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Sharp C-700 English Conversion Pictures
BoogerBoy writes "When Sharp announced their clamshell designed
C-700 only in Japan I cried. Not anymore. It seems that only a week after its Japan release, the C-700 has been converted to English and for sale. Check out the pictures and brief English review."
to match it's other abilities. I run OpenZaurus on my SL-5500 and I can pick a kernel to use all the ram for swap, 48 swap / 12 storage, etc. This thing's biggest drawback is it only has 32mb of RAM, and my SL-5500 is pretty slow on some applications like the TKC apps when it only has 32mb of swap to chew on.
I can't believe that they link to a review quote by playboy on their main page.
:)
Actually it's not the link as such, its the fact that people actually DO read playboy articles
(Both RAM and hard drive space, that is.)
:)
This would be great on airplanes / in the car / anywhere a full-size laptop is overkill or just awkward.
However, as the review here points out, it doesn't have much storage space of either variety. I guess the ideal I'm hankering for would be something like this Zaurus (small, protected screen, built-in QWERTY keyboard) and the yet-unreleased OQO.
*Even* if it was only used as a small gaming / music / movie machine (a tiny all-media device), it would be very nice, if only there was more room on there. That it's also a nice computer for other things, even better -- if there was more room
(And Yes, microdrives can carry a fair amount, but a) they're quote expensive and b) maybe the bad apples get more news, but there seem to be a lot of complaints re: reliability. An ipod-size 10 or 20GB drive, that would be something, could carry several movies, days worth of audio, important files you don't want lost when the burglars invade your unoccupied home, etc.)
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
they recently ran a little article praising Mozilla, as noted on mozillazine.org
I understand that they have added slightly less coy naked people, too, but Playboy has always been a relatively well-rounded magazine, in fact considerably less horn-dog oriented than things like "Maxim," it's just that the women in Playboy aren't wearing clothing.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
Lets face it people, what is it a PDA can do, that a watch/planner/and calculator can't (and lets just say a highend TI calc for all of you who want to say "play games") besides "RUN LINUX" there isn't anything. Go get a cheap used laptop, it will run at 640x480, run linux, and have all the features a zarus has, well except fit in your pocket.
I think these things clock in high on the "neat-o" scale, but that's about it, how do you justify 7 bones on a PDA?
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
Looks like an HP Omnigo from several years back.
The GUI looks terrible! I hope it can be skinned or something because that sucks! Yuck!
Martin
Get a toshiba libretto!
7.1" TFT screen, laptop hard drive (have a 40 giger in mine) and fits in your pocket...
http://www.silverace.com/libretto/librettocontent. html
;)
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This baby is THE BEST tool I have for my in the field digital photography... 3x the display size of the camera LCD, and portable. Way better than any XDrive or other poirtable camera image storage devices.. and itll play mp3s, so its cheaper than an ipod
Used, about 100$ for a Libretto 110! It'll be your favorite pda sized PC!
are nice but not necessarily innovative. I've got one of these, and if the sharp works this well it's a dream to use.
Blearf. Blearf, I say.
I'd rather have one of the tiny Sony's. They may cost more and be a bit larger, but at least you get a full featured notebook that can run linux OR windows. Hell if you can afford a $700 PDA, you can save up a little more for this.
h tm l
http://www.qart.com.pl/opisy2/Sony-Vaio-PCG-U1.
http://www.japanrush.com/pcg-u1.asp
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
The GUI is customisable with themes. I do agree that those screen shots make the GUI look aweful, but according to the person who created them, he allowed his 3 year old daughter to set the colours.
...is never overkill.
Okay, okay, I'm sure a lot of people will disagree, but with today's laptops being relatively lightweight and inexpensive, I don't see the point of these little doohickeys.
Give me my *real* computer, with 256mb of DDR SDRAM, 40gig hard drive, and DVD/CDRW. I can play The Sims while I'm waiting for classes to start, take notes on a keyboard large enough for serious typing, listen to as many MP3s as I can rip onto my hard drive... and keep my schedule and appointments and everything else close at hand, too.
