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Human-Computer Interfaces From 2003 to 2012

Roland Piquepaille writes "My favorite forecaster, Gartner, is back with a new series of predictions about the way we'll interact with our computing devices. Here is the introduction. 'Human-computer interfaces will rapidly improve during the next decade. The wide availability of cheaper display technologies will be one of the most transformational events in the IT industry.' Not exactly a scoop, isn't? But wait, here is a real prediction. 'Computer screens will become ubiquitous in the everyday environment.' Ready for another prediction? 'Through 2012, more than 95 percent (by volume in gigabytes) of human-to-computer information input will remain keyboard- and mouse-based.' Check this column for a summary."

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  1. frist prost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    frist prost

  2. Universal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Bah weep grana weep nini baum!

  3. poo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    poo

  4. In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    computers interface you!

  5. how about "licenses of the future" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    forget the technology, how about "softwrae licenses of the future"?

    I was just reading a license that read the following: "16. Survival. Sections 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19 shall survive any termination or expiration of this Agreement."

    How the fuck can parts of a license "survive" termination of the license? WTF??? Forget this, I'm sticking with the GPL.

    I can't wait to see how we'll be screwed in the year 2012.

  6. 2012 by linuxcoder · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    No sense looking beyond 2012. Everybody knows the world will end on 12/21/2012.

  7. I think by sawilson · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Things will get more modular, kinda like the
    handspring. People are slowly getting more tech
    savvy. That will lend itself to people wanting
    to upgrade their machines more easily. I can see
    video cards, drives, memory, etc, all being in
    cartridge format and snapped into your caselike
    box thing from the outside with no need to open
    anything up.

  8. blah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that is the worst prediction I have ever heard....

  9. THANK YOU USA! by DrunkenPenguin · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ..for BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN and THE E-STREET BAND! We're having a Christmas party here in Finland and the house is *ROCKING* - thanks to Bruce's records!

    Mod this down if you really have to - We just felt like we _needed_ to say that even nerds can have fun on weekends ;) Greetings flies to New Jersey ;) Happy Christmas and Merry New Year!

