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taktile writes "I started the project about a week and a half ago after learning about Apple's ASCIIMoviePlayer. QuickASCII is an Open Source project to add improvements to Apple's player."
Another user writes, "There is a small group collaboration program called iStorm that is out. It anyone gets tired of severely delayed collaboration over the Internet, maybe he should try an almost telepathic experience with this program."
ludeyork writes "I just saw that BBEdit 7.0 has been released and it's got great new features." It's very cool, and by cool, I mean totally sweet. The CVS integration is worth the upgrade for me.
yuck72 writes "Apple has just released version 5.2 of its WebObjects application server. Improvements include better J2EE integration, easy tools for building SOAP-based web services and Java Webstart support. Applications can be deployed on any machine with a Java 1.3.1 compliant JVM. Apple's 'best-kept secret' really deserves more attention than it currently gets considering that it plays in the same league as Websphere and Weblogic." Oops, maybe I should have given it its own story.
...how nice to hear a passel of good news, satisified customers, etc. -- and in the computer industry! OMG.
Thanks for the good vibes. All this carping about Microsoft and the evil spying government gives us indigestion. (It's merely a question of proportions in the "omelette.")
SFTP access. I use dreamweaver and golive and both cannot connect to a CVS or SFTP based server.
I know there are third party tools but I want the whole thing integrated.
If BB has it i'm dropping Dreamweaver and GoLive, if it doesn't it's wait as usual. Since I didn't see it I guess I'll keep waiting.
if webobjects apps can run on J2EE servers... is WebObjects an application framework and development environment for J2EE applications?
reech bee-yond ur clip-0n
Looking at the extensive feature list of BBEdit, it's kinda ironic that it's produced by Bare Bones Software...
i'll probably get flamed for this, but i'm running
quickascii entrapment.mov
from the quickascii directory, with entrapment.mov in the same directory, and getting the following error - "quickascii: Command not found."
help?
moox. for a new generation.
I use WinSCP in windows and Putty and they work great. The command line ssh/sftp works fine in os x but like I said i'm looking for all GUI, preferably integrated with my coding environment.
However these look like good alternatives so I'll try them out. The frustrating thing is after buying MX Studio and the design collection (came with golive 6) it's sad they don't include this one small piece of functionality when they have so much shitty bloat in their applications.
...what I really need is a program that allows my boss and I to collaborate on user support documentation. For this to happen, I need to be able to set it to display whatever "improvements" he makes on his screen, but somehow fail to apply those changes to the actual document. I'd pay a lot for such a bug. =)
welcome to the command line :-)
And to think, all it took to get you using the command line was a movie player for a terminal. Maybe you're just meant to be a GUI kind of guy?
Hey, will quickascii find it's way into emacs like 50% of the rest of the code in the known universe?
This isn't a troll. It's a serious concern.
You moderators are so uptight.
These problems are real.
For web development my tools are BBEdit, MacCVS Pro 2.7b2, and Transmit 1.7b2. It goes without saying that BBEdit is by far the best editor in any class for making dynamic web sites involving PHP, perl, shell scripts, and SQL. The way I usually work is to maintain my local repository with MacCVS, edit with BBEdit, and use Transmit to FTP files to the remote development servers for testing.
...And then dismiss the modal dialog.
I've been using BBEdit 7 for about a day, especially testing out the CVS integration. It's really good, but there are some things I miss about MacCVS Pro.
- BBEdit lacks tag, edit, and watch commands.
- Although you can do some CVS operations in the BBEdit File Browser (and File Groups) you can't do certain operations when multiple files are selected (including "commit file" oddly).
- BBEdit doesn't show the status of files in the file browser, file groups, or in window headers. The only way to get revision information is to "Get CVS Status" and read a modal dialog.
- BBEdit's CVS operations tend to be slower than MacCVS, or seem so, because MacCVS is robustly threaded. BBEdit puts up modal "wait" dialogs every single time it has to contact the remote CVS server.
- If you're going to do secure CVS BBEdit requires you to set up one of SSH's auto-authentication methods (The whole "ssh-keygen -t dsa" rigamarole). Once the authentication is set up BBEdit's CVS integration is compatible with MacCVS, and the combination is much better than either one by itself.
- On the positive side, BBEdit's diff function was meant to be integrated with CVS. (BBEdit does the diff itself without using CVS's diff command.)
The geeks at BareBones have done a great job so far. They're doing the right thing by adding new features gradually, releasing just what works. Obviously they don't want to turn their editor into bloatware. Being able to checkin or diff without leaving BBEdit is a great bonus. If they are able to make BBEdit more threaded and add CVS features to the File Browser (and make it hierarchical for goodness sake!) I might finally be able to give up MacCVS Pro.
But not yet.
-- thinkyhead software and media
Ok, you can use WO in collaboration with the J2EE way of doing things. They have built in support for tomcat etc. I haven't used it, and you shouldn't either, though.
You see, WebObjects predates the web by a couple years-- it started out as EOF and enterirpise object foundation that allows you to deal with any RDMS as objects. When the web came about they added a webfrontend, and really did it right (The WOF).
Here's an example. I could create all of the functionality of slashdot, from scratch, including users, moderation, friend/foe, story posting, etc. in about 3 weeks. FROM SCRATCH. Oh, and it would have a hell of a lot better performance and scalability than slasdot has now.
