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How To Get Hired As An Open Source Developer

An anonymous reader writes "Todd Cranston-Cuebas, tech recruiter for Ticketmaster, offers insider tips and tricks for landing an open-source job -- or for recruiting new talent to your IT staff." Make yourself googleable.

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  1. Its rather simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just put it "willing to work for free" in your resume!

    1. Re:Its rather simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll work for free.. I just won't do what you want me to do. But that's okay, if you offer me some cash then we can talk.

  2. Hiring with or without a degree... my thoughts. by dagg · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Companies looking for open source skill sets are very focused on the proven abilities of the engineer in the work environment. In other words, if you can do it, you are the right candidate. With proprietary systems, like Microsoft technologies, there's a tendency to look at things like certifications as a prerequisite for hires. In the open source world, there are very few certifications that matter."

    My experience is this:

    • People without degrees will willingly hire people without degrees.
    • People with degrees usually hire only people with degrees.
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    1. Re:Hiring with or without a degree... my thoughts. by MattW · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That hasn't been my experience. My experience is that good managers who are knowledgable about the workforce will hire people without degrees. People who are poor managers and in over their heads are too afraid to hire non-degreed personnel because they feel it will reflect poorly on them. It's the HR equivalent of "no one ever got fired for buying Microsoft".

  3. Same as getting any job by BigGar' · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have skills applicable to the job and a few others that might come in handy.

    Be flexabile on salary, understand that pay has come down in a lot of markets.

    Interview well when it gets to that point.

    Get lucky.

    How is any of this different than getting any job?

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  4. No way by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Wow, slashdot is really proving itself interesting tonight. I should get a subscription but student, no cash, blah de blah.

    This is almost psychic though. I was just talking to my flatmate (we both work for former ministry of defence research) whether it'd be possible to get a project code for my open source project and try and get a grant from the LinuxFund, the idea being that I could "bill" the Fund for my time working on the project. Often the fund gives out money and the projects don't really know what to do with it, I think the best use I can think of is to let me work on it fulltime.

    Of course, as Dan rightly pointed out, there are all sorts of ugly issues with that plan, noteably the overhead my company would charge, and the fact that they have a tendancy to eat IP for breakfast. Even though the project doesn't do anything that hasn't been done before, they might try to "own" the code, which wouldn't do any good at all.

    Still, I think I might talk to my boss about it tomorrow. I get paid jack all basically so I'd be able to make $1000 go a long way.....

  5. ResumeRank(tm)? by szquirrel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the article:

    We create an index of all incoming resumes and search on keywords. That's why it's important for job-seekers to repeat the major skills multiple times in their resume.

    WTF is this? It's bad enough having to compete for a job with people who flat-out lie. Now am I going to lose out just because some dickhead spammed more buzzwords around his resume?

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  6. Ticketbastard by timothy_m_smith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find it almost funny to hear Ticketmaster being associated with free software since they provide a service that adds almost no value and charges a boatload. Good thing they are saving so much money on software systems.

    1. Re:Ticketbastard by Soko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Creators of apps like Microsoft?

      Welcome to capitalism, and (for good or ill) one of the roles of OSS. How many times have you heard "RedHat is cheaper than Windows, so businesses should use it!!!", or worse, said that yourself? Don't like it when the other edge of the OSS sword swings around and hits you, eh?

      Since when does the GPL say "No money grubbing, evil monopolists allowed to install and use this software to further thier cause."? Oh, that's right, it doesn't - only rules about re-distribution. Hopefully 2.0 of the GPL will stomp out all monopolies, hunh?

      Grow up.

      Like it or not, we get the good with the bad. As "evil" as TicketMonster is, they _are_ forwarding our cause in a way that businesses understand - namley that OSS makes good business sense. I'll take that over a tin-foil hat any day, bud.

      Hell, maybe our way "of goodness and light" will rub off on them by association, making for a kinder and gentler monopolist. You just never know...

      Soko

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  7. Arg! You just 404'd my resume! by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gee, thanks! I just submitted my resume for a job at one of the ticketmaster subsidiaries...

    My resume is now lost in a huge, even bigger then usual pile of resumes.

    404 - Career Not Found!

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    "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
  8. Ticketmaster, huh? by X_Caffeine · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does he have any tips on running the sort of monopoly that a company like Microsoft could actually take notes from?

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  9. Sigh - #include by 4of12 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess it's probably just a reflex action against spam-like resume submission (he cites 3000 applicants for a PC support tech), but I have to cringe that resumes get pre-processed by machine.

    Soon applicants will achieve homogeneity in resumes, devoid of any real persona...

