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The Significance of Anime

angkor writes "'More Animated than Life' - Fascinating article discussing the significance of animation to the Japanese and why it is not what Westerners expect."

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  1. Why Anime? by Q3vi1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many Americans find anime a lot more appealing than a lot of stuff on TV because anime isn't as constrained by the American Standard that effects many of the popular programming.
    I watch anime constantly, always on top of the latest fansubbed releases, picking up the DVDs of series that are especially good and make it to North America. I support the full circle of anime, and all of the fruit it bears.
    Of it all, I've met new people, made some good friends, and experience a whole culture that I would have otherwise been completely oblivious to. I find anime to be informative, entertaining, and especially enjoyable.

    1. Re:Why Anime? by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is true, I like anime for that reason as well. Difference is that I am a European and from my point of view Japanese material is a good alternative to the flood of US made Formula films and sitcoms that we are drowning in over here. Dont get me wrong, I am not against American TV material, some of it is really good. I like the New Star Trek series, Six Feet under, Farscape and of course FUTURAMA. But too much of the US stuff is just mass manufactured blurb without caracter. Kind of a visual counterpart to the infamous "Replicator food" they are always complaining about on the Enterprise. These Anime films make a great change in the monotony of bad sitcoms and action films. I wish more original programming like this would find its way onto my television screen. Definetly more Asian material and perhaps some E-European material as well and not just Anime mind you but regular films and series as well.

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  2. slashcache.org! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Two comments and the link (and possibly an intercontinental internet pipe) has been slashdotted!

    The question of a cache should not be met with a vague grumbling about "content owner permission" rights.

    Stop being so damned irresponsible! Cache the complete first page of any linked articles!

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    (2) share that through a peer-to-peer system such as bittorrent.

    It would work. Everyone would win - slashdot readers and linked sites. AND it would be a Genuinely Good Use(tm) for the peer to peer tech.

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    Bittorrent: It's seriously underappreciated, and - the part I love - it ONLY shares the CURRENT FILE that you're downloading. As soon as you close the "file download" box when your download is done, you drop out of the peer to peer network that was made specifically for that file. It is neat.

  3. Overanalyzation by FooBarWidget · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "One should also note that Rei has blue hair and red eyes ?rather remarkable traits for a Japanese girl!!"
    Uhm... unnatural hair colors like purple, blue, white and green look nice. That's it, they look nice. No need to think about *why* they chose that color, it just looks nice!

    I think the author of the article is overanalyzing things.

  4. Amazingly misinformed article... by ookaze · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, I'm used to read such nonsense from people which don't know a thing about anime. It's really sad.
    The article is seriously stupid, and the author doesn't know a thing !
    Point by point :
    - Yes, Yamato was a shift in anime, but it didn't cause a boom : the boom was a long time before 1977, and that's why Yamato came. The major thing Yamato changed, was in the songs used in anime. Before Yamato, there were 5 assigned singers (3 men, 2 women) for anime (I remember some names like Mizuki Ichirou, Kooro Gi, and of course the great Horie Mitsuko). Since the Yamato film, which used pop artists, every anime started to use people whose it was the job to sing :)
    - A lot of anime were indeed adult and successful before 1977, Yamato being one of them. The guy is sickening now...
    - Nausicaa was NOT a big success ! Nausicaa was renowned among anime fans, that's true. Miyazaki didn't overturn anything. Toei made more bucks with his films than those of Miyazaki, until Mononoke. Miyazaki started to be a success in Japan since Mononoke Hime, when more money was put on ads. Only anime fans reverred Miyazaki well before that time.
    - The gold years of anime where the 80s, NOT 90s ! 90s where the decline, and then, the end of cellulo. It seems to be going back nowadays.
    - this guy clearly doesn't know a thing about animation : the biggest mistake he makes is the same 99% of people do. He takes it all backwards, thinking anime is a subset of live movie. But it's the other way : live movie is the simplest and less powerful animation : it's limited to still images of reality, and not even perfect images at that. That's why there was always the need to blend special effects or other forms of animation (like CG) in live action films, because it's too limited. On the other hand, drawn animation is the most powerful of animation (the only limit is your imagination and skills), but as such, the most difficult to master. Some people I know who study animation don't even know when live animation started to be predominant, but I think one of the reason was that it looked more real ! Remember the Frères Lumières and their first show :)
    - The only thing that made people think that animation is for children is Dysney !!!! Animation, in the start, was NOT considered for children !!! It was for adults, were presented in theater, and even served as propaganda during war ! Sone like this guy saying anime was for children principally is a cretin which doesn't even know history... And to add to the bad things Dysney have done, they shut down every other animation (be it japanese or from east Europe), threatening festivals were they were broadcasted, from the start until now. But I guess a lot of people do not know that, taht was the goal. They even continue nowadays.
    - Anime can be as, even more convincing than live. But a lot of the performance is dependent on the voice actors. The "fleshy presence" is a nonsense. Anime can be more powerful than any live. You can't dismiss the power of pictures because they are not taken from "reality". Sone tell this guy that horror or porn in anime can not be shown to small kids : even without "flesh" presence, the subjective power is still stronger than anything. Imagination has always been more powerful than reality.
    - The guy is stuck on "visual realism". That is, he can't even understand animation, as "visual realism" is only one feature of live animation. You can not judge anime by "visual realism", that's not one of it's features, though you can put such pictures in anime (it has even been done already). The purpose of anime is to present sth, not to be "realist".
    - Another common pitfall. The author himself falls in it without even knowing. One of the power of anime, is that you can more easily identify yourself to a character. I mean, a japanese, looking at an anime character, will see a japanese. And an european will see an european, an american will see an american (except if it's too "realistic"). That's why the guy doesn't see a japanese in the characters. And the eyes have nothing to do with nationality : look at Tintin !
    Or think that nobody has so wide round open eyes as you can see sometimes, or has blue or pink hairs :) And then I read nonsense about asians not beinat advantages on screens : very sad to read such stupid things...
    - The author apparently comes from the "caste" of people which rejects Japan history. All japanese are not among this group, and there is conflict, even in manga, on the subject. This turns into politics after that, and I'm tired already of this guy. Surely, I don't love all japanese (and surely not this one)...