsheriff by dolo666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is a link to Redsheriff's privacy policy, cached on google (just in case).

    1. Re:Redsheriff by dolo666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is a link to the Redsherrif removal info.

  4. Re:detection and removal of redsherrif by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  5. Re:detection and removal of redsherrif by VS1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    its a java applet, called RedSheriff. check your firewall logs. i found the google discussion group to be quite informative. and ad-aware dosnt find it, so says the googel discussion that was posted with the story.

    good luck.

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  6. Can't read German? by saskboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try Babelfish for translation so you can read about PDAs. I don't use PDAs with built in keyboards, but someone else might find the article interesting.

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  7. BBC privacy policy by elvum · · Score: 5, Informative

    The BBC mentions their use of RedSheriff in their privacy policy. RedSheriff have their own privacy policy.

  8. From the RedSheriff website.. by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    They seem to work for a lot of people...

    Founded in 1996, RedSheriff is an industry leader in interactive measurement technologies and market research. We provide specialized products and services that enable you to accurately assess your company's performance in the constantly evolving digital environment.

    RedSheriff measures in 37 countries through regional offices in Melbourne, Sydney, Auckland, Brisbane, Singapore, Tokyo, London, Copenhagen, Milan, Los Angeles, San Francisco and headquarters in New York. We also have strategic partnerships with several major industry players including the AGB Group, Taylor Nelson Sofres Gallup, and Video Research.

    Our client base includes key global players such as BT LookSmart, Excite, Excite@Home, News Interactive, F2 Interactive, Scandinavia Online, Monster.com, MTV, NineMSN.com, Virgin Direct, Virgin, Genie Internet, Asia World Online, Charles Schwab and Telstra.

    Our strategic investment partners include Deutsche European Partners, Ericsson-Deutsche Technology Fund, WPP, Australasian Media and Communication Fund, and Equity Partners.

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  9. Zaurus pics by sakusha · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the home page of the new Zaurus model (Japanese only)

    http://www.sharp.co.jp/products/slc700/index.htm l

    I surfed around, looks like this unit has cool GPS maps available, that's the most interesting app I found.

  10. Sony's SL-C700 Site (Translated) by infernow · · Score: 2, Informative
    Here's Sony's site (translated from japanese) on the SL-C700:

    You'll have to click the Translate button, but hey, deal with it.

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  11. Re:Sharp Zaurus SL-C700 by HamNRye · · Score: 3, Informative

    try http://dynamism.com. Not a plug! I haven't ordered from them, just browsed. Lik-Sang (http://lik-sang.com) has some other things, but tends to focus on Video Games.

  12. Mozilla Immune? by ewhac · · Score: 4, Informative

    From reading the USENET commentary on Google Groups, it seems like RedSheriff only works on Microsoft's broken virtual machine that ships with Windows. It appears that, if you install Sun's JVM, the problem doesn't arise (or at least alerts the user). This would also seem to suggest that Mozilla is immune, since they have their own JVM, yes?

    Yet another reason to avoid IE, I suppose.

    Schwab

    1. Re:Mozilla Immune? by EMR · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mozilla/Netscape 6/7 uses sun's JVM..
      And the code gets applet gets loaded in a popup anyway..
      so it doesn't load in mozilla if you enable the popup blocker..:-D
      But yeah.. it's an M$ IE Messed up JVM thing..

  13. No legal brothels in Las Vegas, sorry... by weave · · Score: 5, Informative
    A common misunderstanding is that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas. It's not. It's only legal in counties where the population is less than 400,000 -- which is all Nevada counties except for two. One is Clark County where Las Vegas sits, the other is where Reno is.

    Sorry, you'll just have to drive out to the ole ranch there ya city slicker!

  14. Re:Las Vegas Monorail SUCKS! by weave · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ah, you must be talking about that toy monorail that goes between, what is it, caesars and bellagio? It actually is more like a cable car, gets pulled back and forth on a fixed cable....

  15. Re:detection and removal of redsherrif by Merkins · · Score: 4, Informative
    I don't understand what this java applet is supposed to do. Is is supposed to stay in memory and watch you as you surf other sites? I don't see how it can

    It doesn't stay in memory. It just loads up on every page of the site that is using it and sends back details like referers and time spent between pages back to Red Sherrif. Red Sherrif are basically an Internet market research company.

