Yep, here's an Example
by
Anenga
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· Score: 5, Insightful
OpenOffice recently asked the P2P community to help out in distributing it's massive install file over their networks.
It's now on Gnutella2.
magnet:?xt=urn:bitprint:S5Q756FJ7326XXDGA7KZBF25 PC RWCT7Y.XKR2LGSL2K3DR4CTE5H5PDZGQCZOKN2NJWOOQHQ&dn= OOo_1.0.1_Win32Intel_install.zip
I get 15 sources in seconds. (G2 required - good luck on G1)
You used the wrong phrasing...
by
Cerlyn
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· Score: 4, Insightful
In the United States (at least), everything made since 1923 was, has been, and still are copyrighted, even if they were never registered with the copyright office. So everything you see on a peer-to-peer network is indeed copyrighted.
A more approriate question (as some of the responders have answered) is if anyone has used a peer to peer network for a legitamite purpose. The problem here is that the issues are quite grey. If I have Game X, or Game System version 1.1 can I download copies of the games/BIOS/etc. online for use with emulators/replacements for broken discs/etc.? If an online broadcaster, paying royalty fees, uses ABAcast or Peercast to distribute their works, do I in turn have to pay royalty fees since I am rebroadcasting them?
Unfortunately, there is a major gap between what people think they can do under copyright law and what they actually can do. While I have not extensively researched the above (IANAL), technically, all the above commonly considered legitamite things are *illegal* unless you have worked some deal out to repay the copyright holders.
The problem you really should be asking is if anyone uses P2P networks to delibrately distribute their copyrighted works, either as a primary or secondary channel. A few minor bands likely do. The next question is if you'll ever find them on Slashdot. And I do not know the answer for that.
Note I personally have *never* used Napster, Gnutella, Kazza, or any of the other networks, mainly because being caught doing so may jepordize my ability to be hired in certain areas. I used to be one of those nasty college network administrators trying to keep your P2P usage down because it overloading our bandwidth, and we could not order a significantly bigger pipe because our local phone switch could not handle it. Feel free to flame me for my ignorance as you will.
I would like a copyright protected P2P network!
by
miffo.swe
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· Score: 4, Insightful
Dont get me wrong its not to help the RIAA or anything. I just would like a peer network where you could exchange only free uncopyrighed stuff. Today such things drown in britney Spears and porno and goes unoticed. A browsable peer network filled with only free stuff would lift it up and give legitimacy to peer networks. Today people trying to distribute free or new music etc. dissapears totally from the surface under a big pile of copyrighted crap. Pirating is actually in essence hurting unsigned and struggling musicians.
Maybe im the only one in the whole world who doesnt like to pirate, i dunno.
FastTrack -- the protocol is barely an improvement over the original gnutella, and with some additions from the LimeWire people, there are no improvements. It's also closed.
The FastTrack protocol is vastly superior to Gnutella, especially the original Gnutella. It is, quite simply, one of the best, if not THE best, P2P protocol out there.
DC -- totally different, and from a technical perspective, much less impressive. Little more than IRC+DCC with a non-idiotic interface.
DirectConnect interface non-idiotic?!? DC has the stupidest interface of any P2P app I've ever seen. People keep bitching about how hard eDonkey or WinMX are to use (for example), but if anything, those are WAY simpler than DC. Just point and click your way to downloads. I have yet to download a single file via DC. The thing flies in the face of everything users expect of P2P apps, and even Windows apps in general. It's a disgrace.
Just my opinion though, move on, nothing to see here.
-- "Hot lesbian witches! It's fucking genius!"
Re:A revolution in P2P? I don't think so
by
Sanity
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· Score: 4, Insightful
You obviously have no idea what your talking about.
Have you ever heard the phrase "It is better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"? Remember it, you will find it useful in the future.
Oh, and if you want to be taken seriously, perhaps you should have the courage to put your name to your utterances.
Gnutella2 isn't just a new searching mechanism.
It isn't a new searching mechanism at all, it is still using a brain-dead broadcast search. Link compression, partial file sharing, and the other features you mention are just putting lipstick on a pig.
More people will be using Gnutella2 than Freenet anyways.
Oh really, so you must know how many people are using Freenet?