    We're a bit drunk, but hey - we're having fun ;)
    ----

  10. VLADEQUACY RAW & UNCUT 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    [luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female
    [luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
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    [county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
    [luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
    [luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
    [luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
    [Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
    [county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
    [county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
    [Linux] shouting and threatening tones
    [Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
    [county] What bust?
    [Linux] dunno
    [Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
    [county] Who?
    [Linux] maybe there will be death
    [Linux] cops
    [Linux] many of them
    [Linux] 8 cars at least
    [luisa|||] eek
    [Linux] maybe I'll get shot
    [county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
    [Linux] yes
    [Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
    [luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
    [luisa|||] it would all work out
    [Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
    [luisa|||] wait
    [luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
    [luisa|||] that is Not Right.
    [Linux] i think so
    * luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
    [county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
    [Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
    [county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
    [county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
    [luisa|||] you could be inferior
    [luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
    [luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
    [county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
    [county] Come on.
    [luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
    [luisa|||] nah, you are just different
    [luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
    [luisa|||] that's inferior
    [luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
    [Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
    [county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
    [luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
    [luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
    [em] you guys still going on about this? God.
    [county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
    [luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
    [luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
    [em] neither am I.
    [luisa|||] but you are at uni
    [county] em, have you been drinking?
    [em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
    [em] county: not a drop
    [em] maybe I should.
    [county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
    [luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
    [luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
    [luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
    [county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
    [county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
    [luisa|||] if you feel that you are
    [luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
    [luisa|||] but i just finished supper
    * em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
    [luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
    [Linux] katsup is a vegetable
    [luisa|||] only for bachelors
    [luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
    [county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
    [luisa|||] okbed
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    [Linux] night, wheesie
    [Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
    [county] Oh, I'm sure.
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    [Marco`] Hi
    [Marco`] Anyone alive?
    * Marco` 's off
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    [me0w] g'morning
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    [bc] hello
    [me0w] Hi bc
    [bc] hellow me0wsy
    * bc was just in the pub
    [bc] and you know what?
    [me0w] What?
    [bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
    [bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
    [me0w] Ahhh ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations ..
    [bc] certainly not :)
    [me0w] Well done!
    [bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
    [bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
    [bc] cool
    [bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
    [me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
    [bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
    [bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
    * bc has some prawns
    [me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
    [bc] hehe
    [me0w] cast = vast
    [bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
    [me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble.
    [bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
    [me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
    [bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
    [me0w] And the licking ...
    [bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
    [me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
    [me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
    [bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
    [bc] mm that was tasty
    [bc] post-prandial smoke time
    [me0w] enjoy
    * bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
    [bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
    [bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
    [me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
    [bc] it's supposed to be decent.
    [bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
    [me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
    [bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
    [me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
    [bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
    [bc] they discover an alien signal
    [bc] this woman does
    [bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
    [bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
    [bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
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    [bc] hey ct
    [me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
    [bc] el capitano
    [Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
    [Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
    * Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
    [bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
    [Captain_Tenille] ?
    [bc] I am not admirably offensive
    * Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
    [me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
    [Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
    [Captain_Tenille] Yawn
    [Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
    [Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
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    [me0w] they leave so quickly
    [bc] yes
    [me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
    [bc] Catch 22 then
    [bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it :\
    [me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
    [me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
    [me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
    [bc] hehe
    * bc is writing a ranty comment
    [me0w] Will it be exciting?
    [bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
    [bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
    [bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
    [me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
    [bc] yay
    [bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928/ 674/65#65
    [bc] there you go me0w
    [me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
    [bc] woohoo!
    [bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
    [bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
    [bc] infinitera is a twat
    [me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
    [bc] it's possible ;)
    [me0w] For some anyway
    [me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
    [bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
    [bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
    [bc] it's all just a laugh
    [me0w] It is all for my amusement
    [bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
    [me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
    [bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
    [me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
    [bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
    [me0w] Brilliant!
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    [bc] hi, gurrrrl
    [gurl] hullo, you
    [me0w] Hello
    [gurl] christ i overslept
    [bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
    [gurl] twelve thirty
    [bc] damn firemen
    [bc] striking bastards, is what they are
    [bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
    [me0w] That isn't good.
    [me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
    [bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
    [bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
    [bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
    [me0w] 21,000 is far too little
    [bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
    [bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
    [bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
    [bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
    [me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
    [me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
    [bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
    [bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
    [bc] policemen £17,000
    [me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
    [me0w] The train people should get less.
    [bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
    [bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
    [bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
    [me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers
    [bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
    [gurl] er, no.
    [bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
    [gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
    [bc] they'd pay fairly
    [gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
    [me0w] nurses are underpaid
    [gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
    [bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
    [me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
    [gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
    [gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
    [gurl] not everyone can hack it
    [gurl] thus, the shortage
    [bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
    [bc] where they get paid decently
    [me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
    [bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
    [gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
    [gurl] well, the countries in that region
    [bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
    [gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
    [bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
    [gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
    [bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
    [bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
    [gurl] for a bed
    [bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
    [bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
    [bc] that thing was great
    [bc] prolly quite cheap, too
    [gurl] i just want a futon
    [bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
    [me0w] Get a sturdy futon
    [me0w] Over time the frame can bend
    [gurl] i was thinking a metal one
    [me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
    [bc] cool
    * bc watches Only Fools and Horses
    [gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
    [bc] hehe
    [gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
    [gurl] and buy a new mattress
    [bc] heh. Sounds good
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    [gurl] it's a gorgeous day
    [gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
    [bc] I love that
    [bc] cold and clear
    [bc] and sunny
    [bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
    [bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
    [gurl] he friend zoned me
    [bc] ah hah
    [bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
    [gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
    [bc] well that's something at least
    [bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
    [gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
    [bc] oh splendid
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
    [bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
    [bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
    [gurl] it is terribly intensive
    [bc] yes
    [bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
    [gurl] and no girls allowed!
    [bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
    [bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
    [bc] they are insane
    [bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
    [bc] quite sadistic ;)
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] there's a kill house?!
    [bc] they are special forces
    [bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
    [bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
    [bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
    [gurl] lordy
    [bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
    [bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
    [bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
    [bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.ht ml
    [bc] ^that was mad
    [bc] I remember watching it on tv
    [gurl] so the sas do it properlike
    [gurl] well, more like people think such things work
