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Drives Supporting All DVD Writing Standards?

lnxslak asks: "I was asked today to research a viable DVD burning solution. I thought this would be a simple task, little did I know of the horrors waiting me just around the corner. There are 5 different DVD writing standards. DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW. After coming to terms with this I figured I'd just get a drive that does them all. Is there a drive out there that does this, and (hopefully) more ? Have you guys had any experiences positive/negative with various brands? C-Net reviews are great, but I'd like some comments from people that actually know how to use a computer."

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  1. My 2 cents by Guspaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    DVD-RAM is old (outdated), and DVD-R/DVD-RW is sort of the same standard, as is DVD+R/DVD+RW. AFAIK most modern drives can do the recordable-only version of their standard.

    From what I've heard, the "-" (DVD-R/DVD-RW) standard is winning the formats race due to higher compatibility and wider industry support. So I'd say go with that type of drive. However there are drives coming to market that can burn both the dash and the plus standards.

    1. Re:My 2 cents by grammar+nazi · · Score: 5, Funny
      There are 5 different DVD writing standards. DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW.



      According to the MPAA, there are 11,113 standards of DVD burners, since a 8x DVD+R Writer counts for 8 standards, 4x DVD-RW counts for 4, and etc.

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    2. Re:My 2 cents by tchuladdiass · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would just like to point out that dvd-ram isn't really outdated. Basically, it's not a format intended for video use, but for data use. Whereas a dvd-rw or dvd+rw can only be written to no more than 1000 times, dvd-ram can go at least 100,000 rewrites. Also, dvd-ram can be randomly written to, unlike dvd-rw, which uses the same method as cd-rw to simulate a randomly-writable device.

      So, if your application is data-centric, dvd-ram is the way to go. It is basically the same type of tech used in MO drives, but a lot cheaper for the media. Also, dvd players are starting to come out supporting dvd-ram.

    3. Re:My 2 cents by rottcodd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I use dvd-ram to store some of my data-- since I generate data in chunks of less than a gig, the fact that it isn't session based is a real advantage-- I've been using ext2 formatted dvd-ram disks.

      That said, I'm a little scared of losing the supply of dvd-ram disks, and I've been thinking of trying to get an extra drive.

  2. Re:Second Post by macdaddy357 · · Score: 2
    Yes, you look stupid. Maybe this link will humiliate you enough to stop trying to second post. Even if you pull it off, it just makes you Number 2.

    By the way, I think Hitachi is making a universal DVD burner. It at least does DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW. I am not sure about DVD-Ram. See that mods!!! I'm NOT off topic!

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  3. Here you go by MattCohn.com · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. Sony DRU500A by rrowv · · Score: 4, Informative

    I got the Sony DRU500A a few weeks ago. It does DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, and CD-RW. No DVD-RAM, but who uses that anyway? Comes with all kinds of great software. Not bad for $350.

  5. I'm Still looking ... by mikecheng · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been looking for a "do everything" DVD drive for a while. Still haven't found it. But I have found a couple of good spots on the net for DVD comparisons and info:
    Extremetech DVD page

    Extremetech dvd/cd page

    arstechnica dvd a04 review with a great comparison table down the bottom.

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  6. Sony DRU500 by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Sony DRU500 is the most universal drive currently available, however other companies have announced drives with similar capabilities.

    There are drives that combine DVD-RAM with DVD-R/RW out there. I have one of the first DVD-RAM drives made, (read very slow). DVD-RAM has some advantages over other rewritable formats, most particularly in that it really is designed from the ground up as format for rewritable data storage. The big downside with DVD-RAM media is that you can't put a DVD-RAM disk into a typical DVD-ROM drive and read the data, while this is possible with other DVD formats.

  7. A review from someone who knows how to use a compu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hello, my name is Alice, I am a retired homeworker currently using AOL as my "Internet" portal and electric mail.

    I own a universal DVD burner myself, which came with my computer, which was conveniently bought from my local Gateway Country store, where I got best deal on the dollar, professional technical help on setting up my modem and extended warranty for a very low price.

