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Incredible Images of the Sun

shelterit writes "A new swedish telescope facility in La Palma uses a new technology to remove the blurriness of the atmosphere to snap new and astonishingly sharp images of the sun. Want to have a closer look at the surface of it? Reminds me of paintings I did as a kid."

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  1. GIFs??? by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What in the world are they thinking putting them up as 3MB GIFs? I understand the need for super accuracy for some purposes, hence the need for lossless TIFFs, but there should be JPEGs for people who don't need perfect reproductions: The smooth gradients lend themselves to JPEG compression.

    1. Re:GIFs??? by teridon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a JPEG.

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  2. The sun?! Where?! by Henriok · · Score: 5, Funny

    I live in Sweden and I haven't seen the sun for ages. If my calendar is correct.. i might see the sun again in 3-4 months time. I really don't know if I can stand it that long.

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    1. Re:The sun?! Where?! by Myco · · Score: 5, Funny
      Not only do you live in Sweden, but you post on Slashdot. No wonder you never see the sun.

      Of course, I also live in Sweden and post on Slashdot, so I know that of which I speak.

  3. Also on MSNBC by Alcazar · · Score: 5, Informative

    MSNBC posted this article last night http://www.msnbc.com/news/834647.asp It might be more reachable...

  4. re Paintings as a kid by Sad+Loser · · Score: 5, Funny

    you obviously didn't live in the UK then. My paintings always had that 'grey sky' look.

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  5. Re:Hmm by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    While this new system works great for the visible spectrum of the Sun's output, you still want a space-based observatory to monitor the Sun's output in the other parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. That's why satellites like SOHO are still important.

  6. Buried in the site by dubbayu_d_40 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Took me awhile to find out how it works. In a nutshell: "The adaptive mirror actually changes shape 1000 times a second in order to adjust for the rapidly changing blurring of the image. Finally, we are using techniques to further sharpen the images after they have been captured by electronic cameras. In the best images the resolution is close to 0.1 arcseconds. This is a factor of 1200 better than 20/20 vision."

  7. I see by djweis · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can't fool us, that's really one of van Gogh's sunflower paintings.

  8. Appology by InsaneCreator · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sunset will be canceled tonight, due to the slashdotting of the sun.

  9. Summer Fun by nukey56 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you look real close on that image, a little to the left of the giant black spot, you can just about see the Old Navy crew in their cargo shorts. Glad to know that advertisement worked.

  10. another link by tanveer1979 · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case the above site gets roasted, space.com also has pics and article.
    This article has the links.You can also zoom in and use the viewer.

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  11. Just what we need by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    We've been to the moon, and Mars will be next, followed by Venus, but what will we do when we've run out of planets? Clearly the option is the Sun.

    Photos like these will show us where the potential landing sites are. Very useful since the lander will have to find somewhere that's not only flat but free of excessive RF noise so that we can communicate with Earth.

    So, obviously, someone will ask - How can we possible build something to get to the sun? Well, this is quite simple, Firstly we use regrigeration devices. These will require some considerable energy, as well as a decent fusion power source to keep them going. Secondly, we avoif reflective surfaces. The other thing to remember is that we only need to travel during the night. During the day is when the sun is hottest, so travel at night should help cool us considerably. This will require better propulsion mechanisms that can do the bulk of the travelling in the 12 hours of night.

  12. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The images are slashdotted, so I've provided a mirror. Go outside (that's through the door over there, pale face) and look up.

  13. Re:Hmm by teridon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    On the contrary:

    The filaments' newly revealed dark cores are seen to be thousands of kilometers long but only about 100 kilometers wide. Resolving features 100 kilometers wide or less is a milestone in solar astronomy and has been achieved here using sophisticated adaptive optics, digital image stacking, and processing techniques to counter the blurring effect of Earth's atmosphere. At optical wavelengths, these images are sharper than even current space-based solar observatories can produce.

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  14. mirror! by caveat · · Score: 5, Informative

    well, at least the closeup of a sunspot and one of the filaments. but please be nice, it's a new powermac, i don't want it melted just yet :P

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  15. Site is slow -- here's the content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here are the images from the site -- a picture of the Sun:

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    Hope that helps to beat the Slashdotting.