    [bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
    [bc] it's sort of amazing
    [bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
    [bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
    [bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
    [bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
    [bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
    [bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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    [gurl] damn
    [bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
    [gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
    [bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
    [Captain_Tenille] SAS?
    [bc] yes
    [gurl] british special forces
    [Captain_Tenille] Aha
    * Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
    [bc] hehe
    [Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
    [Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
    [bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
    [bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
    [Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
    [gurl] heh
    [bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
    [gurl] haha
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    [gurl] oh look@
    [gurl] er, nevermind
    [Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
    [bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
    [Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
    [bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
    [bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
    [bc] but SAS are teh best!
    [gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
    [Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
    [Captain_Tenille] ?
    [bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
    [bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
    [bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
    [bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
    [Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
    [Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
    * Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
    [bc] coo
    [gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
    [bc] haha
    [bc] what'd he do?
    [gurl] his warrant caught up to him
    [bc] damn
    [gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
    [Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
    [county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
    [bc] he deserves it, county
    [bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
    [county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
    [bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
    [gurl] bc, he found a job
    [gurl] and now he will lose it
    [gurl] because of extended absence
    [bc] damn it
    [bc] what's he fined for?
    [Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
    [bc] isn't that classified, ct?
    [Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
    [gurl] speeding ticket, i think
    [Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
    [Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
    [zuul] he is not
    [bc] but he was army, eh? mad
    [Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
    [gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
    [Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
    [Captain_Tenille] er, he
    [county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
    [county] He's trying to turn is life around!
    [county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
    [bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
    [county] Good man.
    [county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
    [gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
    [county] But you're too old for that.
    [bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
    [gurl] yeah, pretty much
    [gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
    [county] And she wants more.
    [gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
    [gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
    [bc] weird, gurl
    [gurl] aye
    [bc] weird weird weird
    [gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
    [county] So are you going to take her up on it?
    [gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
    [gurl] she is rather like mother
    [gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
    [county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
    [gurl] not quite
    [gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
    [gurl] with a broken neck
    [bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
    [gurl] well, he is married
    [gurl] and also i don't want him
    [gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
    [bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
    [county] That's really harsh.
    [bc] it's damned right, gurl
    [county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
    [bc] I'm proud of you!
    [county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
    [gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
    [gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
    [gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
    [gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
    [gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
    [gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
    [county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
    [gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
    [gurl] and makes piles of money
    [gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
    [county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
    [county] That seems risky.
    [gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
    [county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
    [county] Having one could be convenient.
    [gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
    [county] Some guys have all the luck.
    [bc] hehe
    [gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
    [bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
    [county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
    [county] I'm tired of being responsible.
    [bc] BRB, mobile shop
    [gurl] have a beer
    [gurl] actually, have five or six
    [county] What's a mobile shop?
    [county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
    [gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
    [gurl] women like to help men in that state
    [county] Haha!
    [county] What nonsense.
    [county] Women hate drunks.
    [gurl] depends on the drunk boy
    [gurl] i find some of them endearing
    [bc] damn it's cold
    [county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
    [county] What's a mobile shop, though?
    [bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
    [county] uh huh
    [bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
    [county] What sort of things?
    [bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
    [county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
    [county] tsk tsk.
    [bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
    [county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
    [county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
    [bc] Yup.
    [county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
    [bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
    [bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
    [gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
    [bc] poll? hmmn
    [county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
    [bc] favourite spirit?
    [gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
    [county] That would be all you can think of.
    [bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
    [bc] so it isn't surprising
    [county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
    [bc] it contains too much iron, or something
    [county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
    [wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
    [bc] it's very very popular in russia though
    [Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
    [bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
    [wsl3] What is?
    [Captain_Tenille] Ah
    [gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
    [gurl] my tummy hurts now
    [wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
    [gurl] i don't see how
    [gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
    [wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
    [gurl] i somehow doubt this.
    [gurl] i love my diary.
    [wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want! :-)
    [county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
    [wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think. :-)
    [county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
    [bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
    [gurl] hehe
    [wsl3] county: Uh huh.
    [gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
    [gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
    [wsl3] Bingo!
    * wsl3 is a FFA
    [gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
    [wsl3] LOL
    [wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
    [gurl] oh god
    [county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
    [gurl] i HATE those
    [wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
    [county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
    [wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
    [county] 300lbs.
    [gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
    [bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
    [county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
    [county] She's hyper-obese.
    [wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
    [gurl] no, that's a porker
    [gurl] i don't know any.
    [county] You don't know any!
    [county] You're delusional.
    [wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
    [gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
    [gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
    [wsl3] gurl: Top size?
    [gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
    [wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
    [gurl] well, men are less picky about that
    [county] I'm not.
    [county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
    [gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
    [gurl] unless they are very slim
    [Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
    [wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
    [Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
    [gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
    [county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
    [wsl3] under, yes.
    [gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
    [county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
    * Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
    [wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much. :-) lol
    [gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
    [gurl] of course you do
    * wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
    [gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
    [Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
    [Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
    [gurl] which is great for them
    [gurl] hasta
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    [bc] woohoo
    [bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
    [gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
    [bc] happy hacking!
    [gurl] well, that is true of anyone
    [county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
    [gurl] there is no hacking involved!
    [county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
    [gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
    [county] If one isn't already.
    [bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
    [gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
    [bc] with what, you say?
    [bc] that sounds complicated
    [gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
    [county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
    [bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
    [gurl] yeah, i guess
    [gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
    [county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
    [county] Chop chop!
    [gurl] i have to finish my beer
    [gurl] ;P
    [county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
    [bc] I think you should go to the pub
    *** gurl is now known as cdromgurl
    [county] It's kind of dismal out.
    [bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
    [cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
    [cdromgurl] wave
    [bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
    [bc] bye happy hackess!
    [county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
    [bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
    [bc] go there
    [wsl3] lol
    [bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
    [bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
    [bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
    [county] That's really far away.
    [bc] get the metro then!
    [county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
    [bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
    [bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
    [bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
    [county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
    [county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
    [wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
    [county] Shut up.
    [wsl3] no
    [wsl3] You can forget about that.
    [wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
    [county] Shut up, really.
    [wsl3] No.
    [wsl3] really.
    [bc] blargle
    [wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
    [bc] heis in London, that's all I know
    [county] I'm going to go shower.
    [county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
    [county] "out"
    [wsl3] ah
    [bc] looking forward to it
    [wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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    [Sulla] hey momo

