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Video Streaming Goes Peer-to-Peer

CMU ESM Project writes "Our research group at Carnegie Mellon University has developed a peer to peer streaming video content distribution system called End System Multicast (ESM). The system constructs a self-organizing and adaptive overlay network using the receivers that are tuning into the broadcast events. The system has been used fairly successfully for quite a few events. Now we want test the system with a lot of more users and different user join patterns. We are streaming some very cool video, such as Triumph of the Nerds by Bob Cringely, distinguished lecture by Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, ACM SIGCOMM conference paper presentation by Dave Clark, and 2002 Sony Legged Robot Soccer Championship. Here is the detailed schedule. So please tune in, enjoy, and help test our system!" The streaming is based on QuickTime; for Linux users, the project page steps through installation of CodeWeaver's CrossOver plug-in.

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  1. Oh Boy! More Pr0n! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    All right! A new way to get more Pr0n!

  2. first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    first post... :P

  3. Re:Would you like a larger penis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  4. Quicktime video by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    mplayer also handles Quicktime, though you may have to recompile your kernel.

    1. Re:Quicktime video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      PhysicsGenius is a known troll attempting to karma whore so as to keep himself in the positive posting world. Please don't feed the trolls with positive moderation. Review a posters history before moderating.

    2. Re:Quicktime video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Anonymous coward is known for trolling in such ways as "IN SOVIET RUSSIA...", "BSD IS DYING!", "HOT GRITS", "NATALIE PORTMAN NAKED AND PETRIFIED", as well as the classic hit "PENIS BIRD!". Please, search an Anonymous Coward's history before moderating. Don't feed the trolls.

    3. Re:Quicktime video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      See those trolls are easy to find because they always post the same trash. It is the deceptive trolls like PhysicsGenius and SteweyGriffin who post seemingly intelligent posts but they are actually copying posts from other discussion groups, rehashing old topics, or just plain making up facts. They trick some lazy moderator into giving them karma so that they can then post their trolls at 1 or even 2. If they didn't Karma Whore every so often they would be posting at -1.

      I post as AC so as to avoid being considered a Karma Whore myself. I also post at AC so as to post at 0 which is the proper level for posts such as these.

  5. 13th poST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  6. Hello, there's real news going on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If anybody still cares about fair use rights, they might want to know that

    ELCOMSOFT WON THEIR CASE.

    This is important, and I'm sure it's been submitted. WTF?

    1. Re:Hello, there's real news going on! by stratjakt · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      And I'm sure it will be posted again if you missed it.

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      I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
    2. Re:Hello, there's real news going on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I'm having no luck searching for it, or finding it in older stuff or YRO or anywhere. Some search terms or a link? DMCA, Elcomsoft, etc. turn up nothing. Thanks.

    3. Re:Hello, there's real news going on! by TracerJPN_USMC · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/17/184024 6&mode=thread&tid=123 it was just yesterday...

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      magnanomous.
  7. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Sex change does you!!!

  8. Unfortunately, this isn't a troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The prosecution should have known that the case wasn't going to go well for them from the start. When the defense team for a Russian hacker caught at a hacker convention explaining to the crowd of miscreants exactly how to circumvent Adobe Software's proprietary encryption technology for electronic documents entered a plea of "not guilty" for their client, nobody in the courtroom laughed.

    For the prosecutors in the criminal hacking case against the Russian software company ElcomSoft and the hacker they employed to develop the encryption-busting app, the deck was stacked against them from the start. After the ElcomSoft anti-encryption app was demonstrated by a Russian employee of the company at the notorious Defcon hacker convention in Las Vegas a year ago, US law enforcement arrested the ElcomSoft employee before he could make it back to Russia. The ElcomSoft app stripped away encryption code used by Adobe Software's "eBook" electronic document file format and therefore circumvented the copy protection of Adobe's proprietary intellectual property. When ElcomSoft's Russian employee demonstrated to a crowd of hackers at a hacker convention exactly how to strip the encryption from Adobe eBook files and redistribute an unlimited number of exact digital copies of any information contained in the files for free-as-in-beer over the Internet, he was in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) - a law authorized and approved by former President Bill Clinton in 1998.

    The ElcomSoft employee, a twentysomething Russian programmer named Dmitry Sklyarov, was arrested by Federal investigators before Sklyarov left US jurisdiction. This meant that Sklyarov was to be the first criminal to be held and eventually prosecuted under the DMCA, the bane of hackers everywhere due to its legal ability to hinder them from digital theft via the Internet. Anti-DMCA activists and leftist lawyers at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) in San Francisco immediately packaged and sold Sklyarov as a Christ-like martyr to hackers the world over. Adobe Software would play the role of the hard-line Pharisees while the US Government would act as the Imperial Romans in this twisted and false Passion play. The EFF and other hacker-friendly organizations put together campaigns to protest the injustice of detaining a poor falsely-accused foreigner who came to Jerusal- I mean, Las Vegas to spread the gospel of hacking to the masses hungering for salvation from imperial oppression.