    I am satisfied with my universal DVD burner, I usually use it to save digital pictures of my cat. In Windows XP Home Edition (it's a company called Microsoft that makes it, I think they are a Seattle-based company, but you might check your local phonebook to see if you have a dealer in your town) you just click "Burn this to CD..." and even though it is DVD, not CD, the operating system from Microsoft (highly recommended for high-tech professionals, by the way) knows the difference and does the burning just right.

    On a 5-point scale I would rate my universal DVD-burner as 5 stars.

  8. Re:Currently, there isn't one (yet) by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I agree with RAM. The Gateway's have a DVD-RAM that also does DVD-R and -RW. In fact I just used mine tonight to burn off a copy of my MP3's. 4 GB pf MP3 burnt in about 30 minutes. DVD-RAM is SLOW! STILL! Lastnight I formatted a DVD-RAM (Free one that came with system) and that took about 20 min/ Copied 600 MB of data to it and it took nearly 30 minutes to write that! DVD-RAM is 1x. Period. It will die unless the speeds come up. Mine also seemed to say that it will(DVD-RAM Discs) work in some DVD-ROMS and players. Only way I will use it is for backup media. BTW, the drive that comes in the gateways seems to have done away with the tray thingy. If you went the route I did and order a new machine, get a CD-RW with it for normal stuff. From all reports, DVD-R is the best for compatability. DVD+R will eventually work in possibly, but I don't know why DVD+R is better. One review I saw said that the DVD-R worked in nearly everything while the + ones did not. YMMV!

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  9. Watch out for that Sony by phr2 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The new Sony unit does both the +R/RW and -R/RW formats, but I've heard (source: it's one of those "I read it on the internet, so it must be true" things) that the -R discs it writes have more compatibility problems than -R discs written by -R-only drives. I'd just pick a format (- or +) and stick to it. Besides, Sony is an arm of the evil MPAA--who knows what DRM the next firmware upgrade will have?

    Anyway, I currently don't see any significant advantage of +R/+RW over -R/-RW, given the people actually write these discs. So I think if I get a DVD burner any time soon, it will be a Pioneer DVR-105. This burns -R discs at 4x speed (maximum DVD+R speed of any current drive is 2.4x), though the 4x blanks are currently considerably more expensive than 1x and 2x blanks. I figure that won't last and DVD blanks will be like CD-R soon enough.

  10. Depends on money by Kanasta · · Score: 2

    You should buy those $10000 drives that burn REAL DVDs. Works on all drives, don't worry about all the other formats.

    1. Re:Depends on money by CMiYC · · Score: 2

      REAL DVDs aren't burned. They are pressed. Production CDs and DVDs have a layer of alumninum that get their Pits and Lands pressed by a metal plate. They are not burned.

  11. Re: Sony DRU-500a problems? by mccalli · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Hmm...Slashdot problems as well by the looks of things...

    Anyway I've had one of these multiformat drives on order for a month now, and there's still no sign of stock. I've looked everywhere - no stock in the UK, and none I can find in the US. No-one has any delivery dates either - the retailer I've ordered from says his supplier won't even confirm a date, and they've already blown three of them.

    All this makes me wonder if the device has been withdrawn for some technical reason. I'm aware there's been a BIOS update already, but it does seem odd that no shop anywhere can get hold of these drives. Even Sony's own online shop says end of January before shipping.

    Has anyone heard anything?

    Cheers,
    Ian

  12. Re:Thanks a lot for all the help by mccalli · · Score: 2
    May I ask where from? I'm currently scouring the globe looking for a place that actually has them in stock.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  13. Re:DVD-RAM isn't dead (yet, anyway) by Guspaz · · Score: 2

    I agree, it's an excellent format for data use, but DVD-RAM discs are nearly impossible to find locally, and their scarcity on the local market doesn't help their prices. Still, I see some ultra-cheap ones for sale on the net... A 10-pack double-sided in cartridge for 85$ US seems like a pretty good deal.