  11. Amherst-Fag and the Drunken Madras Alumni by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
    Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
    (This is CP0003)

    Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.

    >Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
    >least being invited to join) the list?
    >
    >He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
    >spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
    >seems OK.
    >
    >++tlt
    >
    >Do You Yahoo!?
    >Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
    >or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

    (This is CP0003)

  12. Amherst-Fag and the Mae Ling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
    Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:03:43 -0400
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org

    (This is CP0032)

    Aren't you still doing the Arkansas thing? Doesn't jive....

    Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:

    >Shut up, WILLIAM HENRY GATES. How does STEVE BALMER'S
    >SEMEN taste??? Do you enjoy that AIDS-INFESTED JISM as you
    >MASTURBATE to PHOTOGRAPHS of YOUNG CHILDREN?
    >
    >On 27 Oct 00, at 14:22, rev wrote:
    >
    >> I knew you were gdb you bastard!
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
    >> To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    >> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:17 PM
    >> Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
    >>
    >>
    >> > You should try MAXIMUM LINUX. It has MAE LING MAK. There's
    >> > a picture of her in every issue wearing nothing but a VAIO! And the
    >> > VAIO runs Linux! 'Cept she can't get the sound to work.
    >> >
    >> > MAE LING MAK is a SECURITY EXPERT. She wrote a
    >> > SECURITY ARTICLE for MAXIMUM LINUX about ADVANCED
    >> > SECURITY. She suggested that you PROTECT your e-mail from
    >> > HACKERS, you do this:
    >> >
    >> > alias pine='blahblahblah'
    >> > alias foo='pine'
    >> >
    >> > If you do this ADVANCED SECURITY stuff, an EVIL HACKER who
    >> > breaks into your account an tries to read your e-mail with PINE will
    >> > get an error when he types "pine", not knowing that to get into PINE,
    >> > he ACTUALLY has to type "foo"! But MAE LING MAK knows, so SHE can
    >> > read her e-mail but the EVIL HACKERS can't.
    >> >
    >> > Isn't MAE LING MAK smart? I like her ass the best.
    >> >
    >> > Also, you need to GO READ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
    >> >
    >> > You don't not understand the BASIC CONCEPTS of FREE
    >> > SOFTWARE. You don't understand the difference between
    >> > PHYSICAL VALUE and INTELLECTUAL VALUE. A MAGAZINE
    >> > has physical value, it costs MONEY to COPY and DISTRIBUTE. It
    >> > exists as a PHYSICAL OBJECT, therefore it has PHYSICAL
    >> > VALUE. SOFTWARE does not. It can be COPIED and
    >> > DISTRIBUTED for FREE. Some EVIL SOCIALIST SOFTWARE
    >> > COMPANIES try to CHARGE for software ANYWAY, and place
    >> > RESTRICTIONS on the user's RIGHT to USE, and DISTRIBUTE it!
    >> > They assign INTELLECTUAL VALUE to the software. This is
    >> > morally WRONG. Get it RIGHT, fsckwit.
    >> >
    >> > Also, you're using MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EXPRESS, which
    >> > proves you're STUPID.
    >> >
    >> > You can't compare a MAGAZINE to SOFTWARE, just like you
    >> > can't compare YOUR MOTHER to a FEMALE. They're completely
    >> > different things.
    >> >
    >> > SUCK IT DOWN AND CHOKE ON IT, AND DIE. SUCK IT DOWN
    >> > AND CHOKE ON IT. SUCK IT DOWN. SUCK IT. SUCK. I'LL
    >> > BURN YOU ALL ALIVE. I'LL BURN YOU ALL. I'LL BURN YOU.
    >> > BURN YOU ALL. BURN YOU. BURN. BURN. BURN.
    >> > BURNING. BURNING. BURNING BURNING FIRE. DEATH AND
    >> > PAIN AND FIRE.

    (This is CP0032)

  13. The History of William Scott Lockwood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    WSL throughout the ages!

    William Scott Lockwood 1 - Born 1924 to unknown parents. Abandoned in a trash can in New Orleans by his opium-addicted prostitute mother just minutes after birth. Raised in a Catholic orphanage staffed by pedophile priests. Named himself "William Scott Lockwood 1", combining the names of his three favorite Priests/lovers at the orphanage. After puberty, the priests started to ignore him in favor of the younger boys, and he felt jealous and alienated. He ran away at age 14 and lived in the gayest part of the French Quarter, sucking cocks for spare change. At age 17, his first and only sexual encounter with a female (a woman on Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras who claimed she was actually a male Drag Queen) resulted in the conception of a child. The woman, Fannie Sassaman, quickly left town and gave birth to the child in secret, without telling WSL1 that they had conceived a son together. WSL1 died in 1949 when his herpes infection migrated to his brain.

