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Motorola's Metrowerks Acquires Lineo

Posted by timothy on from the can't-you-build-some-linux-watches-already dept.

An anonymous reader writes "It's official: Following weeks of speculation, Motorola's Metrowerks embedded tools subsidiary today has finally announced that they are acquiring the key assets of Embedix Inc. (a.k.a. Lineo), one of the earliest and most popular providers of embedded Linux software and tools."

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  1. In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    key assets acquire you!

  2. Sounds suspicious ... by obsidianpreacher · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "Customers want a full solution, up to the application level, from a single source," [Metrowerks vice president of strategic marketing John] Smolucha added.
    Does this sound a little like the Microsoft/Disney/AOLTW/whoever monopolistic practices to anyone else, or am I just being overly cynical and reading too much into it? How does this fit into the whole free (as in speech) aspect of the Linux developmental ideology?
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    1. Re:Sounds suspicious ... by mdechene · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Customers want a full solution, up to the application level, from a single source," [Metrowerks vice president of strategic marketing John] Smolucha added. Does this sound a little like the Microsoft/Disney/AOLTW/whoever monopolistic practices to anyone else, or am I just being overly cynical and reading too much into it? How does this fit into the whole free (as in speech) aspect of the Linux developmental ideology?

      When he says "Customers", he means "Embedded Systems Developers". And yes, we do want a full solution, up to the application level, from a single source. You want to buy a single dev kit, not a chip programmer from one company, a programming environment from a second, and an O/S from a third. This way you don't have to pull out your hair trying to integrate the environments before you even begin development. And no, it's not a monopolistic statement, as it doesn't preclude other companies having solutions for their own chips. Basically, MetroWerks wants to provide an entire development solution for Motorola chips, kinda like TI wants to provide the same for their chips.

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  3. Here's another viewpoint / more information by ekrout · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read this news earlier on C|Net. They had it embedded (sorry for the bad pun) in an article entitled "Mixed fortunes for embedded Linux".

    Please note that this was deemed bad by some for embedded Linux because of the fact that Lineo had to be acquired and no longer was self-sufficient due to lack of profits from software sales.

    Lineo's "Embeddix" software for portable devices powers those Zaurus handhelds that some of you are familiar with.

    The good news mentioned in that article was that Toshiba just invested a hefty chunk of change into MontaVista software, another player in the embedded market.

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    1. Re:Here's another viewpoint / more information by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well, Lineo did a lot of work on the Zaurus, especially drivers, but the software mostly comes from the community, with the runner up being Troll Tech. Saying that embeddix "powers" the Zaurus is market-speak.

      Bruce

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    2. Re:Here's another viewpoint / more information by ekrout · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bruce,

      With all due respect, your comment seems like a simple rehashing of the old GNU/Linux vs. Linux war.

      Whenever Open Source / Free Software is involved in a project, we as a community know that underneath lie many great tools made by the GNU folks and many other programmers across the world. But since that's understood, we don't worry about it.

      But you're right about the use of "powers"; I admit that many lay-folks would find it misleading were they to know the real truth.

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    3. Re:Here's another viewpoint / more information by pyman · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Linux holds a very small portion of the handheld market.

      This is because hardware is the driving cost of PDAs. MS and Palm both license there Handheld OSs for between $8-$10, so the cost of the operating system has little effect on the cost of the unit.

      Palm have not invested enough in the latest version of their OS, so it is only a matter of time before WinCE surpasses Palm in Market share, as it already surpasses them in OS features.

      Because of this, I think it is going to be very hard for Linux to beat Palm and MS in the handheld market. We have to come up with a much better product, with more features, as beating the competion on price does not count for much...

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  4. might be good by binary+tr011 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This might be good as it would allow a great technology(embedded linux) to gain more market share.
    Also it will allow for a great chip manufature motorola and os to come together.
    redundant

  5. holy crap I cant believe it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work for a company that is now out of business that used to compete against both of these companies.

    Lineo was the only company to come close to what we were doing in terms of execution speed and compatibility. It just boggles the mind that they sold out.

    Though the company I was working for is now out of business, thanks to a very stupid CEO..

    1. Re:holy crap I cant believe it... by binaryDigit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It just boggles the mind that they sold out

      How is running out of money "selling out", except in the strictist sense of the word? They did/do have some cool stuff (we use some of their hardware development kits here at work), but if they are not selling enough to stay afloat, then you do what you have to do to keep some semblence of the company going. What would you have them do, just go belly up?

  6. Zaurus by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    By the way, OpenZaurus 3.0, the "free" load for the Zaurus, is really cool! I am running it on my Zaurus, with 1/2 Gig SD card and either 802.11b or Bluetooth in the CF slot. When I ssh to it there's little to tell me it's not a powerful server system. And the applications that run on the LCD are pretty good, too. I hear there's a reverse-engineered driver for the SD coming from the iPaq. That's the last component that wasn't Open Source. I will demo all of this on the geek cruise this year, and will also do a talk on international wireless connectivity with GPRS.

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  7. Linux Watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    from the can't-you-build-some-linux-watches-already dept.

    Already been done:

    IBM clocks in with new Linux watch Developers Warm Up to Linux Watch IBM's Linux Wristwatch IBM Research - Linux Watch
  8. Re:Does that mean no more codewarrior? by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Oh PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!
    Codewarrior is an overpriced copy of the GNU toolchain with an ide...
    Well sure it is... but isn't that the business model that /. has been asking us to follow for the last couple of years? After all, isn't RedHat just an overpriced copy of GNU/Linux/Gnome with package management?

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  9. Not good news, for now anyway... by USC-MBA · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Sadly, this does not amount to very good news. The Metrowerks acquisition comes only eight months after Lineo was forced to recapitalize (translation: they were broke), which itself came only a month after Lineo laid off over a third of its workforce. For one of the first and best-known embedded Linux companies to go under like this does not shine a good light on the industry.

    Meanwhile, a glance at Metrowerks website shows the company leaning strongly toward PDA applications, the market for which has been slumping as of late, and, as Gartner Dataquest's analysis tells it:

    PDAs are entering a period in which they will be embraced by enterprises as core infrastructure, like PCs.This portends a gradual shift away from Palm and toward Microsoft. Although Palm devices remain more prevalent in enterprises, Microsoft has been adept in providing the building blocks enterprises require. Most companies Gartner talks with are moving with, or planning to move with, the Microsoft wave.
    Note that the idea of Microsoft getting a leg up in "core infrastructure" integration means that the company also poses a threat to embedded applications for such "smart devices" as portable phones and videoconferencing technology.

    Though the overall outlook may seem bleak for these companies, a winner is someone who can look a challenge and see an opportunity. As a libertarian, I am anti-monolpoly, and thus I hope Metrowerks' leadership can show the kind of vision needed to put Lineo's intellectual capital to good use in counteracting the Microsoft menace.

  10. Who cares? by phr2 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why does anyone think these semi-proprietary embedded Linuxes are such a good thing? I have a Zaurus with Lineo on it and as far as I can tell, there's no useful source code available. One of the big attractions of Linux, the ability to modify your system without having to sign NDA's or buy licenses, has been lost. I don't claim they're violating the letter of the GPL, but they're holding back important stuff.

    The alternative, OpenZaurus, is free but basically had to be done from scratch, from what I've heard, including some hardware reverse-engineering. I haven't gotten around to installing it on my Zaurus and I gather it still has some shortcomings. I hope Sharp will switch to OpenZaurus, release any new source code, and I don't care if Lineo goes down the tubes.

    Proprietary Linuxes are just Windows with a penguin mascot. Let them rot.