Give me that over a $700 PDA any day.
is here.
This article seems to disagree with the one linked to on ram, but this article calls it "flash ram" which probably means swap. I use OZ with 64mb of ram and 0 of ramdisk on my SL-5500.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
Yeah, I submitted this on the day it appeared, yada-yada, it got rejected, blah-blah, bitch, bitch, moan, moan...
Why is it that when companies make these devices, they never consider the posibility that someone might actually want to use these things as portable terminals?
And that perhaps, just perhaps, that person will want to do it securely via SSH?
I'm glad it runs linux. It means that it is only a hop/skip/jump away from recompiling ssh to run on the device.
I just wish that SSH should be a defacto and not a "special" package you add on for a large sum of cash.
Winged Power Photography
dynamism is selling some cool looking computer mice designed by anime greats... now only if it came wireless, i'd get them! http://www.dynamism.com/mapp/
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Although I haven't used it myself, from the specs, the Fujitsu Lifebook P1000 looks like a much better alternative, and at $1200 it isn't all that much more expensive. With an extended battery, it runs for 9 hours. Sony's Picturebook series is another ultra-portable choice.
..it looks like a mutated baby iBook. Can we put OS X on it? Pleeease?
Just Another Linux PDA, next story please
...or does the icon for the pseudo-start menu look like a hammer-and-sickle?
Seriously, I mean it :)
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I see that most of you all thing of PDA as only a note taking, appointment scheduling and multimedia (mp3) stuff tool. Cant blame you what with the current crop of Sony clies, Palms, and PocketPC atht allow you only so much and nothing more.
Well the Zaurus first of all is a Handheld - not a PDA - clear distinction there.
And to talk of the tools, you can remotely SSH into it, use it as a network too, demo (note I said demo, not use, so dont flame me there) Apache with PHP pages (even MySQL databse) on it to client on the move, SAMBA to Linux/Windows machines for tuning/Administering etc, use for VoIP long distance from a decent internet conncetion location, of course check your emails and all that regular stuff, do a full fledged internet browsing using Opera/Netfront (not your palm web-clipped stuff here), tenet into your university unix box and fetch your emails etc or lab notes...
I could tell you some more such PRACTICAL apps which the Zaurus provides and it IS a lot more carryable than lugging around the laptop - you got to agree to that.
(I'm running the Crow ROM on my Zaurus, which lets me put /home onto an SD card and get 64Mb as application RAM; can the '700 do something similar?)
for men who are too embaressed to buy Playboy. I'm not making this up. It's their overt raison d'etre. The whole magazine reeks of it too.
Stand up and be a man, and what's more, a *geek.*
Playboy really is the geek's magazine for nudity *and* content.
Asimov, Bradbury ( the space elevator appeared in Playboy before anywhere else. If you weren't reading Playboy you were behind the tech curve), Ellison and many other geek favorites were in the habit of publishing first in Playboy. Gahan Wilson and Shel Silverstien also called Playboy home. The "Playboy lifestyle" was always heavily geek oriented with the latest and greatest of tech, both mechanical and electronic.
A good review in Playboy has always been a highly desirable commodity in the electronics world. The idea that Sharp would link to one is hardly surprising or amusing.
And it doesn't hurt that they present naked women as objects of art and beauty without treating you, or *them*, as being some sort of perv. We were all born naked, and frankly, it's this neurotic focus on clothing and the denial of sexuality that's the perversion.
Magazines like Maxim are obsence they way they actually pander to this neurosis.
KFG
Um...I'm pretty sure you are wrong.
Its been awhile since I used the Sharp rom for the Zaurus, but atleast on OZ ssh-server and client are preinstalled.
forget it.
"special" package requiring cash, nope.
