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DVD Review: Back to the Future Trilogy (Widescreen)

da3dAlus writes "The Back to the Future trilogy has probably been one of the most highly anticipated DVD releases, mainly due to the age and enduring popularity of the movies. No matter how many times the movies have been shown on TV, I guarantee that nobody has seen the Back to the Future series like this before." da3dAlus gives the Robert Zemeckis-directed trilogy a 9.8 out of 10; read the rest of his review below, as well as a warning about the transfer quality.

All 3 movies have undergone audio and video re-mastering. Audio was updated to the de-facto 5.1 digital surround, and all film was not only digitally transferred, but cleaned up and rendered crystal clear. The bonus material not only gives additional value to the DVDs, but also helps to answer numerous questions about the movies, including time travel, plot lines, and the characters themselves. My intentions here are to generally review the DVD, but not reveal any of the specific deleted scenes, for those that still want something to remain a surprise.

To begin, the movies themselves are intact, as originally shown in the theaters. Unlike recent DVD releases of 80s classics (ie. the gun-to-walkie-talkie edits in E.T.), there were no political corrections made. While this is not usually something of concern, there were TV edits made that removed "the Libyans" from the first movie, shortly after the 9-11 events. All that aside, the DVDs are a pretty standard affair, with each one being themed after the respective movies: Part 1 in the 50s, Part 2 in the future, and Part 3 in the old west.

For a DVD box set that has been over 15 years in the making, Zemeckis and team definitely deliver. This set has all that you would expect of any feature-packed DVDs, including deleted scenes, outtakes, original trailers, and behind the scenes features. The movies themselves contain additional commentaries, and an option that pops up an icon for additional production notes and factoids during viewing. Even the deleted scenes have an option for viewing with commentary by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale.

The larger behind the scenes features include a "Making of" for each of the three movies, and an overall "Making of the Trilogy" that spans all three DVDs. Among the smaller behind the scenes features are the evolution of special effects, production Q&A's, making of the DeLorean time machine, and the original discussion of the time-travel plot lines.

Among the only drawbacks I noticed were a few minor flaws in the DVD menus. While viewing the bonus material, some features returned to a pure black menu. However, the problem isn't critical, as pressing the Menu button on your DVD remote will eventually take you back to the main menu. It's just distracting to have such a flaw that appears on each of the DVDs.

Overall, I'm extremely pleased with the conversion of the movies to DVD format, and even more so with the additional material on the DVDs. Personally, I know I've had questions about what I thought were plot holes in the whole time travel theory, and Zemeckis made sure to include plenty of notes, FAQs, and Q&As to clear up any confusion, or add to it, depending on your acceptance of his answers. Bottom line: if you've ever waited for an answer to your "whys" or "what ifs" --- or if you just want to enjoy the movies as they are, then look no further than the Back to the Future trilogy.

However, hang on a second: NetGyver writes with a reason to hold off on buying this trilogy:

"The Digital Bits is reporting that the widescreen matting has been done in error on the BTTF Part II and III discs in the trilogy box set. The results very from minor to extremely irritating. Here is a side by side frame comparison between the full-screen DVDs/Laserdisc/and widescreen DVDs for you to view.

The widescreen DVD set is considered defective and Universal has an exchange program on the way where you can mail in discs II and III for replacements. But that won't roll out until late February 2003. There is no word for disc replacements for other regions besides North America, at least for now. This a fix for those who already own the widescreen DVD set. The corrected DVD batch will arrive in U.S. stores in late February according to Universal Studios."

Slashdot welcomes reader-submitted features and reviews, and thanks da3dAlus for this one.

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  1. HAH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    FAGS....

  2. Back to the future trilogy is great.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    for me to POOP on.

  3. first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    post

  4. Back to the Future THE RIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Anyone ever been on 'Back to the Future: The Ride' at Universal Studios?

    Probably the most overrated peice of crap I've ever been on...

    Gave me a headache. Rough! It sucks. SUCKS!

    I hate fucking Christopher Lloyd. He's a faggot fucker. Why did he ever make that movie Baby Geniuses?

    It had Kim Catrall in it, thank God, so I just sat there holding my balls, patiently waiting for her to appear on screen.

  5. Dont forget the past! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    OPERATING THETAN
    Section Three

    The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 75,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet -178 billion on average) by mass implanting. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanoes (Incident II) and THEN the Pacific area ones were taken in boxes to HAWAII and the Atlantic area ones to LAS PALMAS and then re "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc. was placed in the implants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc.) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development.

    One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc. and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plough around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.

    In December 1967 I knew someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have ALL the data now, but only that given here is needful.

    One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body.