    William Scott Lockwood 2 - Born 1942 to Fannie Sassaman by WSL1. Originally named Ezekiel Sassaman and raised as a good Jewish boy. A botched circumcision by a drunken Mohil left him with an almost nonfunctional penis. From the ages of 3 to 8, he was forced by his mother to shovel coal on a railroad for a living. At age 8, he learned of the true identity of his father, converted to Catholicism, and went to New Orleans to search for his father. (Fannie Sassaman's story doesn't end there, but we'll save it for a later date.) Ezekiel Sassaman renamed himself William Scott Lockwood 2 after his father, who he found lying dead in a gutter when he reached New Orleans. He joined up with a railroad hobo gang, and spent the next two decades riding the rails and carrying out a string of brutal rapes and murders around the country. His damaged penis kept him from conceiving any children, but in 1969, God blessed him with a miracle: one of the women he raped conceived a child. He married her, and shortly thereafter, WSL3 was born. WSL2 quit the railroad gang after his son's birth and settled down with his victim/wife. He is still wanted by the FBI as one of the most notorious serial killers of this century. He is considered heavily armed, extremely dangerous, and morbidly obese. Let the FBI know if you have seen this man. They have offered a $1,000,000 reward for any information leading to his arrest, capture, or death. After a recent sighting at an Illinois hospital, he is once again at large.

    William Scott Lockwood 3 - Born 1969 to a nondescript obese housewife by WSL2. Much has already been written about the life of this man, so I won't cover territory that has already been excellently covered by others before me. Oh, and he runs an obscure website, but only about 5 people actually visit it. Currently struggling with AIDS, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, chronic stress, liver disease, herpes, genital warts, crabs, the Clap, bad acne, morbid obesity, hypertension, and several unidentified illnesses.

    William Scott Lockwood 4 - Born 1992 to Wife #2 by WSL3. Mentally scarred by the abuse and molestation he suffered at the hands of his father at a young age. At age 3, he convinced his mother to divorce WSL3, but that didn't stop the abuse, as WSL3 began a campaign of stalking against Wife #2 and WSL4. WSL4 holds the world record as the youngest person to independently get a restraining order issued against his own father, in 1996 at the age of 4. WSL3 lost interest in WSL4 on his sixth birthday, reportedly saying "they're just not sexy anymore when they get that old." His father left him with an AIDS infection, though, and he isn't expected to last much longer.

    William Scott Lockwood 5 - ???

    William Scott Lockwood 6 - PROFIT!!!

