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Old and New Technology in the Land of None

ninthwave writes "The Guardian has this article on the adventures of piano tuners in the Amazon. I think it is a nice lesson in the age of technology to see the perceived hardships of using technology in areas where the natives are quite happy without. More impressive is the old wooden piano seems to survive better than the new synth but that is horse of a different colour."

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  1. pianos and technology? by nogoodmonkey · · Score: 0, Interesting

    If that article had a point, I never got to it. I was too bored and stopped reading at "Do you have any idea how much those things weigh?".

    It must be a slow news day.

  2. all wrong, all wrong! by frotty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You're supposed to put a STARBUCKS in a neighborhood when you want to increase the TIF funding attractiveness, not a piano!

    Why does this remind me of some sort of
    "Catholocism spreading to the brutes" scenario of a few centuries ago? Oh, wait, because it is that.

    I guess them savage folks needed to understand the Word of God, I mean, it's our duty to inform them that they're going about living all wrong.

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  3. Pianos and humidity by ThinkingGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember reading an article years ago about people in Japan donating old pianos, mostly to southeast Asia (There had been a boom in piano sales in Japan a while back, when many parents were signing their kids up for piano lessons, but with the boom over, most of these pianos sat unused in Japanese homes).
    The problem was that pianos made for sale in Japan didn't handle the humid climate of southeast Asia and often became warped, as the one in the Amazon did.
    I think it also mentioned some kind of treatment that can be done to the pianos at the manufacture time, to help strengthen them in humid climates.

  4. Oranges to tangerines, then? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    People want PIANOs that can produce a wide range of sounds. That's why synths exist. Here are some features on modern day keyboard that prove my point:
    weighted keys: so that it feels the same as a piano. You can't feel the hammers hitting the strings, you can only feel how hard it is to press the keys. Modern synths have this.
    touch sensitivity:Harder hit means more sound...like a piano.
    88 keys:There's no reason that a synth should have so many keys, since it is usually portable, and thre isn't a lot of synth-only music (meaning that the range could be dictated by the instrument). Unless, of course, its a replacement for the piano.

    This doesn't apply to all keyboards because all of these features are rather expensive. But most good keyboard players get their keyboards with all of these features. Saying they're not the same is like saying that a piano wasn't a replacement for the harpsichord (which could only play one volume).

    Interesting how we name our keyed instruments - based upon whatever feature they have that the previous instrument didn't. Pianos where originally called "forte-pianos," and synths...

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    1. Re:Oranges to tangerines, then? by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm a professional pianist and I can tell you that you're all wrong.

      • On a real piano, you don't "feel the hammers hitting the strings". There's an "escapement mechanism" that releases the hammer before it hits the strings. There's no mechanical linkage between key and hammer at the actual moment of impact. Inertia carries it there.
      • Harder hit doesn't mean more sound. FASTER hit does. This is how a concert pianist can play for hours without killing his hands and wrists. Want more sound? Lift your fingers higher so they press the keys faster.
      • A synth is not a piano. It's an instument--usually contolled by a keyboard--that can produce a wide range of sounds.
      I cannot perform on a fake piano. It has to be real. No "good keyboard player" has ever learned to play on anything but a real piano. At least none that I ever met.
  5. feedback by carlcmc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm sorry, but you are mistaken in saying that the feedback of hammers hitting the strings cannot be reproduced. While I might be healthcare, i also play classical music on the piano, and for 2500 you can get a digital piano that has as good if not better feedback as your standard uprights in the same price range. Granted a grand piano is better, but what percentage of people are able to afford a 15k to 20k grand piano?. A digital piano such as a korg for instance never requires tuning, has excellent feed back and record and play back. I suppose you may have been talking just about synths that have keys but no feed back, but i wanted to respond to the misconeption that you can't get great feed back with digital.

  6. I have a piano and live in amazon, but i�m lucky.. by the+cobaltsixty · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Belem, the largest city within the Amazon Rainforest, with two million inhabitants. For about nine years, i also played piano and almost became a classical pianist. But then i left in order to have more time to spend at the computer.

    There are two piano tuners in my city. One has serious hearing problems, which is weird. The other one looks weird, because hes not brazilian, but russian. But i heard hes a good tuner.

    Keeping a piano is a challenging task. The climate has much air humidity, the wood helps changing its sounds. Also, we have problems with the extreme heat... But anyway, thats not impossible.

    There were two piano factories in brazil, and the most popular, Essenfelder, got bankrupt. The remaing, Fritz Dobbert, still exists. There are in my city two music schools, Carlos Gomes and the Federal University of Para Music School (EMUFPA). I used to study at the later one. They still have a really beautiful Yamaha piano there. When they were about to buy, i've heart they had to make a poll to choose whether to buy a white or a wooden one. Thank god, the wooden is there.

    Disclaimer: I have nothing against people who think theyre trendy about white pianos, but sure Def Leppard making a Video with a white piano is a shame

  7. Open Source virtual piano tuner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    openDK() lets you use your *NIX system to takedown out-of-tune piano's.

    thankn you

  8. Juju magic seems more effective than modern tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "But I could never track down the fault, let alone fix it. I wrestled with the Korg on and off for more than a fortnight, right until the eve of the fundraising concert, when one of the Wai Wai somehow got it working."

    Hmm, all these uber-geeks and no one else found it curious that an unknowledgable aboriginal fixes an electronic device that they couldn't possible understand? Anyone care to explain? Btw, no, I don't buy the "gave it a good whack" excuse.

    yet another x-file ...

  9. Re:Not a hard choice by skivvie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That story did nothing but depress me. Leave these people the f**k alone! They were doing fine for thousands of years living a natural life... and their most cherished possession is a piano?? Please. This paragraph made me wanna punch someone.

    "When our 11-strong team landed at Gunn's Strip, it seemed as if the whole of the tribe had turned out to meet us. But if any of us had been expecting half-naked, blowpipe-wielding savages, we were disappointed. The American missionaries who converted the tribe in the 1950s taught them Christian modesty, and they now favour shorts and T-shirts, largely supplied by visitors and aid agencies. The footwear of choice is the plastic flip-flop."

    Good ol' Christian missionaries.

  10. Re:Not a hard choice by 5KVGhost · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why are you offended? Give the natives some credit for their ability to make rational choices. They aren't museum exhibits or zoo specimens.