Slashdot Mirror


Solaris: Another View

nellardo writes "Solaris is Steven Soderbergh's newest film and ostensibly a major departure for him -- it's a science-fiction film, a remake of the earlier Tarkovsky film of the even earlier Stansilaw Lem novel. Soderbergh is known for his many introspective, character-oriented art house films. His more recent work has been moving towards more marketable Elmore-Leonard-style "thrillers" (including Out of Sight, which is in fact based on a Leonard book, Traffic, and Ocean's Eleven). So a "science fiction film" seems like an inventive departure. Sadly, it isn't - it's more of Soderbergh's usual schtick." Read on for more of nellardo's review.

Fundamentally, it's about a man (George Clooney) mourning about his suicide wife (Natascha McElhone, best known from the incomparably better Ronin). The science fiction is there only to provide a mirror for Clooney's moping about his lost love. It could have been done with drugs, dreams, insanity, spirits, reincarnation, or any number of other conceits (and in other movies, it has been done, with all of those), but Solaris does it with a huge sentient planet capable of reading minds and reforming matter at subatomic levels. What does this stupendous cosmic power do? Create replicas of whoever the people on the nearby space station dream about. Like Clooney's dead wife.

This is a bit like using a Jedi Knight and her light saber to get at a can of soup.

The Jedi Knight and the light saber will definitely get the can, and get it open in a jiffy. But the contents are a mess. And one never seems to have a light saber around when one needs one. Much less a light saber attached to a willing Jedi Knight -- "Follow our mandate from the Jedi Council, we must! Mmmm!"

Like the light saber and the soup can, Solaris the sentient planet mostly just gets in the way of the real substance of the film. Solaris the planet looks pretty on the screen, but so does iTunes when you turn on the visualizations -- they've got about the same level of emotional content. We need clumsy faux-jargon exposition: "Are you or are you not made of sub-atomic particles?" (of course -- everything is made of subatomic particles, usually organized in the form of atoms, duh) -- to even know that Solaris the planet has anything to do with what is going on.

Comparisons with Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey are as inevitable as they are inaccurate. Both films are set in space. And both films have a slow pace, driven largely by beautifully shot scenes of some space-scape. But that's the extent of the similarity. If this is Soderbergh's tribute to Kubrick, it falls short. Thematically, they have little to do with each other. Kubrick's long space shots establish tone and realism for a film shot before the Apollo moon walks. They are always placed to make a point relevant to the plot, whether it is the mind-numbing isolation of a long space journey or a parallel between the first bone weapons of proto-humans and the incomparably more sophisticated weapons of mass destruction of the near future. Soderbergh's long space shots show off some very pretty particle system effects and convince us, over and over again, that, despite all indications to the contrary, this film is taking place in a Strange Place.

What interesting shots Soderbergh does come up with tend to be film-studenty tricks like a dream-like tracking shot that suggests that there might be more than one replica of a particular character. Of course, by the point we start seeing these kinds of shots, we've already seen multiple replicas of the same character come and go. And he never goes anywhere with it. Even the supposedly trick ending is as obvious as the end of The Sixth Sense ("I see dead people" -- well, duh, we can see what the end is right there). Soderbergh brings this loaded gun on stage and never really fires it. The science fiction conceit of this super-powerful planet never goes anywhere.

Which just brings us back to the fact that this isn't really a science fiction movie. It's a character study. Unfortunately, I don't think Clooney's a good enough actor to really pull that off. He's got tremendous charisma and screen presence. But he doesn't do emotional depth well, and when he does, it either comes across as lust (the problem with his role in Out of Sight) or as bad melodrama (which is his problem here). The other actors are decent -- Jeremy Davies is good in a truly neurotic and twitchy role, but saying Jeremy Davies is good at playing neurotic is like saying that Jack Nicholson is good at playing crazy macho -- they can sleep through the role and still do it. McElhone is suitably cryptic, but again, it's something she does well. Viola Davis strikes me as perhaps the best of the lot, but I'm unfamiliar with her work, so she may be similarly snoozing through the role.

