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Wi-Fi Spreading Fast But Lacks Profits

clapton_fan writes "The New York Times has a story that details the spread of wireless networks but says the concept has been short on profits thus far. Its growth is mainly attributable to homes and small businesses. Corporations are reluctant to embrace them because of security concerns. Meanwhile, Intel is planning to have every device that uses an Intel chip Wi-Fi enabled which will make it difficult for companies that sell Wi-Fi as an accessory to prosper."

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  1. Who cares if it's profitable? by gpinzone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is everyone concerned about these companies being profitable? Let's get Wifi into as many hands as possible. The faster wireless networks can grow, the faster we can shit-can cable and phone companies and their arbitrary caps.

  2. Re:Wi-Fi as accessory? by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >> and as such, the video card and sound card industries flail in lack of funds.

    You're being sarcastic, but they have suffered.

    We're down to NVidia and ATI for video, Creative Labs and Santa Cruz for audio. And both are pretty much stuck to producing 'higher end' cards geared at gamers or audiophiles, respectively.

    For the average office type desktop box, what's onboard is more than adequate. 6 channel AC97 and 64 megs shared-ram agp video is pretty hefty when you're just making up excel spreadsheets all day.

    Remember the cirrus logic, trident, savage, et al 2 meg workstation cards? Fire up the original dos version of Doom and look at all the different sound cards you had to choose from. All gone, all obsolete.

    Also, I don't think this is just internal usage. They're after integrated 802.11 just like one has integrated ethernet on the mobo. I envision a place to screw your antenna in on the rear IO panel.

    Which I'm all for. PCI cards take up too much room. We need to pave the way for smaller form factors.

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  3. Reminds me by XNormal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The internet was also another technology that was spreading fast but failed to bring lots of profits. Most of the money moving around was investments, not actual revenue. There are no easy profits. There are always competitors, margins are razor-thin and even if you are doing well you need to watch your back for the one that will bring you down. In other words - business as usual.

    That is, of course, unless you found some way to create a monopoly and maintain it. Monopolists are the only ones that get the goose that lays golden eggs. WiFi is not going to be that goose.

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  4. Color me clueless, but... by TVmisGuided · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, let's make this plain off the top...this post is probably at least 75% pure, unadulterated flamebait. Having said that...

    What is so hot about WiFi, anyway? I mean, I can see it for corporate and educational campuses, letting Joe or Jane User pop a card into their laptop, tablet, etc. and access the 'Net from wherever they happen to plop their arses. Email between colleagues, data-sharing for study groups and all that...those are the benefits of WiFi in those places. Beyond that, what's wrong with tried-and-true copper? Does everyone really need a wireless Ethernet adapter for their desktop box? I know I don't; I get along fabulously with a 10/100 switch feeding packets to the various boxen in the house, and it's good enough for server testing, print sharing and the occasional fragfest.

    My own position on the matter: For the 40% (my own estimate) of the American populace that has two or more boxen in the home and wants to network them, the best means is Cat5 in the walls. No interference from such sources as lightning, mercury lamps, microwave ovens, cordless phones and so on, no security risks with someone wardriving by and trying to crack in (yes, it's a remote concern here, but according to some "experts" it's also a valid concern), and in the long run it's a damn sight cheaper. So someone wants to plug a laptop into the network...what's so hard about leaving a length of cable dangling off the hub? 100baseT, 16-port hubs are well within the financial reach of anyone who can afford to run three computers in the home.

    Don't get me wrong here...I think the technology for 802.11b is a Very Good Thing Indeed. But Average Keyboard Pounders don't need it for most applications. Copper's cheaper, more reliable and keeps the snoops at bay.

    These are all my own, personal and (probably) minority views on the matter...YMMV.
    'Nuff said.

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    1. Re:Color me clueless, but... by richieb · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What is so hot about WiFi, anyway?

      Imagine a wireless mesh network covering the whole continent. Now you can get your data from one of the country to the other without going through any wires at all!

      If the routers are simply devices that everyone owns, and if enough of them are on all the time, you have a free connection between any of those devices.

      If you need more bandwidth we only need to allocate a large part of the spectrum (after all the spectrum belongs to the public and corps just rent it - let's evict them).

      Now throw in voice over IP and you have free telephone connections everywhere (just buy the right kind of hand set).

      I can think of whole bunch of other uses, and I'm sure there are people with better imagination than me.

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    2. Re:Color me clueless, but... by yack0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > What is so hot about WiFi, anyway?

      I can go home and open my laptop and be on the net.
      I can come to the office, open my laptop and I'm on the net.
      I can go to three of my friends houses with wifi, open my laptop and I'm on the net.
      I don't need to run cable.
      I dont need to worry about finding the hub.
      I dont need to worry about reconfiguring anything.
      It just plain works for me.

      It's changed my work habits vastly. I don't sit at a linux X machine anymore, I just use my iBook and do things on the couch, the dining room table, the office, the bedroom, the toilet, even outside on the deck - I'm not tied into my desk with wires.

      And on top of that, I can walk around any major city and get internet access from people who allow me to have free access (I ask for IP's and they implicitly allow me in by granting me an IP - this isn't flame bait - just how I see it). It's nice.

      Wireless has changed the way I use computers. No longer am I tied to one place in my office or my home, I can work or play in comfort.

      HTH

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  5. Re:How long do you think... by goon+america · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Won't happen. Unlike power lines, there is no limit to the number of WiFi providers operating in a given area, so competition among different providers is possible and desirable. Think of cellphone access as a model here, not local telephone service.

  6. Re:How long do you think... by brain159 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    on the contrary, there are only a limited number of 802.11b channels available, and only 3 of those don't mutually interfere. If 3 cellphone companies saturate those channels, there's no room left for community WLAN projects apart from point-to-point high gain pringles-can project. you could, if you really wanted to, run new parallel power lines to sell electricity down - there's not nearly enough available spectrum for wifi to gain massive widespread use. Also, my current wifi network consists of 2 Belkin USB wifi thingies seperated by one wall and 3', and I get a 1-2 second dropout every couple of minutes which makes it pretty much useless for UT2003! Anyone got similar issues?

  7. Re:How long do you think... by roseblood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "802.11 is FREE, all you need to do is buy a lousy wireless NIC and an AP. After that you get 10mbps, instead of crappy unreliable 1.5mbps "

    Odd. I just put a 802.11 card in my computer. I got NO BANDWITH. Turns out the only way I'm going to get any connectivity on my wi-fi card is if I connect another node to an old-school source of bandwith (Cable modem, DSL modem, a computer with dial-up.)

    Turns out that 802.11 is just another protocoll, not a magical source of 10mpbs bandwith. If you want to get 10mbps out of the 802.11 hardware, you're going to need 10mbps+ of some other sort of data-pipe. Perhaps 10 of your neighbors have 10 wi-fi cards connected to their "crappy unreiable 1.5mbps" cable modems. 802.11 is all about leeching ALOT from your neighbors while they leech a little back from you.

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