When you want to list the comments on a story, that is merely a query on the DB passed to a repeating object, which has a template in HTML, and thus you have story comments- 20 minutes of work. The query handles ranking, the links are automagically generated, etc.
It simply is the easiest, most effective, and best product ever put out by Apple or anyone in the web applications / database backed website space.
It looses, just like the Mac did, because its competition is very difficult to implement, requires consultants, and the sell the $5 million with consultants included solution, and so everybody tries to sell that cause they get a huge markup. (And the companies that uses htese products never can get their sites updated in time, and thus we had part of what caused the dot-com crash.)
If you're doing any kind of a dynamic or DB backed website, you should learn WO-- at $700 its cheaper than anything that's not free, and if you include your time, its still a LOT cheaper than the free stuff.
It really is the best kept secret in apple's product line.
Yeah, and you guys panned the ipod too: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23
Every single one of these "problems" is an area where pc weenies are stupid and sadled with a worse solution, but they THINK its better! And so they complain and complain and complain and complain.
Yeah, and you guys panned the ipod too: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23
BBEdit 7.0 is $180. You can download BBEdit Lite and be eligible for the $120 "crossover" purchase, but still... Would you rather pay $120 or finally learn how to use emacs? I guess it depends on how much you make per hour.
Check out the excellent MacSFTP or Transmit. With either you can make an SFTP connect and then open text files in BBEdit. Very easy, reliable, secure, and all works together seamlessly (as if they were one program).
I live in MacSFTP and BBEdit all day.
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One button mouse.
Keyboards that none wants to use.
Paying for every service pack.
Overpriced hardware.
Mac zealots that hink that PCs only run Windows 95.
Slow processors.
Plunging share price.
Slow software updates.
Poor market share.
Bloated GUI.
Grinning idiots on Apple's homepage.
What about windoze problems?
* Inability to realise you can buy multi-button mice for $10.
* Keyboards with thousands of proprietry keys from thousands of manufacturers (a "check email" key, I mean really!).
* Having to deal with a buggy, broken OS that seems to develop more security holes with each patch applied.
* Inability to realise that 10.1 to 10.2 is like windoze 95 > windows 98. M$ didn't give you a copy of thier peice of shit OS for free did they?
* Users caught in the myth that a 50 GHz processor is useless if the rest of your hardware is rubbish.
* I don't own shares in Apple
* How does lower market share affect my productivity/enjoyment of Apple?
* Crayola GUI in latest OS. Bears more than a passing resemblance to a certain other OS with an X in the name. Copying again M$? tch tch.
* Stock photo idiots on M$'s homepage (remember M$'s supposed "switch" ad?)
* Having to use your own employees to promote your OS in a fake switch ad, since no one else will.
* Lacking a nice Unix core that has proved very useful to me in OSX.
Oh, and one last thing.
* Digital Rights Removal, errr, Digital Restrictions Management, err, no sorry Digital Rights Management.
I actually use a G4 and Mac OS X 10.2 every workday.
Got a MS optical mouse.
The keyboard is okay (others think they are smaller than the older mac keyboards??!)
I don't have to do the paying.
Dual 866 processors is quite fast.
The gui is still a tad slow I need more RAM.
I didn't actually know the share price.
I still hate the grinning idiots though.
Yep I use Terminal and emacs all the time.
You fell for my flame. Ha. Sucker.
...you MS goons can spread this hype all you want, but your day will come. The is simply another marketing wank working for MS, painting yet another ill-concieved picture of FUD. Guess you missed the news about how this kind of AC trash talk is backfiring?
You are right, sorry about possibly being harsh. English is only my second language, so it might happen I do not pick up the exact weight of certain words. Your post was probably right, but what you could tell at that time was wrong. :) Is this something we can agree upon?
I'm using 6.5.3 on OS X for all my web and text editor needs and it ROCKS. It was the one reason I didn't stay with linuxppc a few years ago, before OS X (and before mac-on-linux was all that mature). I had debian and yellowdog running on 3 different machines (not to mention slackware on a pentium), but I could never get the hang of emacs. Everyone (except vi users, of course) told me how great it was and how I could make it do everything bbedit did if I wanted but I never learned enough to figure out how to make that work for me. With OS X I feel like I have the best of both worlds, everything I wanted from UNIX plus the easy (for me) to understand interface of the Mac. The bbedit command line tools are a great addition that it looks like are vastly improved in BBEdit 7.
Damn; that sounded like a switch commercial, sorry. If it makes you feel any better, I never had emacs go BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP....
My one beef with BBEdit is it doesn't support hypertext internally. That was a cool feature of Alpha, which will soon be out for os x. I am waiting for alphaX so I can play with that feature. I work with large quantities of text documents (not always HTML but easily converted) and it would be great to have an easy way to navigate them in a primitive web browser like lynx or whatever but internal to bbedit so I don't have to switch to mozilla every time. Which of course doesn't word-wrap when you're looking at text files which is annoying if you actually want to read them rather than just edit code.
But on the brighter side, back when I first ordered bbedit (version 3 I think it was, something like $50 at educational pricing) they sent me a free "Software That Doesn't Suck" T-shirt.