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Slashback: TIPS, FatWallet, MPlayer

Slashback with words on the demise of TIPS, MPlayer's newest add-in, Revolution OS on DVD, Wal-Mart blinking first in their fight with FatWallet, and more. Read on for the details.

Facts is facts, Ma'am. joebeone writes "WalMart has backed down [AScribe.org] from it's DMCA claim in the FatWallet case[1] after FatWallet countered that facts are uncopyrightable (at least in the US). Let this be a lesson to those who would use the DMCA to unjustly intimidate websites into removing content. I definitely think that Boalt Hall's Samuelson Law, Technology and Public Policy Clinic deserves some major credit for sticking up for the little guys who don't have the litigatory resources that companies like WalMart have.

[1] WalMart claimed that their day-after-thanksgiving sale prices were copyrightable."

Maybe they just changed the drop location. An anonymous reader writes "There was one small ray of light in the Homeland Security Act. A provision inserted in the bill killed the Justice Department's TIPS initiative. You'll recall that TIPS was the DoJ's proposal to create a domestic spy network using ordinary citizens. And I was hoping to join up and inform them that John Ashcroft wears women's underwear. Oh well ..."

Best way to play back "L.A. Confidential." An anonymous reader writes "The best media player for *nixes, MPlayer, has just gotten better with the ability to play Windows Media Player 9 (WMV9 and WMA9) files. When Sorensen playback was added the only remaining codecs were the Window Media Player ones. Now that this is complete, Linux finally seems to have a complete solution for multimedia playback. It just remains for the mainstream distros to include this gem."

Measure three or four times at least, cut once. jdevons writes "The Owner-Builder Book that I reviewed a while ago has been updated. The author reads slashdot regularly and included many of the ideas and suggestions offered in the slashdot comments ..."

Jeff, Rob and Chris in their Hollywood makeup. updog writes "The film Revolution OS, which has been discussed on Slashdot here and here, is now available on DVD at Netflix (btw, it's interesting to note that this Netflix version is sub-licensed under the guise of pay-per-view television, and the director J.T.S. Moore wasn't even aware of its existence until recently.)

A 2 Disc Special Edition DVD will be available in January 2003, and will include additional interviews, bonus material, and better video quality over the Netflix version. You can make sure that you're notified when it's released by requesting info here. Finally, I've written a review of the Netflix version of the DVD, which you can read here."

Next year's stocking stuffer, maybe? An anonymous reader writes "nvmax.com is running a story/press release explaining how Dynamism.com is teaming up with the Zaurus Open Source development community to bring the Sharp Zaurus SL-C700 to English!. I need to get one!"

What I want is C-64 style Aztec. retro128 writes "For all of your old schoolers out there, Tierra Entertainment has released a re-make of King's Quest II, which includes original art, completely redone music, and a few extra things not seen in the original game (some early screen shots hinted at a town, which did not exist in the original). What's remarkable is that Tierra has no affiliation with Sierra whatsoever, and is driven by two developers who wish to remain anonymous. I've played their re-make of KQ1 and it's up to snuff. Check out the main page or go straight to the good stuff."

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  1. Who needs TIPS by dynayellow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When we've got the Total Awareness Network. Let the computers do the work!

    Man, remember when we were worried about Carnivore?

  2. I miss TIPS by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Considering what I've been reading the last few weeks about this new Department of Information Awareness, I think I miss TIPS. Bad to worse and all -- TIPS was at least simply a formal structure for Americans to report on one another. DoIA, on the other hand, seems more like a full-out spy organization targetted towards the American people.

    I am perpetually shocked at the willingness of Americans to give away the rights for which their ancestors suffered so much.

    Menace the average modern American with anything halfway alarming -- terrorism, crime or any other of today's various boogeymen -- and in place of their forebearers' bravery, idealism and resolve, they will show cowardice, surrender and an astounding aptitude for cognative dissonence. They will gratefully trade their liberties for even the illusion of security, and will gladly indenture themselves to anyone who claims to offer them safety. How far we've fallen from the day when men like Washinton, Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt fought for and to protect the central ideas of American Democracy.

    How we've betrayed the bravery of our heritage.

    I believe that if America stands for anything, it's the rights which it is supposed to guarantee its citizens. Strip that away, and what are you left with? Nothing more than a location on a map and base nationalism. To give away our hard-won rights is disgusting cowardice, and to strip them from others is nothing less than treason.