    Aided by journalists that often hate and distrust the motives of any for-profit business (for example, the ElcomSoft encryption breaker app was described by Reuters as a basically harmless little program that "allows users to make copies of electronic books, transfer them to laptops and have the computer read them aloud to the blind" rather than an illegal hacker app), Adobe Software let the negative PR get to them and dropped the charges against Sklyarov soon after his arrest. The Department of Justice continued the case against Sklyarov, his employer ElcomSoft and their public violation of the DMCA at a Vegas hacker convention.

    The EFF, in typical San Francisco anti-American fashion, criticized the DOJ's case against Sklyarov and ElcomSoft as being an affront to civil liberties in cyberspace and laughably claiming that because Russia (the former HQ and main exporter of all brutal Marxist-Stalinist Communism for nearly a century) has no laws against copyright violations on the Internet, Russia therefore has more freedoms than the United States. The EFF has always claimed that gentle Russian programmer Sklyarov didn't know his company's software was illegal on oppressive American soil and that tool makers should not be thrown in jail just because a copyright owner doesn't like the tools. The EFF and other hacker defenders criticized Adobe for not doing enough to create better security for eBook making the claim that Sklyarov was jailed because of his showing the world how inferior Adobe's security was (even though ElcomSoft made no attempt to alert Adobe that it had discovered a security weakness in the Acrobat eBook Reader software prior to selling the anti-encryption software for $99 on its website). The defense likened this to Sklyarov writing a how-to make your own printing press book. This is a lie: Sklyarov did not write a book about how to make a printing press; he made the scanning mechanism for a photocopier that only copies books sold by major publishers.

    Photocopiers aren't bad, but the photocopiers that only run off copies of the newest book in the Oprah Book Club and then fax them to millions of people gratis won't win the grand prize for innovation at the annual "Photocopier Phoundation" awards dinner (especially if the author is one of the judges). The standard argument from the EFF and the hackers is: "Oh, so you advocate arresting someone that makes lock picks?" No, but it's almost a given that those San Francisco leftists defending the rights of the hacker to make "lock picks" would be very open to the idea of big money class-action suits against handgun manufacturers.

    Speaking of San Francisco, I'll go out on a limb and say that a big part of the problem with trying to prosecute Sklyarov/ElcomSoft was the fact that Nevada is part of the Ninth Circuit Court based in the Bay Area. In 2002 CNN noted that particular court is called "the most liberal" by legal scholars. This is a court that contains judges who called the Pledge of Allegiance "unconstitutional." The juries selected to hear the evidence in these California courts thought O.J. was O.K. With that in mind, what possible chance did the prosecution have in getting a conviction in California for a hacker found with hacker programs giving a speech to a group of hackers on how to illegally circumvent copy protection technology?

    1. Re:Unfortunately, this isn't a troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Slashdot rule #3927 - Any post that begins with - "this isn't a troll" - is a troll. A legitimate on-topic post would never need such a disclaimer.

    2. Re:Unfortunately, this isn't a troll by Dunark · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      "...demonstrated to a crowd of hackers at a hacker convention exactly how to strip the encryption from Adobe eBook files and redistribute an unlimited number of exact digital copies of any information contained in the files for free-as-in-beer over the Internet, ..." My goodness, there's a lot of presumtion in the way you said that. Are you a spin doctor for the RIAA or MPAA?

  9. Re:No Support for Mac?? by TracerJPN_USMC · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Actually.. i have a white ibook. It was white, but i used rubbing alcohol to take the paint off, and repainted it myself. Now I have a Marine Corps flag on the top (with glowing EGA) and an American flag on the bottom. Not all mac users are pre-pubscent girls you know.

    --
    magnanomous.
  10. I agree! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The last thing Slashdot needs is for moderators to moderate a comment based on the content. It should be a popularity contest whereby the kids who troll behind the PE building are excluded from participation by the smirking, goody-two-shoes jocks and cheerleaders.

  11. Re:Prepare to hear from the MPAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Oh I'm sorry. Somebody modded the wrong post down. Instead of modding down the troll parent post they modded the child post. Please post to this thread apologizing and wiping out your mistake moderation.

  12. BUT IT IS OFFTOPIC, AND DEAD WRONG. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Sorry to burst your bubble, dipshit.

  13. The problem with p2p multicasting... by TheMidget · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ... what's to prevent some enterprising soul to retransmit this interesting video rather than the original content to his downstream clients...

  14. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    you stupid fuck how can you screw up something as simple as an "In Soviet Russia..." joke are you a complete fucktard?

    In Soviet Russia...
    peer to peer streams YOU!

  15. BotSequitur V1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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