Soderbergh started his film career with a bit of sexual obsession, in the highly-regarded sex, lies, and videotape (yes, the title is all in lowercase -- never seen a satisfactory explanation for that little bit of conceit either). In the end, Solaris comes across much the same. Clooney sees McElhone on a train, they play a little eye footsie, and end up going to the same party at the home of a mutual friend. Breathy lines and bare butts soon ensue. Eventually, McElhone kills herself over a misunderstanding (Clooney walks out in a snit and she thinks he's not coming back). This is barely sexual obsession, and more like a pretentious drama student trying to redo the tragedies of Shakespeare. It just isn't compelling, and Clooney getting emotional distraught over it was silly (the New York audience I was with broke out into laughter -- maybe that's just New York cynicism, but I don't think so).

So in the end, what are we left with? Some pretty pictures of a purple planet. George Clooney's angst-ridden mug. A "trick" ending that is broadcast throughout the movie. And a conceit somewhat larger than a fully grown blue whale, lying in the middle of the movie doing nothing.

I wanted to like it, really I did. Soderbergh has done better, and we sure can use better directors on science fiction films than we usually get. Alas, this ain't it.

Slashdot welcomes reader-submitted features and reviews. Thanks to nellardo for this one!

19 of 204 comments (clear)

  1. Why is everyone pushing this film? by Blymie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think LOTR had as many posts about it. What is the big deal with this film?

    As any time I see something over advertised and the salesman yelling "Please, please, just take a look, oh PLEASE take a look, I BEG YOU", I run the other way, and FAST.

    Subliminal advertising? OSDN invested in the film? Someone knows someone, and is trying to "help" spread the word? Whatever the case, it is too much hype for me.

    It's turned me off. Sort of like when you see the same commercial 10 times in an hour TV show. It is usually the last time I buy that product (if I ever did).

    1. Re:Why is everyone pushing this film? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I don't think LOTR had as many posts about it. What is the big deal with this film?

      I think the big deal is that alot of people were anticipating this film. The earlier Tarkovsky version was a (flawed) masterpiece, and the book is a classic. That, and it's rare to get real SF in the theatres -- we were already treated to Minority Report this year, so naturally alot of people were hoping for some more excellent SF to come out.

      When a remake of a classic SF movie comes out, naturally alot of people are going to be excited.

    2. Re:Why is everyone pushing this film? by MortisUmbra · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is the dumbest thing I read since....well since I read the rview that started this thread. You do realize NEITHER of the reviews posted here on Slashdot were exactly positive right? So how you drew line between two iffy/bad reviews and endorsement or backing of the film is beyond me.

      --

      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
    3. Re:Why is everyone pushing this film? by joshsisk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Subliminal advertising? OSDN invested in the film? Someone knows someone, and is trying to "help" spread the word? Whatever the case, it is too much hype for me.

      Huh? Did I miss something, or haven't all the reviews for the film posted on here been NEGATIVE? Not a great way to advertise your film, having people post negative reviews of it...

  2. A few things... (also, the book Solaris) by MarvinMouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He does take shots that pay homage to the 2001 movie. Albeit, like you say, he doesn't do a quality job of them. Like the shots where he in his suit, and they have a close up of his helmet. The lighting and pretty much everything in that scene matches up with another scene in 2001.

    Other than that though, I was quite disappointed with this movie. Esp. considering I was waiting for it to come out. The book Solaris is far better than the movie. I just found the movie was trying to hit on far too many points to successfully get any one particular one well.

    There is a discussion of the existance and substance of God throughout the movie (with Solaris being a "God-like" entity)

    There is a question of nihilism that slides through, but really isn't hit upon well.

    There are "Star Trek"-like scenes, where all of a sudden a buch of techno-babble is spouted that solves everything and advances the plot.