    One has to clean them off by running Incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small.

    Thetans believed they were ONE. This is the primary error. Good luck.* * *

    For the purpose of clarity, by BODY THETAN is meant a thetan who is stuck to another thetan or body but is not in control.

    A THETAN is, of course, a Scientology word using the Greek theta which was the Greek symbol for thought or life. An individual being such as a man is a thetan, he is not a body and he does not think because he has a brain.

    A CLUSTER is a group of body thetans crushed or held together by some mutual bad experience.

    CHARACTER OF BODY THETANS
    Body thetans are just Thetans. When you get rid of one he goes off and possibly squares around, picks up a body or admires daisies. He is in fact a sort of cleared Being. He cannot fail to eventually, if not at once, regain many abilities. Many have been asleep for the last 75,000,000 years. A body Thetan responds to any process any Thetan responds to.

    Some Body Thetans are suppressive. A suppressive is out of valence in R6. He is in a valence in Incident I almost always.

    One can't run a human being on these two incidents since human beings are composites and would not be able to run the lot. Aside from that, non-clears are way below awareness required to even find these Incidents.

    Huge amounts of charge have already been removed from the case AND the body thetans by Clearing and OT I and OT II to say nothing of engrams and lower grades.

    Awareness is proportional to the charge removed from the case.

    Although a human is a composite being there is only one I (that is you) who runs things.

    Body thetans just hold one back.

    You will continue to be you. You, inside, can of course separate out body thetans and so solo auditing is the answer. How good do you have to be to run body thetans off? Well, if you didn't skip your grades, Clearing and OT II particularly, you should be able to command body thetans easily.

  6. Re:Ads ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal Officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up.

    Do not scan through the duration of 36 days. The volcanic explosion on Earth to the point where "the pilot" says he is mocking it up is only a few days.

    Sequence of Incident II for thetans on ANOTHER planet -

    (1) Capture (being shot),
    (2) freezing,
    (3) transport to Teegeeack (sometimes via a relay point),
    (4) being placed near a volcano,
    (5) beginning implant up to "the pilot",
    (6) various picture sequences,
    (7) the 7s and C.C. and OT II materials,
    (8) 36 days of picture implants which give a vast array of
    materials and three explanations for the bombing,(9) transport to Hawaii or Las Palmas for packaging up into
    clusters.

    The pictures contain God, the Devil, angels, space opera, theatres, helicopters, a constant spinning, a spinning dancer, trains and various scenes very like modern England. You name it, it's in this implant we call in its entirety "R6".

    If one was a Loyal Officer on Teegeeack, the sequence was(1) capture (2) number 5 above on. If one was a citizen of Teegeeack
    there was only number 5 on.

    The material given at the various "volcanoes" was no longer or shorter, but dovetailed into the same sequence of pictures. We have the whole text but it is needless.

    People who feel dizzy have gotten into the spinning part.

    * * *
    Incident I occurred about 4 quadrillion years ago plus or minus. It is very much earlier than Incident II which occurred only75 million years ago (a bit less).

    Incident II is only peculiar and general on this planet and nearby stars, whereas Incident I is to be found on all thetans.

    The Basic on BT's

    I've isolated a way a thetan comes to be stuck to another thetan. This gives the basis of clusters and having BT's.

    A thetan collides with another. That one makes a picture of being collided with. Other BT's get stuck to the picture.

    The moment of actual contact of thetans was brief but the picture (containing a stop or withdraw) tends to be permanent.

    Thetans then get the idea they can be permanently stuck as they see pictures of it happening.

    Thus we get the concept of a "black theta body". This would be actual BT's stuck to a thetan plus pictures of BT's stuck to a thetan.

    An answer to all this is to find the first picture a thetan made of contacting another thetan.

    If not at once available the earliest instance of a thetan contacting (colliding, running into, attacking) another thetan could be achieved by R3R on being suddenly hit with clusters or strange beings.

    The idea is to find and run the "first picture" one made of another thetan.

    This opens another way to "blow off" BT's - run R3R on a BT to the first picture the BT ever made of another thetan.

    Instructions

    Locate by meter read or an area of pressure, a body thetan or group (cluster). Run Incident II. If the BT does not blow off or the group break up and blow, then run Incident I on individual BT's. Each will blow off with an F/N.

    When you can find no more on which to run Incident I's, once more locate a pressure area or by meter read on looking over body run another Incident II. Then Incident I's on any.

    Incident II made clusters of BT's. Severe impacts and experiences ALSO make clusters. (See the data called "Milazzo" in this pack.) Those who do not leave on running the impact or its chain will leave when Incident I is run on them.