PS. I own one, heck I was the person to first get mplayer ported to it. We also have the battle of the media players xmms-embedded/mplayer vs opieplayer2/xine (right now, x/m is much much better), but your average person DOESN'T care. They just use the lousy built-in player for the most part.
three reasons to say no:
1) The ugly gui.
2) the high price.
3) the people who like it eat at McDonalds.
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or does the original Zaurus have a much prettier UI than this thing? I've taken a look at the current Zaurus on sale here in the US and it looks slick whereas this new one has flat-looking widgets and a very unpolished look.
Yes, I've been to the OZ site. But that is OpenZaurus. That's a non-standard configuration of the Zaurus. The standard one(5500 or 5600) doesn't have SSH installed.
Winged Power Photography
and it doesn't work on most 'compliant' system.
My younger brother's box (900mhz w/ winshit XP) can't run Quake 3 and gets a "Calender Error" whenever ANYTHING tries to open a socket! Who the hell calls that "easy"!?
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
I probably should have expected that. The problem is, is that the Sharp ROM, for linux people is a POS...its completely insane. For a PDA user, its fine.
forget it.
First to Japan, then to some God-forsaken third world country. When are the dudes releasing the thing into Best Country on Earth US of A?
OK, there are a couple out there that are nice. But most are just rehashes of Windows or Motif or some awful window manager. Even when a Linux based GUI LOOKS nice, it acts and feels like crap. Why is it that only Apple has a GUI that not only looks good on a UNIX platform, but also ACTS and FEELS polished.
I see that the keyboard swivels so it can either be a mini-laptop or a regular PDA. So, when you swivel it, the screen has to adjust from landscape to portrait. Does anyone know how this works?
Thank you /.'ers for the interest in the project. We have spent many long nights converting this. For those that have questions on it, please feel free to reply to this or the nvmax.com posting and I will answer as best as I can.
Please understand that my efforts have been in the conversion and I have not dedicated as much time into using the unit, but for the few things that I have used it for... it is remarkable.
LD
Heh. I tend to agree with you. Most "pda" ROMs really aren't designed for flexibilty. I mean, don't get me wrong. My intent IS to install linux on the PDAs that I get. So I'm in favour of the OZ installation. My point was that manufacturers aren't taking the more technically minded into consideration as much as we would like them to.
I think I mentioned it in another post, but I think the OZ installation is great. Though stopping by the local Frys, the keypad is a bit small for me, which is why I opted for the Psion 5. ^_^;;
Winged Power Photography
... or from within your web browser - ain't that cool! :)
P C4 .htm
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/zaurus/zaurus/Remote
is it just me? Screenshot
I have a C700 and convert it to english from japanese requires change 2 characters in one config file from 'jp' to 'en'. If this was the extent of their engineering and worthy of a big story, then I'm just stunned at what a slow news day it is
Here are some other useful SL-C700 links I've found in the last week or so:
MobileNews article with LOTSA pix (in Japanese, but the pix are easy to see).
Here is a mobigeeks blurb (with several off-links to other interesting places, also a forum).
About a quarter of the way down this page, there are some good closeup pix.
Here is an nvmax.com article, describing Dynamism's efforts, and several other off-links.
Here is Sharp's own page, also in Japanese, but has a couple of decent pix.
Here's a German article, with a good description of the specs.
it wouldn't be. Changing the locale settings only converts a portion of it. It gets you about 60% conversion. This is a 95% conversion.
This was also pointed out on zaurus.com.
LD
Sharp denied the rumor about the release in Q12003. It was started by a Japanese reporter who was collecting little tidbits and thought they all pointed to the release.
I have spoken with Sharp USA about this. They are going to test the US market interest in January, but do not know if there will be a release. They did tell me that if there was a release, it would be after Q1.
