Colin Walters Talks About Debian On The Desktop
An anonymous reader writes "DesktopLinux.com caught up with Colin Walters of the Debian Desktop subproject. Launched in late October, the project aims to simplify Desktop Linux. Walters' discusses the project goal to offer 'Software which Just Works' for home and office, new user and expert ... "
'Software which Just Works'
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Get to work on that project, then I'll be impressed.
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"for ... new user and expert" -- that's two projects, not one.
My mom wants menus and buttons. I want keybindings and no clutter. She wants an icon to double-click and a minimum of options. I want to customize the hell out of how my stuff looks and works.
Fine, you can have a Basic/Advanced switch, or enormous Preferences tabs, but then that's still two projects and not one.
The "interview" is absurdly short, but I Debian can successfully tackle this as a single project, much less a "(Debian Desktop) Subproject"
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What is this going to do that Gnome and KDE don't already do? Or is this a replacement of X? I still can't find exactly what Debian Desktop is supposed to *do*.
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I have some older computers(486/133mHZ - pentium/166) I am looking for opinions. I want to create simple X-terminals(fvwm2 probably), which dist is the best.
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The Debian Desktop's project wiki has more details about the project's goals and proposals. It sounds like they are following some of the Red Hat 8.0 lead and trying to create a more unified, task-based system. Their proposals are more than just a new GUI.
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This is really something that should be addressed by all distros, not just Debian.
When the user makes any customizations, she should be given an option to test the changes ("Try it now" button) and revert to the previous settings. Inexperienced users are often afraid to make changes, which in their minds (or in reality) might break something, and have a hard time getting into the habit of just playing with different options, unless they are specifically encouraged or made to feel safe.
These are great ideas.
One of the things I've seen over my many years of Slackware use is that the menus for installed window managers often do not reflect actually installed packages. It's simply got to be frustrating for a newbie to see a menu entry for an app that is not installed on the system.
And how about upgrades? It seems to me that upgrading from one version to another should automatically trigger a search to ensure that installed programs are still there so that everything actually works.
Can I help? Erm, no...sorry. I wish I could. It doesn't bother me so much as I've grown accustomed to it, but grandma sure wouldn't tolerate that for very long.
Once again Debian jumps on the already crowded bandwagon and expects everyone to set up and take notice. Debian is the tail of Linux.
Answers to expected comments:
1. 2.4 is as stable as 2.2 except if you are running debian which installs 2.2 as default because 2.4 is "less stable".
2. Windows is an OS, get over it.
3. Distributions based on Debian (xandros...) use it because there is no one to sue them.
4. I love RedHat. They make the best, user friendly, server/desktop ready distribution.
Go Buckeyes!
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The idea is to identify the complaints people currently have as a desktop for ordinary users and start to address them. For example, an ordinary user can't play CDs until they are added to the "audio" group, and they can't run hardware-accelerated 3D programs unless they are part of the "video" group. Likewise, it takes some special tinkering with /etc/fstab to allow ordinary users to access a vfat (Windows) partition. These are minor annoyances for someone who knows their way around Linux, but for the general public they would make many give up and go back to Windows.
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