Manning's Struts in Action
What's Needed So it is generally acknowledged that using the MVC pattern is the proper way to build web applications, but with the large number of technologies and frameworks it can be a long road to figure what is the best solution for your application. What we need is a book that covers the best practices of web application design and development from both a technology/architecture perspective, and is written by a few folks who have deep understanding of the underlying problems of building robust web applications.
That's what I love the most about this book, it doesn't just talk about how to configure and develop with Struts. It's a web application manifesto. Anyone can write a book about how to use Struts to build a web application. That's not the point. This book is ~8 people-years worth of first-hend developer knowledge (4 authors x ~2 years of working on the Struts project) condensed down into 630 pages. It doesn't just teach you how to use Struts (and Velocity and Taglibs and Tiles), but why you should use them. That's the most important thing this book has to offer. If your project is looking at using Struts & other Jakarta technologies, you need this book. If your project is currently using Struts & other Jakarta technologies, you need this book.
What's Bad?The Velocity coverage is pretty light. If you are more comfortable building logic with a quasi-shell script language instead of using markup tags, then you should look to the project's documentation for further reference before embarking on a prototype. The Jakarta Lucene project, is touched on in the sample application they build, but are left as an exercise for the reader to investigate. While it's good to bring in related technologies to flesh out your sample apps, you have to be careful not to get sidetracked from the primary topic. You could easily write several books about the other components developed by the Jakarta project.
What's Good?The best part is that the 4 authors are all Struts authorities (one Jakarta project manager, 2 Struts committers, one principal consultant), so they know Struts and the other Jakarta web frameworks inside and out. More than that, these guys have been solving the problems involved with web applications for several years now. They have deep experience in the patterns and best practices of building robust and flexible web applications, and this book passes on their experiences to the reader.
So What's In It For Me?With this book and a little bit of effort on your part, you will be a competent Java web application developer. With a little bit more effort, you will become a Java web application architect. It's worth the extra effort. This is a tremendous book that will set the standard for web application references and will continue to be useful for years to come. It reminds me of the first Manning book I read, Neward's Server-Based Java Programming in terms of it's scope. approach and usefulness.
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Everytime I go back and consider using struts.. I keep realizing I already use the MVC. Struts too me seems like extra bloat.
:)
Basically I have a master url such as: http://mywebsite/servlet/IndexServlet (lets just say).
The master servlet always takes in an "f" parameter to determine state. f=login , f=mainmenu, f=saveform, etc...
It uses that f parameter to pull out the proper "Action Object" (or control) from a stored hashtable that is initialized once. Then it executes that ActionObject (or whatever you choose to call it) which handles the other parameters (other than f), does what it needs to, and pushes out the proper JSP "view" of your choosing.
This could be simply displaying a form, saving a form to database and displaying a success page, yadda yadda yadda. Of course some actions can be used for more than one thing if you code smartly.
I have saved eons of time doing this this way, making my "ActionObjects" as reusable as possible.
All along security is maintained via sessions.
It's easy, and you don't need third party libs to do it.
Commentary and questions are welcome of course. I expect half of you have come up with some flaws
--Zuchini
FYI - Struts is quickly becoming the framework of choice for all J2EE coding houses. Having struts experience is a huge plus on your resume. The other Java tech to watch out for is portals (ie - jakarta's portal engine, or WebSphere's portal engine).
I digress, but I've used struts and the MVC pattern plenty at my job, and it just makes life so easy when adding in new functionality, fixing bugs quickly, and overall maintainability.
Those that say "its good in theory, not in practice" haven't used it correctly in practice.
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
IS MVC really the best way to build web applications? It seems to me that for 95% of the web sites in operation, by the time you finish building the MVC app in Java using Struts you could have coded it 3 times in PHP or Perl?
Does Slashdot use an MVC pattern? MSN? Yahoo?
"For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
I completely and totally agree!
I'm sick of children that say "Hell, I coulda done that in like a week, not 3 months!" This is the difference between coding all hours of the night and true professional development.
This is, unfortunately, an issue with several open source projects. Someone just starts slapping code together, and more and more people jump in and have coding binges over the weekend. What do you end up with? A bowl of spaghetti code that only the original writers can understand.
If major design was implemented from the start, a lot of open source projects would be easier to help out (I hate to say this, cause it will sound like a troll, but slashcode really needs rewritten from scratch with a better design than what it currently has. Honestly, if it was well written, I think a lot more people would be willing to pitch in and help out.)
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
You may mean PHP, I guess? I agrre, it's complete mess of spaghetti.
But in a defence of open source project (especially based on something else than on proprietary java) I would address you to Zope. You'll find a very good technology design without all that EJBish overbloating.
When you run Zope, please check you memory. Compare it to what you have with Struts/JBoss on an equal load and equal functions (and equal dev time). In my case the difference was 10 MB vs 100 MB for a mid size applications.
After that compare you code just to enjoy that your application code in Zope is even more readable and better mainanable than in Struts.
I began to hate EJB specifically and Java generally when I've been introduced to Zope and Python.
Less is more !
Velocity is still very much alive. Watch the mailing lists for a while if you want to see what's going on.
Who said Freedom was Fair?
you still have a big pile of servlets that does everything from database access to presentation.
If you end up with a big pile of servlets like this then you aren't using the framework properly. No framework is going to save stupid developers with a bad design. It can try to save them from themselves, but ultimately, the developers have to have a clue about how to code and how to properly design an application.
Who said Freedom was Fair?
I have found that I have made the Python round-trip.
I haven't used Zope, but for general programming..I have found my programs to build up quicker using python.. but , even when push comes to shove.. my java apps are more maintainable. Agreed that JAVA is a bit of a pig, but it's a VERY structured language. Having soft-types in Python seems to be what kills me in the long run, my programs tend to be more 'brittle'.
Also, using tools like ANT and now my new golden-child of IDE's , Eclipse.. I find JAVA wasn't as bad as I thought..
I can also use Jython anywher ein my java apps if desired.
The MVC model defines more communication options and knowledge between objects that Struts is able to provide. MVC is event driven, a Struts application is driven by actions (post or get).
By your definition, then, MVC is impossible to achieve over HTTP. You go on to say:
However MVC allows the model to interact with the view, and there is no way you can be sure you will be able to do so with a web page, because HTTP only supports polling and not pushing if you want to keep things browser independant.
First off I'm not sure you're comparing apples to apples here. MVC in the desktop sense has both different connotations and expectations than MVC in the web sense. Using simple session management (either through cookies or URL rewriting) you can have a de facto state-ful application over HTTP wherein the view is affected by the model.
You seem to be maintaining a rather purist definition of "MVC."
...the soiled nappy of the bastard spawn of Satan.
Sure, the custom tags make your JSPs look sweet. But what a mess underneath. I think it was something like five or six hops from one file to the next for every request, coming back to the main struts-config.xml file at least twice. That file quickly becomes unmanageable in anything other than the Greatest XML Editor Ever (i.e., not JBuilder!), and I spent around half of my time scrolling through thousands of lines of near-identical XML looking for the bit I had to change.
There might come a point at which all this unnecessary complexity actually starts to make life easier - but it'd have to be one huge project.
Saw it, tried it, hated it, ran away.
Struts is light years behind WebObjects. Tapestry is "inspired" by WebObjects ... they are kissing cousins. Each has its own set of strengths and weaknesses. Tapestry does a little less magic for you and thus is a lot more scalable.
Check it out
Howard M. Lewis Ship -- Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant -- Creator, Apache Tapestry and HiveMind