  14. VLADEQUACY RAW & UNCUT 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    [luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female
    [luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
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    [county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
    [luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
    [luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
    [luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
    [Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
    [county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
    [county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
    [Linux] shouting and threatening tones
    [Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
    [county] What bust?
    [Linux] dunno
    [Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
    [county] Who?
    [Linux] maybe there will be death
    [Linux] cops
    [Linux] many of them
    [Linux] 8 cars at least
    [luisa|||] eek
    [Linux] maybe I'll get shot
    [county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
    [Linux] yes
    [Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
    [luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
    [luisa|||] it would all work out
    [Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
    [luisa|||] wait
    [luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
    [luisa|||] that is Not Right.
    [Linux] i think so
    * luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
    [county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
    [Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
    [county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
    [county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
    [luisa|||] you could be inferior
    [luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
    [luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
    [county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
    [county] Come on.
    [luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
    [luisa|||] nah, you are just different
    [luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
    [luisa|||] that's inferior
    [luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
    [Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
    [county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
    [luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
    [luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
    [em] you guys still going on about this? God.
    [county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
    [luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
    [luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
    [em] neither am I.
    [luisa|||] but you are at uni
    [county] em, have you been drinking?
    [em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
    [em] county: not a drop
    [em] maybe I should.
    [county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
    [luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
    [luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
    [luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
    [county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
    [county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
    [luisa|||] if you feel that you are
    [luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
    [luisa|||] but i just finished supper
    * em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
    [luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
    [Linux] katsup is a vegetable
    [luisa|||] only for bachelors
    [luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
    [county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
    [luisa|||] okbed
    *** luisa||| is now known as gurl
    [Linux] night, wheesie
    [Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
    [county] Oh, I'm sure.
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    [Marco`] Hi
    [Marco`] Anyone alive?
    * Marco` 's off
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    [me0w] g'morning
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    [bc] hello
    [me0w] Hi bc
    [bc] hellow me0wsy
    * bc was just in the pub
    [bc] and you know what?
    [me0w] What?
    [bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
    [bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
    [me0w] Ahhh ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations ..
    [bc] certainly not :)
    [me0w] Well done!
    [bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
    [bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
    [bc] cool
    [bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
    [me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
    [bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
    [bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
    * bc has some prawns
    [me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
    [bc] hehe
    [me0w] cast = vast
    [bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
    [me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble.
    [bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
    [me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
    [bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
    [me0w] And the licking ...
    [bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
    [me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
    [me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
    [bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
    [bc] mm that was tasty
    [bc] post-prandial smoke time
    [me0w] enjoy
    * bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
    [bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
    [bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
    [me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
    [bc] it's supposed to be decent.
    [bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
    [me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
    [bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
    [me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
    [bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
    [bc] they discover an alien signal
    [bc] this woman does
    [bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
    [bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
    [bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
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    [bc] hey ct
    [me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
    [bc] el capitano
    [Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
    [Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
    * Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
    [bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
    [Captain_Tenille] ?
    [bc] I am not admirably offensive
    * Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
    [me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
    [Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
    [Captain_Tenille] Yawn
    [Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
    [Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
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    [me0w] they leave so quickly
    [bc] yes
    [me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
    [bc] Catch 22 then
    [bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it :\
    [me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
    [me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
    [me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
    [bc] hehe
    * bc is writing a ranty comment
    [me0w] Will it be exciting?
    [bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
    [bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
    [bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
    [me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
    [bc] yay
    [bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928/ 674/65#65
    [bc] there you go me0w
    [me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
    [bc] woohoo!
    [bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
    [bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
    [bc] infinitera is a twat
    [me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
    [bc] it's possible ;)
    [me0w] For some anyway
    [me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
    [bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
    [bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
    [bc] it's all just a laugh
    [me0w] It is all for my amusement
    [bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
    [me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
    [bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
    [me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
    [bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
    [me0w] Brilliant!
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    [bc] hi, gurrrrl
    [gurl] hullo, you
    [me0w] Hello
    [gurl] christ i overslept
    [bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
    [gurl] twelve thirty
    [bc] damn firemen
    [bc] striking bastards, is what they are
    [bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
    [me0w] That isn't good.
    [me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
    [bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
    [bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
    [bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
    [me0w] 21,000 is far too little
    [bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
    [bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
    [bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
    [bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
    [me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
    [me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
    [bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
    [bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
    [bc] policemen £17,000
    [me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
    [me0w] The train people should get less.
    [bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
    [bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
    [bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
    [me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers
    [bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
    [gurl] er, no.
    [bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
    [gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
    [bc] they'd pay fairly
    [gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
    [me0w] nurses are underpaid
    [gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
    [bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
    [me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
    [gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
    [gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
    [gurl] not everyone can hack it
    [gurl] thus, the shortage
    [bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
    [bc] where they get paid decently
    [me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
    [bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
    [gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
    [gurl] well, the countries in that region
    [bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
    [gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
    [bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
    [gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
    [bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
    [bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
    [gurl] for a bed
    [bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
    [bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
    [bc] that thing was great
    [bc] prolly quite cheap, too
    [gurl] i just want a futon
    [bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
    [me0w] Get a sturdy futon
    [me0w] Over time the frame can bend
    [gurl] i was thinking a metal one
    [me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
    [bc] cool
    * bc watches Only Fools and Horses
    [gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
    [bc] hehe
    [gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
    [gurl] and buy a new mattress
    [bc] heh. Sounds good
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    [gurl] it's a gorgeous day
    [gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
    [bc] I love that
    [bc] cold and clear
    [bc] and sunny
    [bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
    [bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
    [gurl] he friend zoned me
    [bc] ah hah
    [bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
    [gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
    [bc] well that's something at least
    [bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
    [gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
    [bc] oh splendid
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
    [bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
    [bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
    [gurl] it is terribly intensive
    [bc] yes
    [bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
    [gurl] and no girls allowed!
    [bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
    [bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
    [bc] they are insane
    [bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
    [bc] quite sadistic ;)
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] there's a kill house?!
    [bc] they are special forces
    [bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
    [bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
    [bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
    [gurl] lordy
    [bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
    [bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
    [bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
    [bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.ht ml
    [bc] ^that was mad
    [bc] I remember watching it on tv
    [gurl] so the sas do it properlike
    [gurl] well, more like people think such things work
    [bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
