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Scientists Don't Read the Papers They Cite

WatertonMan writes "Very interesting and sure to be controversial study that suggests most scientists don't read the papers they cite. This means that if one paper misreads a work the misreading propagates. It's a very interesting study and has big implications for science, in my opinion. New Scientist has a good overview of the work. Given that most attention to work has been in sloppy work on the experimental side (poor methadology or outright fraud) this suggests a whole other problem. A lot of the ultimate problem is that many in research are concerned more about publishing than in solving the issues they investigate. Ideally the point both in science and in academics in general is to understand the ideas. Yet those of you who've looked up footnotes realize that actually engaging the ideas of other researchers typically falls by the wayside. Often footnotes are there simply because references are needed. Engaging others works is secondary. I've always thought that the hard sciences were more immune to that effect than the humanities. I guess not."

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  1. Not necessarily... by Pentagram · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The study seemed to be checking for typos in citations. Just because a scientist has copied the text of a (wrongly typed) citation does not mean s/he has not read the paper. There is no law that says someone writing a paper has to type up every citation they make from scratch.

    1. Re:Not necessarily... by doublegauss · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Exactly. Scientific research is my job, so believe me, I know what I am talking about. Sometimes you mis-cite papers you know extremely well just because you copy/paste an incorrect citation. That doesn't imply at all that you have not read the article.

      Proof: in one occasion, I misquoted a paper that I had written myself, just because I copied its title from the preliminary version, forgetting that eventually the title had (slightly) changed in the published version.

      IMHO, this is cheap sensationalism. On the other hand, it is true that the academic profession is too loaded with the "publish or perish" thing, which leads researchers (and eventually publishing) sloppy research.

    2. Re:Not necessarily... by daoine · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Exactly.

      I think that the article itself is making a huge leap here, and it's not one I'm about to believe.

      They noticed in a citation database that misprints in references are fairly common, and that a lot of the mistakes are identical. This suggests that many scientists take short cuts, simply copying a reference from someone else's paper rather than reading the original source.
      They go even further...
      The pattern suggests that 45 scientists, who might well have read the paper, made an error when they cited it. Then 151 others copied their misprints without reading the original. So for at least 77 per cent of the 196 misprinted citations, no one read the paper.
      Copying the reference format from a paper does not mean that the scientist has not read the original. When writing my papers [research conferences, not just assignments] I'd often grab citations out of papers that were in the proper conference format. I had the paper in my hands -- but sometimes the citation information gets separated from the paper, and you need to rely on someone else's citation. That doesn't mean I didn't read the paper, nor does it mean that I was using another author's interpretation of the original work. It's an absurd leap.

      While I do believe that authors do skimp on what they've read and what they just pretend to have read, I'm not sure that using typos in references is the best way to determine the degree to which this occurs. What it *does* show is that people are clearly lazy when it comes to references, and many will copy a reference without checking to see if it's correct. I'd be interested to see if they've looked into lesser known papers -- a popular paper is more likely to withstand an error, since everyone knows what it is anyway...

  2. Not reading != misreading by AlphaHelix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This paper takes some very simple statistical models and turns them into what seem to be totally unfounded generalizations about the way science is done. Taking their statistical conclusions at face value, we find that 77% of the people who cited the paper didn't read it in its original form. But, they go on to conclude that a) the only source of information about the paper could have come from a single other paper (namely, the paper with the original citation), and b) misunderstandings about the conclusions drawn by a paper will spread "like wildfire." They do not actually demonstrate this latter conclusion, and don't show that any of the papers actually did misconstrue the science in the original paper.

    This is because heavily cited papers become very widely known and understood. Not everybody who's ever cited "The Origin of the Species" has read the whole thing, but it certainly then does not follow that they took their understandings of its conclusions from a single other citing paper.

    They end their article with a smug admonition to "read before you cite." These guys sound like the guy with a clean desk who never gets anything done complaining about all the clutter on your desk. Smug social scientists criticizing physicists for their lack of citation rigor does not impress me. There are plenty of better reasons to criticize physicists this year (e.g., Ninov and Schoen). This one seems a bit silly.

