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Gnutella2 Specs - Part 1

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the double-your-pleasure dept.

Mr Fodder writes "The first part of the Gnutella2 specs are finally up." Our previous Gnutella2 story has a little more information.

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  1. Shareaza's gnutella? by Superfarstucker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Shareaza is the only gnutella client that even uses this '2.0' protocol so im more inclined to say that its not really a new gnutella protocol but more or less an extension of the current gnutella client (apparently they didnt like the rate @ which gnutella was progressing)..

  2. Re:I am curious.. by Per+Wigren · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've used it to download Grim Fandango again, because CD2 of my original Grim Fandango broke when I accidentially dropped it on the floor and rolled my chair over it. :)

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    My other account has a 3-digit UID.
  3. Yep, here's an Example by Anenga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OpenOffice recently asked the P2P community to help out in distributing it's massive install file over their networks.

    It's now on Gnutella2.

    magnet:?xt=urn:bitprint:S5Q756FJ7326XXDGA7KZBF25 PC RWCT7Y.XKR2LGSL2K3DR4CTE5H5PDZGQCZOKN2NJWOOQHQ&dn= OOo_1.0.1_Win32Intel_install.zip

    I get 15 sources in seconds. (G2 required - good luck on G1)

  4. Re:I may be wrong by Anenga · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, here's the story.

    Micheal Stokes (Shareaza developer>) thought that the GDF (Gnutella Developers Forum) was a too slow at fixing Gnutella's problems (unscalable, too much unused bandwidth, unorgnaized for future additions) so he went ahead himself (by himself) and wrote Gnutella2. He has done this before, when he wrote the spec for "Remote Queueing" (kind of like IRC). He wrote his spec first, developed it in his client, released it then proposed the idea to the GDF. The GDF likes it and now Limewire, Bearshare and Gnucleus all support it.

    The GDF is pissed that Mike went ahead and "updated Gnutella" without asking them first. Granted, they have a right to. The GDF is meant to be a consensus, a forum for all developers. And a "assumed" condition of that is to let the other developers know *ahead of time* before going ahead and doing something this massive. And the entire idea that he called it "Gnutella2" (using the Gnutella brand) and advertised it as the "next revolution in P2P" (which it actually, IMO, is) pisses them off even more.

    However, if you notice, it seems only the developers with corperate ties are pissed. Other clients such as GTK (Linux), Gnucleus, etc. all seem interested in the protocol, I believe GTK already said they'd implament it. Limewire and BearShare still seem upset. (It's like owning a oil company, then someone comes out with electricty - sucks).

    Anyways, Mike likes the Gnutella ideals - that it is open and free. So he called it "Gnutella2". Partly to "refresh" Gnutella and revive Gnutella's bad image it has with the general user (which it has achieved IMO) and to show users it's the "second generation" of Gnutella.

    The Protocol is being released now. This is part one, the next one will go over the new packet encapsulation and what not.

  5. the real gnutella by asv108 · · Score: 5, Informative
    As mentioned in previous posts, the specification posted has nothing to do with Gnutella, Sharazea is just stealing a widely recognized name, this specification has nothing to do with Gnutella. If your interested in real gnutella development go to the Gnutella Developers Forum. There are quite a few open source clients available, the most popular being Limewire and Gnucleus.

    I've been playing around with the limewire source for ahwile, it is well documented and there is no spyware in the open source version. I love how people complain about Limewire and spyware, when it is open source. Anyone can take the gpled limewire source and package it without spyware without having to reverse engineer it like closed source KaZaa.

  6. Re:Not Gnutella2! Shareaza1!!! by Anenga · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The client he works on is "Limewire".

    I find publishing of THE Gnutella2 spec by ONE development team laughable

    Then lets hear you? I haven't seen any replies in the GDF from Limewire on the spec yet. You find that specs being released by Shareaza are laughable, but what about when Limewire proposes their GUESS proposal? Or "CHORD" proposal? Didn't "one development team" work on those? Sure, you released it before actually implamenting it, but still... the rest of the GDF just questioned about it, you were really the only development team. People don't say "Gnutella's GUESS proposal" they say "Limewire's GUESS proposal".

    The latest enhancement is GUESS, which was introduced before Shareaza's new searching methodology and seems to be Shareaza's inspiration.

    Can Limewire stop saying that? Which is totally and utterly untrue?!! Mike was working on G2 long before you sent him your spec on GUESS. He told you in a private e-mail that he was working on it before hand, and that he would probably release his with GUESS.

    And the specs released today are **VERY DIFFERENT** from your damn GUESS proposal.

    implemented over the last year or so by SEVERAL COOPERATING Gnutella vendors

    Oh, and what about your Remote Queueing feature? Shareaza founded that, and it's included in Limewire. Mike wants to cooperate, but your not giving him a chance.

    The Shareaza people continue to attempt to preempt Gnutella as THEIR protocol, when in fact they are pretty much branching off from the network.

    "Shareaza People"? There is only one developer for Shareaza, Mike. Shareaza supports G1 and G2, it supports "Gnutella".