    But overall, he seems to be trying to discuss the existance of love, and what love is... Personally, I feel he failed miserably, or his definition of love is quite shallow.

    The book Solaris, written by Lem, a French author (Thus, you'd need to be able to read French or find a translation to read it.) is a good book, and I recommend that it is worth reading.

    The movie on the other hand... Well... like the review says... :-)

    --
    ~ kjrose
    1. Re:A few things... (also, the book Solaris) by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I saw the film last week, and then I picked up the Criterion edition of the Tarkovsky version, which I hadn't seen in a while. Solaris is not Tarkovsky's best by any means - he was disappointed by it, and Lem didn't like it at all - but it is still far and away a better film than the Soderbergh version.

      My biggest disappointments with the Soderbergh version are the lackluster script, and an overall failure in cinematography. Tarkovsky fills in his sparse scripts with a mastery of the camera that is truly breathtaking - he practically paints the screen with the camera, and it's that visual poetry that makes his films effective, with relatively little dialogue or exposition. Soderbergh just tried to hold a camera still at certain points to create a feeling of profundity, misunderstanding completely both Kubrick's and Tarkovsky's technique. I was almost embarassed for him.

      The new version wasn't a total failure. The acting was effective, the dialogue acceptable. It's still better than 90% of the so-called science fiction cinema out there. But compared to the master it was really hoping to compete with, it fell short.

  3. not a scifi flick by frenetic3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    sigh. looking at it from a sci fi perspective you're going to be disappointed. the sci fi element is just a vehicle for the philosophical questions the movie raises (and then doesn't really answer, leaving me pretty confused at the end as to the point.)

    the film was an interesting "journey", but not one with a very defined destination. i don't think it needs to get rocked as badly as it has in these slashdot reviews

    -fren

    --
    "Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?"
    1. Re:not a scifi flick by Czernobog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You misunderstand. The answers are not meant to be given.
      Films, books, art or discourse in general, that pose questions of a philosophical nature have one purpose.
      To educate. How to go about it? Making you think. Giving you food for thought.
      If the questions were given, this would just be another Hollywood blockbuster flick, that chews the food for you and then feeds it to you.

      --
      /. Where the truth
  4. The review seems to have missed the point by Starky · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I could not disagree with the review more. It was a smart, thoughtful, considered movie which effectively portrayed complex issues in a way that Hollywood is typically unable (or unwilling) to do.


    The criticism of the premise could as well apply to Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" and every other episode of Star Trek. In fact, the characters explicitly question why Solaris would be doing what it is doing, why if it has such capabilities it didn't just destroy the space station or choose some other way to engage the characters. They are eventually left with the conclusion that there may not be an answer that they can understand, though they continue to struggle for understanding. That process of trying to understand is exactly the human dilemma that the film as art is trying to explore.


    The role was a gutsy move for George Clooney and the subject matter itself was not the kind of thing someone would expect from a major director who is undoubtedly under pressure from the studios to provide the world with action-packed blockbusters. If you enjoy movies such as "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Being There" in which the subject matter and pacing is more about intellectual and artistic achievement than maximizing profits, you will enjoy this movie.


    I think the reviewer entirely missed the point and recommend this film to anyone who enjoys thoughtful, provocative films.

    --
    -- My choice of computing platform is a symbol of my individuality and belief in personal freedom.
  5. I haven't seen Solaris, but... by JordanH · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I find this review incomprehensible.
    • What does this stupendous cosmic power do? Create replicas of whoever the people on the nearby space station dream about. Like Clooney's dead wife.

      This is a bit like using a Jedi Knight and her light saber to get at a can of soup.

    The best Science Fiction, IMO, puts the familiar against a backdrop of the strange. How can we possibly understand the motivations of a planetary intelligence with this cosmic power? Maybe it's Solaris' idea of an experiment, or perhaps entertainment of some sort. I suppose our pets wonder why we use our cosmic powers to eat celery or watch TV. No, our pets are more sensible than amateur movie reviewers and don't bother to wonder at things they can't understand.

