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Lik-Sang To Take On The Big 3?

kableh writes "According to a press release on Lik-Sang's website, the gaming accessory company has new management, and is prepared to mount a strong defense in their upcoming lawsuit against Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony. "Just a few days after having received High Court Orders not allowing us to sell Mod Chip products for the Playstation 2 and Flash Linker products for the Nintendo Gameboy Advance, Lik Sang realized that the powers of those three multi-billion dollar corporations are simply infinite compared to the budgets and resources businesses like Lik Sang have available. Their legal actions have been hurting our customers and our business a lot in the last couple of weeks, so that we have finally decided to let somebody else take over Lik-Sang.com and solely concentrate on the lawsuit", says Alex Kampl, Director of Lik Sang International Limited."

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  1. More like the Big Two-and-a-Half by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Watch some video game commercials on TV. You'll notice that the games are published for GameCube, Playstation 2, Game Boy Advance, PC... and a distinct lack of Xbox support. The only games I see advertized for Xbox are only for Xbox (which suggests poor third-party support), and they've now resorted to the marketing gimmick of giving away free games with the console.

    Mod me down all you want, but I can't escape the impression that Xbox is floundering. Software houses that stressed they were going to be hardware agnostic a year ago now... aren't. Barring any miracles, I forsee the Xbox going the way of 3DO in less than a year. They just don't have the first- and second-party support to keep their heads above water.

    1. Re:More like the Big Two-and-a-Half by Maul · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interesting observations.

      Sega was tried to give away free games with the Saturn to try to sell it... and we all know what happened with that.

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    2. Re:More like the Big Two-and-a-Half by gss · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wouldn't count out M$ just yet, they still have plenty of cash to throw at XBox. We all know that when Microsoft wants to dominate a market segment they are usually pretty relentless until they get what they want. They have bought exclusive rights to some titles just to boost Box sales.

      Also I think Xbox live might make them more of a viable competitor, from what I've heard it's a better user experience compared to Nintendo and Sony's online offerings, albeit a pay service. I know several people who have bought Xboxes recently just for Xbox live. So who knows, it will be interesting to see where these console wars go.

  2. Re:What happened to making an honest living? by nattt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mod Chip != Piracy.

    Piracy is wrong, but so is not letting you make backups.

    Remember when it was "so you've lost your dongle - pay full price for a new copy..."

    Now its "Your dog scratched the delicate DVD and level 3 no longer loads - tough, buy a new copy" - or "You broke the disc but you made a backup - now you're a criminal"

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  3. with great power comes great responsibility by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    MS, Sony and whomever else(never cared for nintendo) have great power.
    This was never about protecting their revenues.
    They have chosen to use their power to destroy a small business in hong kong that actually sells usefull products that they didn't think of.

    Lik Sang is right about this hurting their customers. Their website was punted like a girl from #bearcave
    MS has used their power to disrupt a company from selling legitimate products. I was going to buy a 7" LCD screen from liksang at one point and couldn't. I had to get it elsewhere. Oh Wait, no one else sells such usefull products.

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  4. Re:MS and Sony should follow Nintendo's example by neonstz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am the (proud?) owner of a PS2 (not modded), GC, X-Box (modded) and a GBA (with Flash Linker).

    First, what I really hate is the region system all systems (except GBA) use. I live in Europe, and I feel it is sad that I have to wait several months for some titles (like Metroid Prime and Super Monkey Ball 2). I'm really looking forward to the Freeloader for GC (if it ever ships).

    The reason Sony and Microsoft didn't use a proprietary media is because both PS2 and X-Box are supposed to be more than a game console. I'm not sure if that was a wise move, but the X-Box do at least have a potential as a home entertainment system (although not exactly the way Microsoft wanted it :).

    What I really wonder is why Nintendo joined Sony and Microsoft suing Lik-Sang. The flashlinker is not just for copying games, but for developing too. I have written some GBA demos, and I the GBA is a really nice piece of hardware. I never use my GBA for games anyway, as I only own one (original) game. (I'm really considering buying Super Monkey Ball Jr, that game is just incredible!)

    And... is this a hoax or is this for real?

  5. monopoly? by ryochiji · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This probably isn't the case right now, but shouldn't it be considered a monopoly if one corporation (or an alliance of a few corporations) has so much power that they can simply sue competitors out of business?

    I mean, shouldn't all corporations (and people) be equal in the court of law, even if they aren't in the real world. What the heck do they call it "justice" for?

  6. This isn't a software issue, dammit by forkboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The thing that kills me about MS, Sony, and Nintendo flexing their corporate might here is that this isn't software we're talking about. This isn't a licensed product...when you buy a PS2, you OWN it, and whatever you choose to do to it once you own, wether that is playing with it, smashing it to bits, reselling it, or fucking around with the hardware, that's YOUR choice. They have no legal say into the matter, so they should have no sway over Lik-Sang for selling a chip that modifies said hardware.

    It really chaps my ass that this should even need to GO to court.

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  7. nice, but what motivation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I always like to see the big boys get sued if they are trying to stomp on their little guys to impose their own will. BUT, what I do not understand is why this other company is taking over Lik Sang.

    Don't get me wrong -- I do welcome it. But it is an awefully strange business decision from that company's point of view. What they're doing is taking over a company that

    • owes refunds to many pissed-off customers
    • may not be able to sell some of its products due to legal restrictions
    • is going to have a large legal bill, even if it wins
    • may very well lose the lawsuit and be liable for some kind of monetary damages

    So, what I want to know is what this new company's motivation is. Is the rest of Lik Sang's product line so valuable that it's worth all that? It seems unlikely given the risk, but maybe so. Or, is that other company taking a true selfless action in order to establish a good legal precedent? Or, is there something else I don't see?

  8. Re:You are full of it by bstadil · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Did you know 150,000 people bought XBox Live in the first week?

    Did you know PS2 adapter sold out 450,000 units at launch? MS only made 150k units as they needed the good press of "SOLD OUT".

    They claim to have sold 2.5Mu in US and each unit has a build in ethernet adapter so why only make 150k?

    Second: MS / Sony et al is breaking international trade law by imposing Area restrictions. I hope Lik Sanfg make that a cornerstone of their defense.

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  9. Homebrew and region locks by yerricde · · Score: 3, Interesting

    off the record, Nintendo, et al. aren't too concerned about importing of games (and DVDs, etc), compared to piracy.

    What about homebrew software development for Nintendo consoles such as the GBA? Here's what I've gathered about Nintendo's behavior in practice:

    • Devices designed for region modding, such as NES, SNES, and N64 region adapters and GCN modchips: Blind eye.
    • Devices that make piracy easy, such as flash carts with the same memory map as official carts: Lawsuit.
    • Devices designed only for homebrew development, such as the MBV2 cable produced by Lik Sang Manufacturing: Blind eye.

    We just have the region locks to keep the suits happy

    Specifically, 1) to distinguish 50 Hz (Europe/Australia) and 60 Hz (Japan/America) consoles, and 2) to solve the "Peter Pan problem", where different entities own a particular franchise in different markets. (Barrie's Peter Pan is in PD in >=1923 USA and life+50 Japan but not in life+70 EU.) So why did Nintendo put Japan vs. America region locks on the NES, Super NES, N64, and GCN consoles, but not on the GBA system?

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