LD
I just got my SL-5500 - now they come out with this...hmmm it's so tempting, but I don't see a price tag - by my guess it's probably $499-$599 range since my zaurus was $399 now (499 when it came out last year) as cool as the new one looks i'm still really happy with the slide out keyboard, but i bet my zelda rom would play a lot easiers on that system with the screen turned sideways :)
Ave Molech Setting
Yes, I've heard about these, but I think they're even further out of my price range than the microdrives are ...
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hmmm, checking pricewatch, I find a lowball offer of $142 for brand-unspecified 512MB CF card, which is really much better than I thought they were right now. Of course, prices tend to get non-linear toward the edges, and there are no listings for 1GB CF cards as of right now on pricewatch.
a 10GB CF card would be nice; I hope that SD and MM cards don't displace CD cards before that can happen
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
I think there are competing ideas / ideals here between portabilty and functionality.
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given certain circumstances, I'd much rather have a real laptop for the same reasons you name -- screen, storage, battery, drives
However, I'd also like a way to have a computer with me at all times, for the same reasons that people go wild about wearable computers -- I'd like to have it as a (and these are just for instances
- walkman
- notebook
- address list
- to-do-list
- camera (even if that takes a little camera dongle)
- calculator
- book (lots of gutenberg texts loaded on),
- micro-TiVo (a few episodes of A&E's occasional Nero Wolf movies in DivX;), say)
- voice recorder
- GPS and map holder
And I want this magic device to be hand-sized, not cost to much, and use readily replaceable rechargeable batteries, AA for instance.
Sure, that might make it a jack of all trades / master of none, but being able to fit in a pocket would go a long way toward earning forgiveness.
A lot of these things are taken care even by current Palm OS devices or those little pocket PCs, but not all, and certainly not perfectly.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
Agent Red, a fellow MAC user, said that this "vaguely insulted" him, although he "couldn't put his finger on why."
To explain why he feels so uneasy, and indeed to unveil the true plight of MAC users everywhere, I have taken it upon myself to draw the parallels between MAC users and the H.O.M.O.'s of the world:
Well, think about it:
They're ten percent of the population.
The object of their desire comes in rainbow colors.
They are constantly vocal about their preferences for fear of being snowed under by the rest of society.
When people try to get them to switch, they scream and yell about how it's the right thing for them and ask them to "try it just once and see if they like it."
Most of them have been this way for years; it's not a decision they just made overnight.
Although their functions are criticized, the moral majority STILL agree that they are tastefully designed, have an innate sense of colour, and are always on the leading edge of style and fashion.
Too, they are often emulated by the majority with thinly-veiled knockoffs of their style.
And, no matter how we are begged and pleaded, no matter how they may tear their families apart with the shame and stigma of their choice (and some still say it was never a choice!), still they'll never change them.
Finally, their biggest and most visible supporters are in San Francisco.
It's official: Apparently, all Macintosh users are honorary homosexuals.
FAGGOTS !
More info at http://www.gmug.org/
a quote from the article: "Its innovative swiveling screen transforms the shape from PDA-style to laptop-style. "
yep. it's just about as innovative as the toshiba portege 3500 I'm writing this on right now. Too bad it doesn't have the MS Tablet PC API, or an electromagnetic-resistive screen. what a tragedy. It occurs to me that it must be lame when MS does it, but innovative if it runs linux. And no, I'm not a troll. People here just tend not to like anything that microsoft puts out, but will call it the greatest thing since sliced bread the second someone ports linux to the damned thing.
iRooster, the Mac OS X a
and fits in your pocket...
:)
:)
Are you kidding? I will definitely agree that the libretto (I owned an s1100 for a while) is a nice smaller alternative to a laptop, but (IMHO) there is no way you can comfortably carry one in your pocket on a regular basis. But then again, you never claimed "comfort".
I think the size of the sl-c700 is close to perfect. It appears to be the same form factor as the older zaurus zr5000 which I could carry around in my pants pocket comfortably. Even if they COULD make it smaller, the keyboard size would become too small for comfortable "3 finger typing". What they need is a tiny butterfly keyboard like one of the old IBM thinkpads.
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