    What is happening here is strange in the extreme and is just a given. What's interesting is how the characters deal with it.

    • Which just brings us back to the fact that this isn't really a science fiction movie. It's a character study.

    Gee, maybe it's both a science fiction movie AND a character study? Are they necessarily mutually exclusive? What's the problem? Not the requisite lack of depth in the characters for a science fiction movie?

  6. another disappointing review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    the reviewer seems to dislike solaris because it's not star wars or the matrix or someother piece of hollywood fluff. mind you, i haven't seen the soderbergh film -- i won't until it makes it to airplanes, and i'll hate it -- but if it's at all faithful to the book or the tarkovsky film, it can't help being a more serious sort of science fiction. i think that's what the reviewer is really complaining about.

    now, any seti grinder would tell you that one of the most intriguing aspects of space exploration is the possibility of encountering beings totally Other than ourselves. the book and the tarkovsky film ask whether we can really understand anyone or anything. it goes without saying that kelvin and the others have failed to understand and communicate with solaris. moreover, kelvin has failed to understand his wife in either incarnation. because he has failed in that most basic task, he loses his own moorings. in this sense, the psychological bits are absolutely central to the science fiction.

    perhaps this sort of philosophical science fiction has more in common with other genres than more familiar science fiction tends to have. even if that's true, that's not a bad thing. how many times can you watch star wars? (which is just a recycled western anyway?)

    nor does it mean that it's unlike other science fiction. look at 2001. in some way, all of the stories deal with human encounters with the non-human. there's a nietzschean thread running through 2001, but there's also a pessimism about the encounter with the Other. kubrick seems to be saying that when we do have that first encounter, we'll deal with it in the same way we deal with everything else: we'll send bureaucrats. in essense, kubrick is still operating in the satirical mode, and that is what makes 2001 most different from solaris.

  7. YANSR by kungfuBreaks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look, it's a YANSR -- Yet Another Negative Solaris Review. How is this 'another view', exactly? The first Solaris-related story (a few months ago) concluded that 'it'll probably suck'. The recent review proclaimed that 'it sucks' (in so many words), and now this 'new perspective' reveals that -- whoa there -- it _really_ sucks.

    I mean, come on. Soderbergh guilty of being a film student (I guess I'll have to boycott Taxi Driver and Raging Bull from now on)? A 'trick' ending (I'd love to hear an explanation of what was so 'tricky' about it)? A cynical, jaded New York audience not giving George 'what a plebeian' Clooney the benifit of the doubt (SHOCK!! HORROR!!!)?

    Granted, the movie does have some very real faults (hint: it's not the 'conceit somewhat larger than a fully grown blue whale'. God, that's the worst fucking simile I've ever had the misfortune to chance upon). Sadly however, none of them are addressed in this 'new review'. On the other hand, it _is_ so terrifically 'biting', 'cutting' and 'cynical' in that wonderful New York way we all know and love -- I should think that alone places it a cut above the sort of review that attempts to honestly 'discuss' the 'content' of the 'movie at hand'.

    Perhaps 'Solaris bashing' should be added to the list of Slashdot topics. I can see it now:

    Step 1: Bash Solaris
    Step 2: Bash Solaris some more
    Step 3: Profit!!

    or maybe even

    IN SOVIET RUSSIA, Solaris bashes YOU!

    P.S.
    For a far more balanced (if not uncritical) perspective, you might try
    the Salon review

  8. Re:Stinking PC by BreakWindows · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's wrong for women to feel offended if someone says "his", but it's equally fucking stupid for you to be offended that someone wrote "her".

    If it's no big deal, why did you feel the need to post? There's nothing politically correct about using the feminine gender, just as their is nothing politically incorrect about male gender. The poster didn't make any sort of political statement, and (ironically enough) it wouldn't have occured to anyone if you hadn't pointed out that, proper English be damned, the male gender is the one you prefer.
    So, take some solace, friend: you're both morons.