    Incident II sometimes forms gigantic clusters. In such there is a leader, an alternate leader and several (eight to eighteen) more. These were all implanted in different volcanic areas with fractions of the main 36 day implant and then "packaged" in Las Palmas or Hawaii. This if you run Incident II as far as "the pilot" it blows up or loosens up and those who don't go away can be run on Incident I's.

    Do not speak your commands. Just "intend" them. A BT controls easily. BT's can be ARC broken by rough or careless auditing. You can also run an Incident II on a BT and he doesn't blow, but you accidentally run in Incident I on another one and leave the first still there. The remedy is to run Incident I's on anything you find.

    A very SP BT can be run on grades and Power and should then respond to Incident II and Incident I.

    After a BT leaves, some other BT may copy him or the incident just run.

    If you have found a cluster (pressure area) that does not respond or disintegrate to Incident II running, get Dianetic auditing, listing "what impact or incident would cause a cluster?" and R3R on the items found. Then do more Incident I's to clean up the strays with solo. This is a refined "Milazzo".

    There are hundreds of BT's you will find.

    If you find none, get audited on Dianetics in general and as above (impact list), and if you still find none, get a review GF40 and handle all items, then go back to solo.

    If you find only one or two, get the Dianetic impact list done.

    All "none on OTIII" cases were later found loaded.

    Do Incident II and Incident I's on what you can find to begin with. You will do fine. Good hunting.

    Certain "buttons" have to be gotten in where running a thetan through incidents. The EFFORT TO STOP the motion hangs up the action and gives a stuck picture. One gets the EFFORT TO STOP off and the scene races through.

    The EFFORT TO WITHDRAW is important also and hangs up the action and creates a vacuum.

    RUSH, PROTEST, NOT-IS, SUPPRESS are also present.

    These were actions - thoughts - the thetan had during the incident and are picked up only when the incident doesn't run well. Sometimes two "buttons" such as STOP and WITHDRAW are in combination.

    Thetans in the body may obsessively copy the pictures of other thetans. Therefore you can find it seems that the thetan who just left is still there because there is a picture left. Spot the fact that someone else copied it and it usually goes.

    If you do an S & D on a body thetan be sure you give the right item to the right thetan.

    Cross Auditing

    When one runs Incident I out of one thetan and then Incident II out of another (thinking it was the first one) one can get a partially run body thetan who won't blow, but who may start to go on through the whole of R6 automatically (since the basic-basic Incident I is not run, yet Incident II is). Once can get quite ill doing this as the illness in R6 can turn on.

    One can also "feel no wish to audit". All "no desire to audit" is some large blunder on a case.

    The way you can run Incident I out of one thetan and Incident II out of another is rather easy. One fails to notice the first one blow on having Incident I run and runs Incident II on another.

    * * *
    As a matter of data, the only trouble in a III OT run is running an Incident I on one thetan and an Incident II on another, thinking it was the first one. A pre-OT can freewheel into R6 if you run only an Incident II. You can stop a freewheel at once by running Incident I off the same thetan you ran the Incident II on that started a freewheel.

    Freewheel means that the PC goes on automatic continuous run. Incident II is R6 75,000,000 years ago. Incident I is about 4 quadrillion years ago. Both, all thetans on this planet and 21 nearby stars have in common. All thetans in the universe have Incident I. Only those in this old Confederation have Incident II and R6. All C.C. and OT II materials are in R6 75,000,000 years ago. These are followed by 36 days worth of motion pictures - God, Devil, space opera, trains, cars, helicopters, crashes, stage etc. This R6 is 75,000,000 years ago, and this planet and Confederation.

    If the volcano bit is run as per III directions but the Incident I is not run on the same thetan, R6 begins to run off on automatic, the Being can't sleep for days, the body dies. That's the way it was designed.

    Overrun on III

    The only way you can get a read on "Overrun on III" is to have accidentally run Incident I out, and then later run it out again on the same thetan or make a similar blunder. Example: One flattens Incident I by several passes on a body thetan. This body thetan for some reason (Mostly because Incident II was then not run) does not fly off. Then, not noticing, one again finds the same thetan and once more seeks to run Incident I. One then gets, in answer to the question "Overrun on III?" a lot of reads and overrun phenomena.

    The remedy is to find out WHO was overrun and get the charge off by that action.

    One then runs Incident II on that thetan or in any event, by getting off the charge of "overrun", letting the thetan depart.

    Just because one's meter reads "Overrun on III" is no reason to attest. Find out who was. It's almost always a body thetan.

    * * *
    A BT can be overrun past erasure. This fact sometimes causes a solo auditor to believe OT III is overrun.