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    1. Re:I miss TIPS by dynayellow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The political demagogue is powered, today as he was in ancient Rome, by the mob. The mouthbreathers.

      The mouthbreather doesn't care about freedom of speech; his opinions are the popular ones. If the popular opinion changes, so will his. The mouthbreather doesn't care about freedom of the press; he just wants to be entertained.

      What the mouthbreather really wants is to get through his day, safely, and have it be exactly the way it was the day before.

      In "Easy Rider," Jack N's character says something along the lines of "People 'round here will go on and on about freedom, but if you show them a man who's really free, they'll hate him."

    2. Re:I miss TIPS by rasche · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As an European (non eastern), I'm
      quite surprised Americans allowed something
      like TIPS or the whole Patriot Act to
      happen in the first place.

      Always thought the American constitution
      allow enough power to the authorities
      to defend the country and safeguard the
      freedom of its citizens.

    3. Re:I miss TIPS by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "How far we've fallen from the day when men like Washinton, Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt fought for and to protect the central ideas of American Democracy."

      No. Burr, Hamilton and Davis fought for Democracy.

      Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln fought for a Republic. FDR fought for a Socialist system and broke the Constitution everywhich way in the 30s.

      Lincoln also violated the US Constitution so much more than the last 5 administrations have.

      Maryland under Martial Law, Newspaper Editors thrown in jail or deported, etc.

    4. Re:I miss TIPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      it was named the Patriot Act. immediately after Sept 11. it could have had funding for child porn, there was no way it was not getting passed.

      and it is truly sad thats what i see in my govt

    5. Re:I miss TIPS by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every night, good red-blooded Americans turn on their teevees and see their leaders telling them that they are free and they live in the best country in the world. As far as these people are concerned, their "hard-won" rights are still there!

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    6. Re:I miss TIPS by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bad to worse and all -- TIPS was at least simply a formal structure for Americans to report on one another. DoIA, on the other hand, seems more like a full-out spy organization targetted towards the American people.

      The best way for a totalitarian regime to maintain power is to involve the population in their own oppression. The people in power have the work of rooting out potential subversives done for them, while the people under control believe they're doing something great for their country by rooting out those subversives who threaten the nation's stability.

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    7. Re:I miss TIPS by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Poindexter was one of the people in the Reagan administration who was convicted for taking part in the Iran-Contra affair, though his conviction was overturned due to a technical error.

      Not quite.

      He was given immunity for his Congressional testimony, which many people believe saved Reagan's ass from the Clinton treatment. Funny thing is, those same people believe Poindexter lied his ass off to save Reagan's ass. Therefore, Poindexter's immunity gave him the power to say practically anything in order to protect his boss, including flat-out lies that no one else would contradict, since they also worked for the same guy.

      I'm reading Veil by Bob Woodward right now. It's amazing, some of the legal backflips the Reagan administration and CIA had to perform in order to justify things like the contra war in Nicaragua and arms sales to Iran through Israel. That last pairing alone, which I'd been unaware of until reading the book, made my head spin - Israel participating with Iran in a US plan to fund right-wing death squads in Latin America? Truth is stranger than fiction.

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    8. Re:I miss TIPS by jayteedee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How far we've fallen from the day when men like Washinton, Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt fought for and to protect the central ideas of American Democracy.

      How far we've fallen to consider that Washinton, Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt would have fought for a democracy. They would have recoiled in horror at the thought. Especially since they instituted a consitutional republic. You might be right if the Roosevelt to which you refer is the Franklin variety, who was indeed for a democracy. However, the other 3 and the Teddy version definately were not in favor.

      FYI: A republic is a government in which the supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law.
      Democracy is basically mob rule or 50.000001% wins, damn the laws, damn the minority which in this example would be 49.999999% of the people (hence the term mob rule).

      One quote from another famous person from the same line of thinking: "Democracies have been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property, and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death." James Madison

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    9. Re:I miss TIPS by benzapp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is certainly true. The most brilliant system however is the federal system which underlines the republic. Since the FBI was created in the wake of the fraud that was World War I, the federal government has systematically overstepped the boundries placed upon it by the constitution.

      I am not going to spend too much time discussing my personal historical feelings, but maintaining virtually autonomous states seems redundant to most people, including most Americans. But, when the revolution comes, the state governments will continue even if Washington DC is nuked off the face of the earth.