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  3. Re:even if they do read other's work... by BistroMath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Um, OK. I'll try it:

    1. Read /. headline
    2. Form angry, uninformed opinion.
    3. Post
    4. ????
    5. Karma!

    Doing science for the money is like having sex for
    the exercise. There are many other ways to make considerably more money that require
    far less work. The raison d'etre of science is the joy
    of discovery; no one spends 6-8 years in higher education
    getting a PhD just for the paycheck. People do it
    because they love it.

    As far as scientists faking results, yes, it happens.
    However, the beauty of the scientific method is that
    it is self-policing. Anyone can read the journals;
    anyone can write the editors of said journals and
    report anything that's not above board. As for papers
    not being read in the first place, well, let's hop on
    the Magic School Bus and take a quick tour of the
    scientific publishing process.

    First, write the paper. Then, submit it to either a
    journal or a conference. In either case, the pool
    of available papers will be divided over the number
    of people on the review board of the respective
    journal/conference, so a bunch of people read a few
    papers. Once here, the aforementioned paper is either
    rejected or accepted. If accepted, it is published.

    After the paper is published, other scientists read
    the paper. If it is useful for their work, they may
    incorporate some of the ideas into their own work,
    at which point, they'll test the idea that they're
    borrowing to see if it makes sense.
    If it does make sense, they'll use it. If not, they'll
    tell the whole world, discrediting the work and
    embarassing the original author. Thus there is plenty
    of pressure to do good science. The people doing legitimate
    work far outnumber the charlatans just submitting
    gibberish.

    Matt

  4. Cost of journals, pride of reviewers, contribute by Jonathan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone who has written a number of scientific papers (and yes, sometimes, but not often, cited articles that I haven't read), I think there are a couple of reason contributing to the problem:

    1) Cost of journals -- often there is an article that ought to be cited in your work (because it was published before yours, and is related), but is in a journal unavailable at your university's library. There are thousands of journals, and their high costs (often thousands of dollars a year each) means that no library can have them all. But why not simply ignore an article you haven't read? Read on.

    2) Pride of Reviewers -- When a scientific article is sent to a journal, it is passed on to several researchers who are doing similar work for peer review. While it would nice to think that reviewers are not so petty, the fact is, if you haven't cited their work, they might get angry and reject the paper. So, authors feel that it is better safe than sorry and cite freely.

  5. Publication number. by LothDaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Being a recent Ph.D., a current Post Doc., and a future Prof in Plant Pathology I understand this comment like few others:

    A lot of the ultimate problem is that many in research are concerned more about publishing than in solving the issues they investigate.

    The problem is that the higher-ups in the university system essentially mandate a certain number of peer reviewed publications for promotions, hell even to keep your job if you're not tenured. This, I feel, is part of the problem in that we're pushed so hard to get X number of publications per year. In a sense it's necessary to weed out the smucks (anyone can get a Ph.D. nowadays), but it also can cause the quality of the research to decline. The whole quality vs. quantity argument.

    Just my $0.02.

  6. The article is total bullshit by orange7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look, as someone who's written scientific papers, the claims in the article are not only false, but indicative of poor science themselves. They're making the classic experimental stats mistake. Namely, copying and pasting citations from other sources is *absolutely uncorrelated* with whether those papers have been read by the author.

    Formatting citations is fussy, tedious, and annoying. You have to look up the page numbers in the journal (which you may not even have in these days of online papers), figure out who the publisher was, the issue or journal number.

    I read every single one of the papers I've ever cited. But it was rare that I ever typed in a citation from scratch. Usually you get them either from an on-line citation database, from the bibtex entry helpfully supplied on the cited author's web page (scientists like being cited!) or, yes, by typing out a citation from a printed paper.

    In any given field, usually some kind-hearted soul starts collecting a database of citations for others to use. For instance, here's one here:

    http://www.helios32.com/resources.htm#Bibliographi es

    Have a look; you'll soon twig to why people don't type these in from scratch.

    Creating the citation all over from scratch when it's right there in front of you is about as pointless as adding a link to a web page by retyping some monstrous 200-character URL. Just because you copy & pasted a link doesn't mean you didn't read the article did you? (I guess slashdot is the wrong place for that particular piece of rhetoric.)

    I'm disappointed in New Scientist. The pissy little diatribe about science in the story submission is par for the course. Please, leave the pontificating to people who have a clue.

    In fact, how about a retraction? (Ha ha ha ha!)

    A.