    • PHP, 5 years experience
    • MySQL 6 years experience, senior project lead, architect
    • Apache 3.0pre9, principal developer, 9 years experience
    • .NET original architectural team, 15 years experience
    • Java2EE, 23 years experience
    • Linux kernel developer, 497 years experience
    • MCSE since 1954
    • SANS certified since 213 B.C.
    • CCNE since Cheops finished the pyramid
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  10. My new resume by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    This article has excellent advice for writing a resume in this age of Internet search engines. I've already rewritten mine. Here it is:

    Resume Resume Resume Resume Resume

    Java C Windows Windows Motivated C++ C SQL Teamwork C++ Perl C GDI C++ Perl Teamwork Windows Perl SQL SQL Motivated Windows GDI C++ Windows Self-Starter Perl C++ C C++ C++ GDI Motivated Self-Starter Python C++ Java Java C++ Python C++

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    Self-Starter C++ GDI Java Python Windows Perl C++ GDI Windows Teamwork C GDI Python Perl C++ Perl C C++ Self-Starter Teamwork Motivated Python Java Teamwork Java Motivated Motivated Teamwork Motivated Python Self-Starter Java Python C++ SQL Python Teamwork Python Self-Starter Java Teamwork Teamwork C++ C++ Self-Starter Motivated GDI Motivated Windows Motivated GDI C++ GDI Windows Python Perl C Python Teamwork Python Self-Starter Windows Motivated SQL C++ GDI GDI SQL SQL C Self-Starter C++ Java GDI SQL GDI Self-Starter C Teamwork Motivated Motivated SQL SQL Self-Starter

    Self-Starter Motivated C Teamwork Motivated Teamwork SQL Windows Java Windows C Windows SQL C++ Teamwork Python GDI Java C++ Python GDI

  11. a bit late by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny


    1999: "How To Get Hired As An Open Source Developer"

    2001: "How To Get Hired As A Developer"

    2002: "How To Get Hired"

  12. Well... by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's easy to forget that there are several different categories of software development, each with different things driving them. Here's a gross simplification of how I see it:

    There are 3 distinct major groups of developers:

    1 - people who earn money developing software for sale as a product: to them, open source generally != good

    2 - people who earn money developing software (embedded, hardware device drivers, etc.) to support another product that is sold: to them open source: sometimes == good and sometimes != good (gives away, architectures, secrets)

    3 - people who earn money developing software for IT purposes and/or in-house use: to them, open source generally == good

    Of course, there are many other groups of developers (academic, recreational, etc.) and there is intermingling, so the above is not a hard and fast rule.

    I also think that this is also one of the reasons that you often see acrimonious debate here at /. - each group has a different set of objectives and priorities.

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  13. Re:It's not that simple by dcavanaugh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was in college back in the early 80s. At the time, new grads were having a hell of a time landing jobs. I was really worried about graduating and finding nothing to do. By the mid 80's, things warmed up just a little. I was looking for a part-time job that would provide meaningful experience, because it looked like experience was the only way to get a "real" job later.

    I applied for what I thought was a temporary, part-time, third shift operations job in a data center that ran a bunch of DEC VAX machines. The job they offered me was first shift, and 91% of full-time (state employee benefits included). I was a junior in college, who accidently landed a job that was no worse than what a new grad would get. I decided to take a break from school and go back when the job ended. Well, the job that wasn't third-shift or part-time wasn't temporary either. The original employee on leave never came back, so I became an accidental full-time permanent employee. I never went back to school, because I stayed 13 years, with five promotions, ending as the Director of Technical Services.

    If I had stayed in school, I would have finished in 86 or 87, and the job market was really hopping by then (but who knew back in 85?) I was so happy to have found a job, I thought it would be stupid to finish school if that meant graduating into a down market. Having seen how many employers "required" degrees but "hired" experience, I determined that experience would win out over degrees most of the time, or at least often enough to keep me working. My cynical view of employment has served me well. After 17 years of uninterrupted employment, I'm having a hard time seeing the downside of quitting college early.

    So, why do I post this mini-autobiography? To illustrate just how cyclical the IT has always been. When it's hot, anyone who can type can get a job. When it's cold, having a Ph.D. won't help. So, I think the strategy is to build credentials and manufacture your own experience in the "cold" years, as you wait for the "hot" years. If you live in a high-cost area, consider moving someplace cheap. There is no reason to tolerate a high cost of living unless you have a big paycheck to cover it. Go back for an MSCS or MBA degree if you can; work outside IT if you must. Either way, start your own little empire of computers, using open source (Linux) or free downloads from Oracle (free for non-commercial use, including home hacking). If you can pick up contract work of any type, then you'll be in a position to do something when the market heats up again. Timing is everything.

    The fact that we have a down market combined with a glut of H1Bs makes me wonder if we are going to see a massive correction when the market heats up. I predict a shortage of IT people, because it makes no sense to invest 4 years of tuition just to compete with H1Bs. Then again, my prediction plus $1.10 gets you a medium coffee at Dunkin Donuts.