      The founding fathers very well knew the size of the United States, and knew that while they were creating a New Rome, their empire would suffer the same fate. Instead of fracturing in haphazard ways as did Europe with the collapse of the empire, the United States is completely capable of functioning without a central authority.

      What the bureaucrats don't realize is how truly irrelevant they are. Their days are numbered. I believe a violent revolution will not occur in the US, but will evolve much as the evolution of Europe. Soon, Washington DC will become completely irrelevant to the average citizen, just as Rome became irrelevant to the citizens of Gaul as France was born. Any student of US law will realize the radical differences between California and New York will only amplify in time. There is already a radical difference in behavior, speech, mannerism, dress... Hell, California is already larger than many, if not most, European nations. Just a thought.

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    10. Re:I miss TIPS by ChronosX · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Your quote got me thinking about something I once read by H.L. Mencken, a well known political journalist, who was active in the first half of the last century. He simply said, "The average man doesn't want to be free. He wants to be safe".

      This prompted me to do a little more research into the man and found he had quite amazing insight into the mind of the government and the people. For example, I found another marvelous passage that seems to apply well to this very situation as it did many decades ago:
      If the American people really tire of democracy and want to make a trial of Fascism, I shall be the last person to object. But if that is their mood, then they had better proceed toward their aim by changing the Constitution and not by forgetting it.
    11. Re:I miss TIPS by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But, when the revolution comes, the state governments will continue even if Washington DC is nuked off the face of the earth.

      I'm not sure how you define "function" in this context. If it comes to war-- which is what I assume you're talking about, what with the "nuked off the face of the earth" thing and all-- the several states will be utterly defenseless. An occupying force could march into any state capitol in the country, gun down the legislature, and take control with virtually no organized opposition.

      And let's not forget something that's even more critical than defense: the economy. Our economy is managed-- to the extent that it's managed at all-- from a central bank in Washington. That bank issues all U.S. currency, and backs it. If it disappeared... well, chaos.

      And finally, just to pick one example of many, one that, as a restaurant owner, is near and dear to my heart, we have the USDA and the FDA. There are essentially no state-scale systems for the inspection, grading, and certification of foodstuffs. If the Federal government were to evaporate, we'd be back in the days of unregulated food production. Could we live with it? Sure. But I sure as hell wouldn't want to.

      The Federal government is far from irrelevant.

      Oh, and your thing about "a radical difference in behavior, speech, mannerism, dress?" Utter crap. There are essentially no cultural differences between any two points in this country, notwithstanding differences that are based on factors that transcend geography, such as race or ethnicity. You can get on a plane and go from Miami to Houston to Phoenix to San Francisco to Denver to Omaha to Chicago to Detroit to Boston to Richmond to Atlanta and back to Miami and not find any significant differences between any of them.

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  3. WMA 9 code from aviplayer/avifile by gupg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think its important to point out that avifile was first to get the windows media player 9 codecs to work. Its another great multimedia project. Check it out at:
    http://avifile.sourceforge.net/

  4. WalMart backed down after Thanksgiving by nezroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, I think this was a partial success for Wal-Mart (from their point of view). With the threat of the DMCA, they got the prices removed so their competitors could not undercut them. They then backed down AFTER the post-Thanksgiving sale, costing them little to nothing to do so, and avoided the cost of actually having to pursue the lawsuit. Other than the relatively small press-coverage on /. and the single blurb on WSJ, they take almost no bad press over the whole affair. I'd say they accomplished exactly what they set out to do.

    1. Re:WalMart backed down after Thanksgiving by Neolithic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they take almost no bad press over the whole affair. I'd say they accomplished exactly what they set out to do.

      This is why FatWallet needs to keep pressing the charges of the 512(f) provision and not let Wal*Mart settle out of court. Wal*Mart committed a very real crime and Wal*Mart must suffer the consequences of their actions. The DMCA must be shown to be a bad law.

      Scenario: I threaten you with a gun for your money. Even were I to give the money back and say, "Sorry, no hard feelings," I would still go to jail.

      Fuck Wal*Mart and fuck the DMCA.

  5. QFG2. by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As great as the KQ series was I really preferred Quest for Glory II.

    There was nothing like going out and fighting forever until you were SO strong nothing was a match for you...

    EGA games *always* need to be redone... They were our classics.

  6. KQ by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I remember playing kings quest way back when - having to load different floppies etc...