Freenet's search methods dont' really work.
What? Have you ever even used it? I have, and it works fine for me.
So you couldn't really get out that "secret information" unless there were a kabillion sources. Not so on Gnutella2.
Utter bullcrap. You have obviously never tried to use Freenet.
Perhaps you could first (A) Read the spec
What spec?
(B) Download and use Shareaza
I don't run Windows.
(C) Learn more about the technology and methods it uses.
OpenOffice recently asked the P2P community to help out in distributing it's massive install file over their networks.
5 PC RWCT7Y.XKR2LGSL2K3DR4CTE5H5PDZGQCZOKN2NJWOOQHQ&dn= OOo_1.0.1_Win32Intel_install.zip
It's now on Gnutella2.
magnet:?xt=urn:bitprint:S5Q756FJ7326XXDGA7KZBF2
I get 15 sources in seconds. (G2 required - good luck on G1)
In the United States (at least), everything made since 1923 was, has been, and still are copyrighted, even if they were never registered with the copyright office. So everything you see on a peer-to-peer network is indeed copyrighted.
A more approriate question (as some of the responders have answered) is if anyone has used a peer to peer network for a legitamite purpose. The problem here is that the issues are quite grey. If I have Game X, or Game System version 1.1 can I download copies of the games/BIOS/etc. online for use with emulators/replacements for broken discs/etc.? If an online broadcaster, paying royalty fees, uses ABAcast or Peercast to distribute their works, do I in turn have to pay royalty fees since I am rebroadcasting them?
Unfortunately, there is a major gap between what people think they can do under copyright law and what they actually can do. While I have not extensively researched the above (IANAL), technically, all the above commonly considered legitamite things are *illegal* unless you have worked some deal out to repay the copyright holders.
The problem you really should be asking is if anyone uses P2P networks to delibrately distribute their copyrighted works, either as a primary or secondary channel. A few minor bands likely do. The next question is if you'll ever find them on Slashdot. And I do not know the answer for that.
Note I personally have *never* used Napster, Gnutella, Kazza, or any of the other networks, mainly because being caught doing so may jepordize my ability to be hired in certain areas. I used to be one of those nasty college network administrators trying to keep your P2P usage down because it overloading our bandwidth, and we could not order a significantly bigger pipe because our local phone switch could not handle it. Feel free to flame me for my ignorance as you will.
Dont get me wrong its not to help the RIAA or anything. I just would like a peer network where you could exchange only free uncopyrighed stuff. Today such things drown in britney Spears and porno and goes unoticed. A browsable peer network filled with only free stuff would lift it up and give legitimacy to peer networks. Today people trying to distribute free or new music etc. dissapears totally from the surface under a big pile of copyrighted crap. Pirating is actually in essence hurting unsigned and struggling musicians.
Maybe im the only one in the whole world who doesnt like to pirate, i dunno.
HTTP/1.1 400
FastTrack -- the protocol is barely an improvement over the original gnutella, and with some additions from the LimeWire people, there are no improvements. It's also closed.
The FastTrack protocol is vastly superior to Gnutella, especially the original Gnutella. It is, quite simply, one of the best, if not THE best, P2P protocol out there.
DC -- totally different, and from a technical perspective, much less impressive. Little more than IRC+DCC with a non-idiotic interface.
DirectConnect interface non-idiotic?!? DC has the stupidest interface of any P2P app I've ever seen. People keep bitching about how hard eDonkey or WinMX are to use (for example), but if anything, those are WAY simpler than DC. Just point and click your way to downloads. I have yet to download a single file via DC. The thing flies in the face of everything users expect of P2P apps, and even Windows apps in general. It's a disgrace.
Just my opinion though, move on, nothing to see here.
"Hot lesbian witches! It's fucking genius!"
Oh, and if you want to be taken seriously, perhaps you should have the courage to put your name to your utterances.
It isn't a new searching mechanism at all, it is still using a brain-dead broadcast search. Link compression, partial file sharing, and the other features you mention are just putting lipstick on a pig. Oh really, so you must know how many people are using Freenet? What? Have you ever even used it? I have, and it works fine for me. Utter bullcrap. You have obviously never tried to use Freenet. What spec? I don't run Windows. Sounds like you need to take your own advice.