    So, while it does track usage on the BBC site as well as any other Red Sherrif client sites, it isn't the same as something like Gator which will hang around on your PC and do other nasty stuff in the background.

    There is another company that do it (although maybe they have merged now) called IMR Worldwide.

  16. Re:Powermac too by tupps · · Score: 3, Informative

    It could actually be one of the 7200/7500/7600/BeigeG3DT machines. They were all in exactly the same form factor, all with the floppy drives in the same places. See here: http://www.apple-history.com/quickgallery.html?whe re=7600.html I am not 100% sure but I would nearly say that there are no Apple desktops with the floppy drive below the CD ROM drive.

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  17. Re:Downloading by Narcissus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree, especially when the historical definition of "download" infers moving data from a large machine to a PC (despite who initiated the act). Which is exactly what is happening in this instance.

    Well, according to the Jargon file, anyway...

  18. Re:redsheriff and Java VM sandbox by jon_eaves · · Score: 5, Informative

    They're not.

    It's a Java applet that's like a cgi traced image. It's used for user tracking. It's not any more sinister than WebTrends or any of the other post-processing tools.

    Caveat: I worked for the company that wrote the first version of this software that was used by Red Sheriff.

  19. Facts wrong on Zaurus 5600 by happynut · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Zaurus 5600 is 320x240 (1/4vga), not 640x480 as
    stated in the slashback.

    The C700 *is* 640x480.

  20. Re:It reveals how you got to the BBC site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Umm, that part where it writes an applet tag into the document might be a clue :) The applet tag embeds an applet into the page. As such, it can dynamically load the Java applet into your browser.

    As to what this new program does, I have no idea. I haven't learned just what it does/how it works yet...

  21. Re:"downloading to"? by Phroggy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Last I checked, the BBC would be UPLOADING software to your machine. You would be the one downloading it. God I'm sick of people misusing that word.

    Originally "download" meant transfer from a large mainframe to a small client, while "upload" meant transfer from a small client to a large mainframe - regardless of which end initiated the transfer.

    However, since a mainframe wouldn't be likely to initiate a transfer, normally downloading = receiving, and uploading = sending. These became the new meanings of the words.

    So yes, the meanings have changed, but understand that some people haven't caught on yet. Go easy on them.

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  22. Seattle monorail wins vote by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    Not by much, but a win, unless there's a problem and a recount. That will be a 14-mile system, biggest in North America.
  23. Re:The REAL SONICBlue question is... by JabberWokky · · Score: 3, Informative
    The NASDAQ formally announced that they are reconsidering their dollar rule a week or two ago. Back in the 90s it seemed like a great idea. Now an appreciable chunk of stocks (not just tech stocks) are under $1. So many exceptions have been approved and extentions given that it's not really working as a "blanket" rule.

    Heard it on Morning Edition.

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  24. Re:Las Vegas Monorail SUCKS! by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was in Las Vegas this past summer. Whoever designed that monorail was completely incompetent! The doors and cars were too small, so when a handicapped person (and there's a lot of those in Las Vegas) got on, attendants had to go in and move seats around. This took about 20 minutes, which is ridiculous. And then the thing starts moving, and I keep waiting for it to speed up, but it keeps plodding along at snail pace. I could have walked to the one destination stop in less time. Thanks for wasting my time, monorail designers.

    The Disney World monorail is so much better.


    Hmmm...then you weren't on the actual monorail, but the crappy shuttle. The current monorail uses Bombardier Mark IV monorail cars that were actually acquired from Disney World.

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  25. Re:detection and removal of redsherrif by jon_eaves · · Score: 4, Informative
    IMR Worldwide was called Sofres IMR (and a bunch of other names I can't remember) and has changed their name to RedSheriff.

    The software used to be called WebMeasure, and now to maintain corporate branding it's "RedMeasure"

    This stuff has been around for just ages. I was part of the company that wrote this software for them originally. It has been around since 1997/98 however it's just started to be used by more people It's nothing more than a slightly sophisticated cookie, and if you don't trust my word for it, download it and decompile it.

    I just looked at the Beebs source code from their home page and it's exactly the same as it was back then.

    Anyway, here's the source code. Check for yourself. (Thanks to DJ's decompiler) It's doing nothing more than sending the duration of the time on a particular page.

    For the non-appleted amongst us, start() occurs when the page is loaded, stop() occurs when the page is left.

    Grrrrr, frigging lameness filter stopped me from posting the source. Anyway, get it from here.