    That game got me so hooked on computer games i still cant pull myself away.

    hmmm.... maybe this isnt a good thing. It's like having nostalgia for my first hit off Whitney's crack pipe. oh wait, she's too rich for crack - and I'm too poor for games these days.

  7. Isn't it a little late for Wal-Mart to back down? by Scooby+Snacks · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I mean, the damage is already done. These were sale prices from a week ago. They got them removed. (Well, several big-name retailers did.) Then, they decide to give it a go to try to find out who did it. FatWallet showed some backbone, so Wal-Mart backed down and decided to cut their losses rather than have this go to court.

    Pardon me, but I don't think that Wal-Mart's "seen the light" or become a good guy in this regard.

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  8. Any news on the rest of the FatWallet case? by CarlDenny · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are they still countersuing Walmart for damages, purgery, anything?

    This is not a win unless they are hurt for their actions. They still kept FatWallet from getting the word out. They've still used the DMCA to stifle legitimate works. And it hasn't cost them a thing.

  9. Re:Wal-Mart's Bluff by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "One wonders if Wal-Mart's bluff on this was simply a ploy to have the prices taken down before the sale and while planning all along to back down later."

    If that's true, then they shot themselves in the foot. When the next major retail holiday rolls around, nobody (including FatWallet) will be inclined to take anything down.

  10. Perjury? by Phanatic1a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So what happens to Wal-Mart now that they've submitted the claim that their prices were protected by copyright under penalty of perjury? Surely even though they've withdrawn the claim, they don't get to "take back" the fact that they perjured themselves?

  11. Re:Wal-Mart's Bluff by vaguelyamused · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That maybe true, maybe not, if they can get a federal court to grant an injunction against the site by trying to charge them with DMCA again they will be required to take the prices down. If they settle with FatWallet this year the case will not enter case law as there is no judgement and they may still be able to get an injunction on the same grounds as the subpoena this year. Even if they don't get an injunction any site that is threatened by Wal-Mart and their huge legal department may be advised by their own lawyers to take down the info until the case is settled. And Wal-Mart wins again.

    Hopefully you are right and someone stands up to them next year, we'll see.

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  12. TIPS may not be dead yet... by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...only renamed.

    This is the relevant section that supposedly eliminated TIPS:

    SEC. 880. PROHIBITION OF THE TERRORISM INFORMATION AND PREVENTION SYSTEM.
    Any and all activities of the Federal Government to implement the proposed component program of the Citizen Corps known as Operation TIPS (Terrorism Information and Prevention System) are hereby prohibited.


    All it does is prohibit the proposed program under the Citizen Corps known as TIPS. A strict reading of the language could leave a way to revive the program under a different name.

    It may seem a bit legalistic and paranoid, but legalities like that are precisely how unpalatable programs are implemented anyway.

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  13. misleading story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    From the story: Linux finally seems to have a complete solution for multimedia playback. It just remains for the mainstream distros to include this gem.

    WRONG! Go have a look at the supported formats on the MPlayer site. You will see that there are still unsupported formats. Linux does *not* have a complete solution for multimedia playback. I found this out when I tried to play some wmv files with MPlayer. They didn't play, so I checked the MPlayer site (earlier today) and found out that I will need to use Microsoft media player if I want it to work. Oh well. So much for windows media under Linux...

  14. Re:*bzzt* by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    right wing pistol packing rabbis

    Perhaps this is some usage of the term "right wing" I'm not familiar with. Does it mean someone who can read and comprehend the English language?

    And why rabbis? I don't happen to know the percentage of the members of the JPFO that are rabbis, but I think that it is clear that they aren't the majority. I can't think of any reason you would refer specifically to rabbis that reflects well on you.

    there's and NRA man in the white house

    Who has done more harm than good to the Bill of Rights. Granted, it is at the will of the people, and he has been handed difficult times (or at least times when it is easy and popular to do the wrong thing for freedom).

    And the NRA, frankly, is way off target (if you'll forgive the pun). First, their (our, I am a member) single minded focus on the second amendment is, IMHO, misguided. More importantly, their willingness to barter with our freedoms hardly makes them true defenders of our rights, in fact it would be generous to say that they defend the status quo.

    the second amendment is not the part of the Bill of Rights under real attack these days

    The second amendment is very much under attack. I may not bear arms at all in the municipality in which I live. What does "infringe" mean in your language?

    -Peter