    [bc] it's sort of amazing
    [bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
    [bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
    [bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
    [bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
    [bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
    [bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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    [gurl] damn
    [bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
    [gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
    [bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
    [Captain_Tenille] SAS?
    [bc] yes
    [gurl] british special forces
    [Captain_Tenille] Aha
    * Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
    [bc] hehe
    [Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
    [Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
    [bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
    [bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
    [Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
    [gurl] heh
    [bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
    [gurl] haha
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    [gurl] oh look@
    [gurl] er, nevermind
    [Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
    [bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
    [Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
    [bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
    [bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
    [bc] but SAS are teh best!
    [gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
    [Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
    [Captain_Tenille] ?
    [bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
    [bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
    [bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
    [bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
    [Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
    [Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
    * Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
    [bc] coo
    [gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
    [bc] haha
    [bc] what'd he do?
    [gurl] his warrant caught up to him
    [bc] damn
    [gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
    [Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
    [county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
    [bc] he deserves it, county
    [bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
    [county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
    [bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
    [gurl] bc, he found a job
    [gurl] and now he will lose it
    [gurl] because of extended absence
    [bc] damn it
    [bc] what's he fined for?
    [Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
    [bc] isn't that classified, ct?
    [Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
    [gurl] speeding ticket, i think
    [Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
    [Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
    [zuul] he is not
    [bc] but he was army, eh? mad
    [Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
    [gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
    [Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
    [Captain_Tenille] er, he
    [county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
    [county] He's trying to turn is life around!
    [county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
    [bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
    [county] Good man.
    [county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
    [gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
    [county] But you're too old for that.
    [bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
    [gurl] yeah, pretty much
    [gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
    [county] And she wants more.
    [gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
    [gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
    [bc] weird, gurl
    [gurl] aye
    [bc] weird weird weird
    [gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
    [county] So are you going to take her up on it?
    [gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
    [gurl] she is rather like mother
    [gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
    [county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
    [gurl] not quite
    [gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
    [gurl] with a broken neck
    [bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
    [gurl] well, he is married
    [gurl] and also i don't want him
    [gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
    [bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
    [county] That's really harsh.
    [bc] it's damned right, gurl
    [county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
    [bc] I'm proud of you!
    [county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
    [gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
    [gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
    [gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
    [gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
    [gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
    [gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
    [county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
    [gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
    [gurl] and makes piles of money
    [gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
    [county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
    [county] That seems risky.
    [gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
    [county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
    [county] Having one could be convenient.
    [gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
    [county] Some guys have all the luck.
    [bc] hehe
    [gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
    [bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
    [county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
    [county] I'm tired of being responsible.
    [bc] BRB, mobile shop
    [gurl] have a beer
    [gurl] actually, have five or six
    [county] What's a mobile shop?
    [county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
    [gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
    [gurl] women like to help men in that state
    [county] Haha!
    [county] What nonsense.
    [county] Women hate drunks.
    [gurl] depends on the drunk boy
    [gurl] i find some of them endearing
    [bc] damn it's cold
    [county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
    [county] What's a mobile shop, though?
    [bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
    [county] uh huh
    [bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
    [county] What sort of things?
    [bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
    [county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
    [county] tsk tsk.
    [bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
    [county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
    [county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
    [bc] Yup.
    [county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
    [bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
    [bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
    [gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
    [bc] poll? hmmn
    [county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
    [bc] favourite spirit?
    [gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
    [county] That would be all you can think of.
    [bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
    [bc] so it isn't surprising
    [county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
    [bc] it contains too much iron, or something
    [county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
    [wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
    [bc] it's very very popular in russia though
    [Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
    [bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
    [wsl3] What is?
    [Captain_Tenille] Ah
    [gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
    [gurl] my tummy hurts now
    [wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
    [gurl] i don't see how
    [gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
    [wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
    [gurl] i somehow doubt this.
    [gurl] i love my diary.
    [wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want! :-)
    [county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
    [wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think. :-)
    [county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
    [bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
    [gurl] hehe
    [wsl3] county: Uh huh.
    [gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
    [gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
    [wsl3] Bingo!
    * wsl3 is a FFA
    [gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
    [wsl3] LOL
    [wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
    [gurl] oh god
    [county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
    [gurl] i HATE those
    [wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
    [county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
    [wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
    [county] 300lbs.
    [gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
    [bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
    [county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
    [county] She's hyper-obese.
    [wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
    [gurl] no, that's a porker
    [gurl] i don't know any.
    [county] You don't know any!
    [county] You're delusional.
    [wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
    [gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
    [gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
    [wsl3] gurl: Top size?
    [gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
    [wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
    [gurl] well, men are less picky about that
    [county] I'm not.
    [county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
    [gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
    [gurl] unless they are very slim
    [Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
    [wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
    [Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
    [gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
    [county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
    [wsl3] under, yes.
    [gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
    [county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
    * Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
    [wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much. :-) lol
    [gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
    [gurl] of course you do
    * wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
    [gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
    [Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
    [Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
    [gurl] which is great for them
    [gurl] hasta
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    [bc] woohoo
    [bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
    [gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
    [bc] happy hacking!
    [gurl] well, that is true of anyone
    [county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
    [gurl] there is no hacking involved!
    [county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
    [gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
    [county] If one isn't already.
    [bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
    [gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
    [bc] with what, you say?
    [bc] that sounds complicated
    [gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
    [county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
    [bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
    [gurl] yeah, i guess
    [gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
    [county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
    [county] Chop chop!
    [gurl] i have to finish my beer
    [gurl] ;P
    [county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
    [bc] I think you should go to the pub
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    [county] It's kind of dismal out.
    [bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
    [cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
    [cdromgurl] wave
    [bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
    [bc] bye happy hackess!
    [county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
    [bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
    [bc] go there
    [wsl3] lol
    [bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
    [bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
    [bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
    [county] That's really far away.
    [bc] get the metro then!
    [county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
    [bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
    [bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
    [bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
    [county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
    [county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
    [wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
    [county] Shut up.
    [wsl3] no
    [wsl3] You can forget about that.
    [wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
    [county] Shut up, really.
    [wsl3] No.
    [wsl3] really.
    [bc] blargle
    [wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
    [bc] heis in London, that's all I know
    [county] I'm going to go shower.
    [county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
    [county] "out"
    [wsl3] ah
    [bc] looking forward to it
    [wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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    [Sulla] hey momo