    If he asks "Is OT III overrun?" he may get a read and blowdown. This is actually usually just one BT or cluster that is overrun. The remedy is discovering and indicating the point of overrun. And carry on with OT III.

  7. Leah Tompson by roccothegreat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I cant wait to see the making of Leah Tompson's huge HOOTERS in the second Movie. "Mom . . . your so . . . BIG!", said Marty McFly.

  8. Incident I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It does not matter whether or not you ran Incident I and II on self. The End Phenomena of III is getting rid of all body thetans. This does not necessarily include self. If you overrun III it will be by trying to get rid of more body thetans than there were or by then, having got rid of the others, starting in on self. So III is complete for purposes of overrun as above. If you have not done Incident I and II on self when above is achieved, attest completion and then do I and II on self.

    EP's: No BT's left = OT III, Exterior = OT IV

    List of Volcanoes

    There were two zones of assembly after the thetan was implanted. Thetans of volcanoes in Asia and the Pacific were taken to Hawaii. Thetans of Atlantic areas were taken to Las Palmas.

    Asia and the Pacific: North Japan Mt. Shasta South Japan San Gorgornio Krakajawia Indonesia Mount Washington Philippines Mount Ranier Himalayas Mount Hood (Hawaii) Andes

    Atlantic: Tangier (Las Palmas) St. Helena Canada Kolomonjero

    (Spelling not guaranteed) (List may be incomplete)

    Incident II: 75,000,000 years ago on this planet. Sometimes capture was on another planet and explosion on this planet, then called Teegeeack. Locate area of explosion. Pictures of explosion follow it. Get original explosion. Effort to stop usually present.

    H-BOMB DROPPED ON VOLCANO
    EXPLOSION
    TERRIFIC WINDS
    THETAN CARRIED OVER PEAK
    ELECTRONIC RIBBON CAME UP
    HE STUCK TO IT
    IT WAS THEN PULLED DOWN AND HE WAS (AS PART OF A GROUP)
    IMPLANTED WITH R6
    PICTURE OF PILOT SAYING HE IS MOCKING IT UP
    (R6 materials follow, then days of pictures of God, Devil, etc.)

    (Thetan usually cognites on pilot or before (or on first incident) and leaves.)

    Incident I: Occurs at start of track (4 quadrillion years ago).

    LOUD SNAP
    WAVES OF LIGHT
    CHARIOT COMES OUT, TURNS RIGHT AND LEFT
    CHERUB COMES OUT
    BLOWS HORN, COMES CLOSE
    SHATTERING SERIES OF SNAPS
    CHERUB FADES BACK (RETREATS)
    BLACKNESS DUMPED ON THETAN
    Effort to stop must be gotten off (sometimes to hurry). Run as an engram.

    THE BB [Basic-Basic] GPMs

    This is a series of 5 GPMs, all the same pattern occurring about trillions 214th Power years ago.

    Run the two lines all as one line, not as separate items for each number.

    The explosions occur "inside one's head" or, that is to say, where the Thetan is.

    FOREIGN LANGUAGE CAUTION
    When a student in the course does not have English as his native tongue, or as language changes through the years, or when the Clearing course is translated into another language.

    The greatest care must be used to establish the exact meaning or equivalent words. The most precise meaning is required and off shades will prevent erasure with much upset.

    Such a student or translator must use a Meter to obtain the translated word and establish its correctness. It will, of course, be the most *lasting* read which lasts after all other versions have ceased to read.

    Ordinarily when you have the right equivalent, wrong versions will not read.

    Sometimes when you have discarded the right one you have to regain it by finding one which reacts to "suppress" or "challenge." Only the right version reacts to these.

    It would be well to check all the key words of a GPM for the correct version of non-English words before attempting to actually run it.

    One should rewrite the entire GPM or pattern in the native tongue one uses. Don't attempt sight translation.

    [ Note: for brevity in uploading, this has been condensed to one set of commands. In the original, they were written out for EACH endword, a total of79 handwritten pages.

    Each set of 26 items is run through on each endword; 1-26 for endword 1, then 1-26 on endword 2, etc. More instructions after the command set.

    The endwords are: 1. Self 2. Mind 3. Body 4. Spirit 5. Head 6. Memory 7. Mass 8. Thought 9. Universe 10. Belief 11. People 12. Intention 13. Society 14. Custom 15. Government 16. Concept 17. Religion 18. Computation 19. System 20. Reason 21. Health 22. Logic 23. Poison 24. Secret 25. Interior 26. Amnesia end of editor's comments]

    After the last endword, there is a SMASH!