  16. Wow...that went fast. by Mac+Degger · · Score: 5, Funny

    site's burnt already...looks like that's what you get for staring into the sun.

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  17. Adaptive Optics by Hawaiian+Lion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The technology used by this telescope to counter the effects of the atmosphere in measurements is called adaptive optics. This is the first application I know of for adaptive optics on a solar telescope.

    This technology has been around for awhile, and was first seriously developed by the military at the Starfire Optical Range .

    Recently it has been used in such telescope projects as the WM Keck Observatory and Gemini Project . I know AO is also used for measurement of eye aberrations, with projects being conducted at several Universities. For more information about Adaptive Optics, I suggest the Center for Adaptive Optics

    My personal experience with AO was as an intern for Gemini this past summer. I helped write parallel code for a program that simulates current and future adaptive optics systems planned for the next generation of extremely large telescopes.

  18. GIFs quite common in sat imaging by CharlieO · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From my days doing Earth Observation Science (EOS) I recall that a lot of satellite imaging, whether astronomical or remote sensing, seemed to follow a de-facto standard of a 512 x 512 x 8bit image tile per channel on the instrument.

    GIFs were often used because it is a very stable way of doing lossless compression at 8bit, stable as in almost any image program can read them.

    This is not the case with TIFFs as there are a number of variants and options in the file format.

    TIFFs are however a better medium for storage of composite images, either spatially or spectorally (montages or multichannel pseudo colour in english).

    Due to its general lack of use as a data storage format most of the tools I used/wrote to proccess image data files generally did not have JPEG support or other common 'display' options as the file is regarded as data, not an image - its a subtle difference but explains the mindset.

    When I published stuff on the web I'd run our raw large images through Photoshop to get pleasing images but compact file sizes.

    It may not have occured for them to do this, and anyway they may regard this as publishing data for other interested parties to download and process themselves.

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  20. Re:Hubble? by teridon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because Hubble is not designed to point at the sun. Thermally, Hubble was designed so that one side of the telescope is always pointed towards the sun. For thermally stability it must always remain that way. Are you going to personally replace Hubble's primary mirror when it cracks due to solar heating?

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  21. Re:Look at art! by JimPooley · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course there's a face in the sun. Have you never seen 'Teletubbies'?

    Seriously though, this is just another example of how the human brain is hot-wired to see faces in everything - even a colon, a dash and a bracket.

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  22. Re:Cooling question by Squeak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Increasing the aperture of a telescope has two effects:
    More light is collected. (Since astronomical telescopes are usually used to look at dim objects this is normally considered an advantage.)
    To reduce the diffraction effects and so increase the spatial resolution.

    When observing the sun, the second of these is still required but the first is a problem. The sun provides too much light, especially in the infrared, to observe safely.
    The solution is to place a filter over the front of the telescope which cuts down the amount of light entering the scope. This reduction generally needs to be of the order of 1:1,000,000.
    Filters at the back end of the telescope, directly in front of the eyepiece/camera, are not safe. All the heat from the sun passes the scope through and is focused through this small filter. They can then easily crack or melt.

    Safety notice: The only safe filters for observing the sun are those designed for the job. They are usually thin plastic, sometimes glass, with a metal coating on both sides. Always check the filter is firmly fixed in place and has no scratches or pinholes. It is this filter type which was used in the eclipse safety glasses a few years back. When observing by eye, with no telescope, binoculars or other magnification, welder's No 14 glass or fully exposed and developed black and white film negatives are also safe. (Not colour film or b&w film developed with a colour process - it is the deposited metallic silver used in the b&w process which provides the protection.) NOTHING else is considered safe.

    You can get cooled CCD cameras, and the astrophotographical community has been using them for years. (Well, those than can afford them anyway.) The cooling is required to reduce the 'dark current' within the camera itself during long exposures, not to remove incoming heat.

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  23. Mom always told you to not look into the Sun.. by sielwolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Hmmm, neat let me open up these images here..." *Click* "Ahhh! My Eyes!!!!!!"

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  24. OH NO!!!! by LoudMusic · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Sun is on FIRE!!!! We're doooooooooooommmmeeddd!!!!!

    If only we had known this before, maybe we could have done something about it!

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