  15. Komm Susser Todd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I know, I know I've let you down,
    I've been a fool to myself,
    I thought that I could live for no one else.
    But now, through all the hurt and pain,
    It's time for me to respect,
    The ones you love mean more than anything.


    So with sadness in my heart,
    Feel the best thing I could do,
    Is end it all, and leave forevar.
    What's done is done, it feels so bad,
    What once was happy now is sad,
    I'll never love again,
    My world is ending.


    I wish that I could turn back time,
    'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
    Can't live without the trust from those you love.
    I know we can't forget the past,
    You can't forget love and pride,
    Because of that, it's killing me inside.


    It all returns to nothing,
    It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.


    It all returns to nothing,
    I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.


    In my heart of hearts,
    I know that I could never love again.
    I've lost evarthing... evarthing...
    Evarthing that matters to me matters in this world!


    I wish that I could turn back time,
    'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
    Can't live without the trust from those you love.
    I know we can't forget the past,
    You can't forget love and pride,
    Because of that, it's killing me inside.


    It all returns to nothing,
    It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.


    It all returns to nothing,
    I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.


    It all returns to nothing,
    It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.


    It all returns to nothing,
    I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.

  16. Happy New Year B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    MAUREEN: I think we need an agent!
    MARK: We?
    JOANNE: That's selling out.
    MARK: But it's nice to dream.
    MAUREEN: It's network TV, and it's all thanks to me.
    MARK: Somehow I think I smell the whiff of a scheme.
    JOANNE: Me too!
    MAUREEN: We can plan another protest.
    JOANNE: We?!
    MAUREEN: This time you can shoot from the start, you'll direct, starring me!
    ALL: 5, 4, 3... Open sesame!! Happy new year, Happy new year Happy new...
    BENNY: I see that you've beaten me to the punch.
    ROGER: How did you know we'd be here?
    BENNY: I had a hunch.
    MARK: You're not mad?
    BENNY: I'm here to end this war. It's a shame you went and destroyed the door
    MIMI: Why all the sudden the big about face?
    BENNY: The credit is yours; you made a good case.
    ROGER: What case?
    BENNY: Mimi came to see me and she had much to say.
    MIMI: That's not how you put it at all yesterday!
    BENNY: I couldn't stop thinking about the whole mess. Mark -- you want to get this on film!
    MARK: I guess.
    BENNY: I regret the unlucky circumstances of the past seven days.
    ROGER: Circumstance? You padlocked our door!
    BENNY: And it's with great pleasure on behalf of CyberArts that I hand you this key.
    ANGEL: Golf claps.
    MARK: I have no juice in my battery!
    BENNY: Reshoot!
    ROGER: I see -- this is a photo opportunity!
    MAUREEN: The benevolent god ushers the poor artists back to their flat. Were you planning on taking down the barbed wire from the lot, too?
    ROGER: Anything but that!
    BENNY: Clearing the lot was a safety concern; we break ground this month but you can return.
    MAUREEN: That's why you're here with people you hate, instead of with Muffy at Muffy's estate
    BENNY: I'd honestly rather be with you tonight than in Westport --
    ROGER: Spare us old sport, the soundbite.
    BENNY: Mimi -- since your ways are so seductive,
    MIMI: You came on to me!
    BENNY: Persuade him not to be so counterproductive.
    ROGER: Liar!
    BENNY: Why not tell them what you wore to my place?
    MIMI: I was on my way to work!
    BENNY: Black leather and lace! My desk was a mess; I think I'm still sore!
    MIMI: Cause I kicked him and told him I wasn't his whore!
    BENNY: Does your boyfriend know who your last boyfriend was?
    ROGER: I'm not her boyfriend; I don't care what she does!
    ANGEL: People! Is this any way to start a new year? Have compassion, Benny just lost his cat!
    BENNY: My dog -- but I appreciate that.
    ANGEL: My cat had a fall and I went through hell.
    BENNY: It's like losing a -- how did you know that she fell?
    COLLINS: Champagne?
    BENNY: Don't mind if I do! To dogs!
    ALL: No, Benny -- To you!
    ANGEL: Let's make a resolution
    MIMI: I'll drink to that.
    COLLINS: Let's always stay friends.
    JOANNE: Though we may have our disputes,
    MAUREEN: This family tree's got deep roots;
    MARK: Friendship is thicker than blood.
    ROGER: That depends.
    MIMI: Depends on trust,
    ROGER: Depends on true devotion,
    JOANNE: Depends on love,
    MARK: Depends on not denying emotion!
    ROGER: Perhaps...
    ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
    ROGER: I guess...
    ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
    ROGER: You're right!
    ANGEL: It's gonna be a happy new year!
    ROGER AND MIMI: I'm sorry.
    ROGER: Coming?
    MIMI: In a minute -- I'm fine -- go.
    THE MAN: Well, well, well. What have we here? It's gonna be a happy new year...