    Incidentally, I'll agree that the PC and Solaris just shouldn't go together.

  9. Re:Goddammit by Bicoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apparently Neuromancer has a Sci-Fi setting but isn't Sci-Fi, because it makes use of a lot of philosophy. Apparently Stranger in a Strange Land isn't Sci-Fi either. Or Ender's Game. Or anything by Phil K. Dick. Or anything by Harlan Ellison. I mean, these aren't sci-fi...they aren't nonstop space battles and good-vs-evil. They're complex character and philosophy driven material. So I guess they're just not sci-fi, huh?

    Truth is, Star Wars isn't even Sci-Fi by the general definition; it's a space opera. Sci-fi (with the exception of the original Gernsbackian stuff) has almost always had some degree of philosophy and exploration of the persona. So Solaris isn't Star Wars. Big deal.

    --
    If not all sentients are human, couldn't it be possible that not all humans are sentient either?
  10. Re:The russian origial by cenobita · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and it's for this very reason that i won't touch the new one.

    andrei tarkovsky was an amazing, one-of-a-kind director. it makes me absolutely sick to see yet ANOTHER great foreign film being remade like this. they did it to "insomnia", too, which features the remarkable stellan skaarsgaard. it's one of my favorite movies, alongside many of the films of andrei tarkovsky and krzystof kieslowski. the new one, from what i can tell from the previews for it, completely missed the point. christ, robin williams is cast as the "villian"! i won't spoil the movie by saying why this is completely untrue to the original, but if anyone else here sees it/has seen it, you will hopefully understand what i'm getting at.

    is it so hard for the average american to watch subtitles? is the reading ability of the average citizen so low that they can't quickly read a line of text, and still pay attention to what's going on in a film?

    y'know, i'm sure soderbergh's intent was probably just to put out his own take on the original novel..but i can't help but feel it's just "another one". another sad attempt to cash in on a great foreign film, and make it acceptable for the average, illiterate american. it really sucks to see films that i love essentially being reduced to just a watered down copy.

    after working for a video store for 2 years, though, i'm not surprised. true to "clerks", most customers pick out the most intellectually devoid movies out there: "ooh, double jeopardy! ooh, the santa clause!" pff.

  11. NOT splitting hairs by SkulkCU · · Score: 5, Insightful


    nonsensical

    Not only that, it's just plain WRONG.

    Fundamentally, it's about a man mourning about his suicide wife

    No; it's not. The film is about IDENTITY. How we perceive ourselves and others. The vehicle is their relationship.

    Anybody who missed that shouldn't be writing a review. Then again, I'm not surprised; most of the people in the theater were too distracted by what they thought the movie was about (ooh! Clooney!).

    Don't get me wrong, this movie isn't great, but the concept is interesting. It requires a bit of thought OUTSIDE what's on the celluloid. People, I've discovered, are wholly incapable of that.

    Sorry for the rant, I am.

    --
    .sig last updated Jan. 14, 2000
  12. Re:Worst butchering of a book I've ever seen by Avumede · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are correct, but basically to make an accurate portrayal of the book would be extremely long and probably boring. This movie does the right thing - it focuses on one aspect of the book, and hints at the rest. If it did too much, it would surely lose focus.

  13. Art house? by CausticWindow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I haven't seen this new version of Solaris, so excuse me for being somewhat off-topic. Why is it that 'Americans' automaticly use 'art house', to describe somthing that isn't Hollywood gloss?

    --
    How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
  14. Poor Review by divisionbyzero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Basically, this review tells us that the author expected something different from what he got. Perhaps he had the wrong expectations? Of course, this might also be due to the way the move is being marketed... It also seems like he couldn't imagine Soderbergh as a sci-fi director and went into it trying to see how Soderbergh failed. I haven't seen it yet, but this review certainly won't dissuade me.