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Red Hat In The Black for Q3

wheeeee! writes "Red Hat has posted a profit for the third quarter. Well, a meager $300 grand of actual net, but still a profit nonetheless. Their total revenue of $24.3 million was higher than expected. The cash flow appears to have been spurred by an increase in sales of RH's Advanced Server, of which 12000 were sold, compared to 8000 the previous quarter. RH says they're now following the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, developed in the wake of recent accounting troubles at some companies."

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  1. Better poor than broke. by Troy+H+Parker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    300K may not seem like much, but at a time when many companies arn't making a dime, it's not bad at all, especially for a company with an "alternative" business plan.

    1. Re:Better poor than broke. by tim_maroney · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This quarter's profit is so slim that it doesn't say much of anything. Even under GAAP there's enough wiggle room in the accounting for a money-losing company to juggle the books and come up with a small faux profit every few quarters. In this case we're talking about a profit that is only 1.25% of revenues, well within that wiggle room. It's too early to say whether this is a real profit or creative bookkeeping; the next few quarters should give a much better indication.

  2. Re:This is great-or is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I wouldn't say it was "their" standards, it was the standards for the general Linux community. You can't satisfy the needs for everyone, so its best to try and satisfy the needs of the masses.

    Just like Microsoft, alot of people complain about their products, but one of the reasons they're successfull is that they are made and marketed for the general computer user.

    Would you say that people who made Linux floppy distributions are implementing "their" standards more so than the communities? No, they're making a product for a specific market/need. The same with Red Hat standardising with their latest release.

    I think what is really evident here with the news of Red Hat's Q3 report is that with the right business plan, you can give away, and contribute to the development of Open Source software, sell services to support those products and make money, and do it very well.

  3. This is pretty damn good! by wiredog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $300k profit isn't tremendous but, considering that the third largest bankruptcy in US history has just been announced, it's not bad. Not bad at all.

  4. Re:so what about unitedlinux by Tolleman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I bet the unitedlinux thingie is just a way for the smaller dists to compete with redhat.

  5. Re:so what about unitedlinux by noselasd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because they are not interrested ? They want people/companies to standarize on Redhat.

  6. Re:This is great-or is it? by lunenburg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now is this good? After the 8.0 release I didn't see so many people praising Red Hat as with the 7.3 release. I see Red Hat push for a standardization in the Linux community, but it is more of "their" standards, not what the community wants. This is a double edged sword, good for them and getting Linux more coverage, but possibly bad for the community with a muscle like Red Hat who as we can tell is starting to flex a bit.

    That would probably come from listening to drooling Slashdot fanboys whose only reaction to hearing the words "Red Hat" is "d00d!!11 r3d h@t si evil!!!! my Distro is more 31137 than j00!" or some other nonsense. Remember - you can't be cool" if you look like you're supporting the most popular thing. It happens with everything - the hip little bar downtown suddenly becomes "a sellout" and uncool once everyone discovers it. Same with bands, TV shows, etc. It's just very disappointing to see the Linux community turn on one of their own just to earn 31337-points. Shit-talking Red Hat just to show how cool you are doesn't help the Linux community gain credibility - it makes people think that the community is filled with a bunch of immature back-biters.

    Nobody has ever come up with anything more than half-baked conspiracy theories to show that Red Hat is out to become "the Microsoft of Linux." The 8.0 release was a big jump in terms of functionality and overall direction. Some people liked it, some people didn't. There are lots of things I like, and several things I wish they'd have done differently. But business and technical decisions by a company whose product is open-source is not evil. I find it hard to believe that when you can take Red Hat 8.0, strip out a couple of minor packages, do s/Red Hat/MyUberDistro/ in the source code, and resell it, that Red Hat is the evil behemoth that people claim.

    And do you know how Red Hat flexes its muscle? By GPL'ing nearly everything it produces, supporing the LSB, and employing people to work full-time on Linux, thus contributing their work back to the community for everyone from you to SuSE to Debian to use. Ooooh, how deliciously evil.

    So I think that the only people who rail against the evils of Red Hat are paranoid conspiracy theorists who don't have the slightest idea of what they're talking about, and are only looking to score cool-points at Red Hat's expense. If Red Hat doesn't do the job for you, use their bugzilla or email lists and attempt to convince them to change things, or by all means use the distro that works best for you. But demonizing Red Hat simply because they happen to be the biggest and/or most
    popular distro hurts all of us in the long run.

  7. products vs. services by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Red Hat said about 70 percent of its revenue comes from direct sales of products to its customers, but over time, it expects 65 percent to 70 percent of sales to come through indirect sales channels such as its partnerships with IBM, Oracle, Dell and Hewlett-Packard.

    Hmm. So either way, 65 to 70% of the revenue is coming from shipping products; I find that interesting in light of the fact that RedHat appears to me to be uniquely positioned to be the biggest player in the support arena; this must surely be the cash cow par excellence?

    How about an Ask Slashdot session with a RedHat exec?

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  8. Quarterly Earnings are Overvalued by Cujo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quarterly earnings are at best a snapshot and are hugely overemphasized. This latest is really just breaking even and change. Still, Redhat is not bleeding cash like many other companies in similar markets. I think their long term prospects are respectable.

    They're trading at around $6.55 this morning. The prospects for a quick killing at that price are poor, but haven't we all learned our lesson?

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  9. Congrats RedHat, continue ignoring naysayers by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In a down economy, particularly in the gutted software market, RedHat's move to profitability is a great sign.

    This company has combined great a great technical staff with the ability to market and profit from products that differentiate them. I have not had any experience with the Advanced Server product, but as a RH8.0 user, I can say that the product is showing great improvements.

    The linux market will not support a "Microsoft of linux" if that is your fear, the market for distros is very liquid, in fact, almost infinitely liquid. RedHat will only survive by providing true value above and beyond the hundred or so other distros that happen to be marketed at any given time, most of which are solid products in their own right.

  10. THANK YOU. by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The anti-Red Hat rants on this site are utterly baseless and sophomoric. If Red Hat were to exit the market, a significant force for the advancement of linux would vanish. Thank you for your post.

  11. True, but potential market is enormous by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I agree with you 100% about valuations, and if you read my journal, you will see at least twenty long rants about market valuations being out of whack.

    That said, RH is potentially addressing a gigantic market. Even if 20% of Solaris and Win2k installs migrate to RedHat, thats in incredible jump in the number of installed cusomters with credible purchasing power.

    I would confidently place RH in the same league as some biotechs in terms of market potential.