Opera Gives That C64 Feel

howcome writes "Opera yesterday relased beta2 of the forthcoming 7.0 version. Opera now supports mulitple user style sheets and by selecting "Nostalgia" from the menu all web pages suddenly resemble Commodore 64 (screendump1 screendump2) from 20 years back. Also, there is a handheld emulator to see what a page will look like on a handheld device running Opera. To get you through Christmas, you can also use the "fast-forward" button. Try it on Google (screendump)!"

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as soon as you make one

[SweetAndSourJesus]

Read the tutorial at mozdev.org.

But Opera has been getting smaller

[Wee]

Opera just made a mistake, in my opinion, with that. I liked how they kept the browser streamlined and stripped down; this new feature is, possibly, a sign of creeping featurism and surrender to the forces of software bloat.

Have you been using Opera recently? Like over the last couple years? The new betas are really pretty speedy and also smaller than the 6.x release versions. I just downloaded the last beta and the latest production release. Here they are:

[wee@host tmp]$ ls -l
total 6836
-rw------- 1 wee wee 3588280 Dec 18 16:06 ow32enen605.exe
-rw------- 1 wee wee 3397867 Dec 18 16:05 ow32enen700b2.exe

My boss and I were talking about this very topic. They've apparently re-written the rendering engine from the ground up. We suspect that they use the same engine in the desktop versions as in the embedded versions. Then they tack on JavaScript and Java and the various UI bits to make each platform-specific release.

Whatever they do, they haven't succumbed to to creature feep. They've done just about the opposite: they started fresh and the result is a faster, leaner browser. Of course, I've only used the windows version a couple times, but it was noticeably nimbler than the 6.x Linux versions.

-B

Re:But Opera has been getting smaller

[Hektor_Troy]

Well, I used 6.x up until 7.0b1 came out, and 7.0 is a lot faster on startup in particular. Like 1 second vs 5 - 8 seconds (this on a 866 MHz PIII with 384 MB RAM).

Also 6.05 appeared to have a bug, that caused it's downloads to suck up all it's reasources if the server was fast enough, causing you not to be able to do anything while downloading. This is not the case with 7.0b1/2.

It also has some very neat features with regards to testing websites, such as debug with outline etc. Also it's sidebar can display each and every link on a page.

I like it. I like it a lot. I switched to Mozilla for a while but went back to Opera for several reasons, and 7.0 really solidifies Operas lead in my eyes. It would be nice however, if the stuff like e-mail and ICQ were plug-ins instead of built in. It might not make a difference wrt size or speed, but it'd be nice :-)

Re:Screendump PNG Bad?

[am_human2]

I have to ask - you - why is PNG bad? Really - I'd like to know what you think is bad about it? What would you suggest is better? Windoze BMP for it's small file size maybe?!

Info on PNG

Re:Opera's new marketing campaign

[AussieBastard]

Yes, it was Impossible Mission. Man, I wasted so much time on that game. Here's a good site for it:

http://members.tripod.com/~impossible_mission/

Re:Oops

[thelen]

Check one of the other links to the pictures provided in this thread, and you'll see that it is merely a rendering function to display html in a particular manner. It's not even a skin, a la Netscape or RealPlayer, it's nothing more than a manner of formatting the page (in a clunky and unusable manner). In other words, it almost certainly has zero effect on performance.

crashing isn't a problem for me

[_KhlER3L]

I've used Opera since 6.0 on Windows and Linux, and I've found it to be pretty stable. But, even when it crashes (it does occasionally), Opera will have saved it's state at the point of the crash, so simply reloading Opera brings back all the pages that were lost.

I've recently started using Pheonix and Mozilla, and have found that both are just as stable as Opera, except they do not have this feature, so my losses are more substantial, sometimes requiring me to search through my browser history to get back to where I was. I know that there is some sort of feature like this with the tabs extension, but it's not obvious how it works, and I never got it to.

_KhlER3L

a few differences a-side

[_KhlER3L]

Here's a little comparasin, as I use both Opera and Pheonix. Some stuff opera does that pheonix doesn't do, or doesn't do as well (that I actually use): 1. switch all graphics on and off 2. switch css on and off 3. zoom in and out Stuff pheonix (and extensions) does that opera doesn't do, or doesn't do as well: 1. turns off specific graphics 2. better tab management (middle click!) 3. better personal bar, (I especially like opening all my newssites at once with a single middle click, and then throwing them away with another single click when I need to move onto another task.) Just chiming in... _KhlER3L

Other new stuff

[Fweeky]

• Improved CSS support -- CSS menus now work pretty much as expected, overflow: scroll works better, and numerous other fixes.
  
• Opera now has a password manager! Both HTTP auth and login forms can be saved and filled in automatically later. "Wand" is a bit of a cheesy name for it, though :)
  
• Quick Download -- now instead of right clicking, hitting Download, waiting for file dialog to pop up and hitting Save, you right click, hit Quick Download, and it's done for you.
  
• Links bar, similar to Mozilla's Page Info -> Links tab. It's a bit primitive at the moment, but it's nice to see they're working on stuff like this.
  
• Fast Forward -- fancy <link rel="next"> UI gadget -- if a site uses said links, the Forward button is turned into a Next button, which is nice for browsing things like search results pages and blogs.
  
• Improved skins support -- auto-install for new skins, more flexible for users (no more .ini editing if you want to rearrange your buttons, for instance), etc. Someone badly needs to Opera 7-ize Minimalist, though, I'm not a fan of the Aqua look, or the bare-bones "Windows" skin that ships with this beta.
  
• The bookmark manager is back, and looking nicer than the Opera 6 one.
  

I'm quite impressed with this second beta. With betas like this, IE7 better be damn good to not get yawned at :)

Small Screen Rendering Isn't a Big Deal

[Anonymous Coward]

Netscape's Daniel Glazman wrote this JavaScript bookmarklet that does exactly the same thing:

javascript:var s=document.createElement('link');s.href='http://da niel.glazman.free.fr/userContent.css';s.rel='style sheet';s.type='text/css';document.getElementsByTag Name('head')[0].appendChild(s);void(0);

Just create a new bookmark, using the code above as the Location and plonk it on your Personal Toolbar. Then visit a page and click it. Only works in Gecko-based browsers.

Mirrors

[David_Bloom]

Mirrors of the screenshots:

• Screen 1
• Screen 2

These aren't the actual image files (I reduced them from 24bit to 8bit because it halved the filesize, and they fit in an 8bit pallette anyway), but they look the same (see parenthesies).

Below the Root

[Cecil]

Great game, so much fun, and surprisingly full of stuff to do and explore. Or maybe it was just because I was like 8 years old.

In any case, I loved that game so much that I bought the book. There's an entire series, in fact. The book really explains what was going on in the game. It's an interesting read if you're a Below the Root fan. ... You broke your Shuba!

Re:Hey craaack smoker!

[hkmwbz]

FUD.

Anyone can check Opera's specs pages and see that you are lying through your teeth about Opera 7 not being very standards compliant.