  9. Here's Some Real News: War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Casualties of an 'Undeclared War'
    Civilians Killed and Injured as U.S. Airstrikes Escalate in Southern Iraq

    By Peter Baker
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Sunday, December 22, 2002; Page A01

    BASRA, Iraq -- She flinches just a bit when the air raid siren comes on. Not
    because it is unusual, but because it is not. And because it reminds her of that
    day just a few weeks ago.

    The sirens sound most every day, once, twice, sometimes more. They are
    followed by the sound of jet planes soaring overhead. Then the soft puffs of
    antiaircraft fire off in the distance.

    What Nahla Mohammed remembers from that day, however, is not the sirens or
    the jet planes, but running into her son on the street just after she finished
    shopping for supper. He asked what she would fix, she recalled. Meat, vegetables
    and soup, she answered. He headed off, anticipating the family meal.

    Ten minutes later, according to a cousin who was there, a powerful blast
    slammed him to the ground as metal shards sliced through his body. Mohammed
    Sharif Reda, a 23-year-old mechanic married just two months and planning to
    build a house for his family, was among four people who Iraqi officials said were
    killed Dec. 1 in what they call an "undeclared war" being waged here in southern
    Iraq.

    While U.S. troops flow into the Persian Gulf region in preparation for a possible
    invasion of Iraq, U.S. and British warplanes fire regularly on what the Pentagon
    describes as military targets. U.S. officials say the bombings and missile attacks
    are responses to Iraqi challenges to enforcement of the southern "no-fly" zone in
    place since 1991 -- painting aircraft with air defense radars or shooting at them.
    But the pace of the attacks has quickened demonstrably in recent months and
    the Pentagon has broadened its targets to a wide array of command and
    communications facilities in what analysts see as an effort to weaken Iraq's
    defenses.

    The attack on Dec. 1 destroyed a pair of large vehicles parked in an oil company
    courtyard in the center of Basra, the country's second-largest city, located near
    the Kuwaiti border. U.S. military spokesmen said they hit an air defense facility,
    not an oil company, and in any case never deliberately attack civilian targets. But
    something obliterated the vehicles here and everyone questioned believes it was
    the Americans.

    "Every day, every day, all the time. Why?" cried Reda's widow, Najila, 25, at the
    family home around the corner from the Museum of the Martyrs of Hostile
    Persian Shooting. "I ask you: Why is America bombing?"

    Through the first four months of the year, U.S. and British forces struck Iraqi
    sites in the northern and southern no-fly zones just six times, while in the past
    four months they have launched about four dozen air raids. So far in December,
    the U.S. military has reported nine strikes around southern cities such as Kut,
    Nasiriyah, Amarah and Basra, including one here on Friday.

    Iraqi officials complain that U.S. and British aircraft violated their airspace for
    patrols 1,141 times between Nov. 9 and Dec. 6. In response, Iraqi antiaircraft
    batteries have fired at U.S. and British planes more than 470 times this year,
    according to a Pentagon count, although the Iraqis have never succeeded in
    shooting one down.

    The no-fly zones were imposed to protect a Kurdish enclave in the north and
    rebellious Shiite Muslims in the south from possible attack by President Saddam
    Hussein's aircraft. While Iraq and several major powers do not recognize the
    legitimacy of the zones, they have become an inescapable fact of life here.

    "Not many people realize that a war has been going on for the last several years
    in the no-fly zone," said Gen. Amir Saadi, a top Hussein adviser. "The very people
    that Britain and the United States claim to be protecting, they're killing them,
    maiming them, depriving them of their normal livelihood and also destroying the
    infrastructure which is there to serve them."

    The Pentagon disputes that and includes a statement at the end of each
    announcement of another raid: "Coalition aircraft never target civilian
    populations or infrastructure and go to painstaking lengths to avoid injury to
    civilians and damage to civilian facilities."

    Until recently, U.S. and British warplanes responding to threats from Iraqi forces
    limited their strikes to gun emplacements, radar facilities and other sites involved
    in trying to hit them. But Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld in August
    ordered his commanders to widen the target list to include more communications
    centers, command buildings and fiber-optic links.

    The more strategic targeting led U.S. forces to strike the Tallil air base, the air
    defense sector headquarters about 160 miles southeast of Baghdad, a dozen
    times this fall. With hardened revetments for aircraft, surface-to-air missiles and
    two major runways, Tallil protects the southern approach to the capital and was
    a major target during the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

    In September, U.S. planes also hit radars at a remote military airfield 240 miles
    west of Baghdad, far from most antiaircraft fire, in a move that analysts
    speculated could be intended to open a corridor for Special Forces helicopters to
    enter the western desert undetected.

    The campaign in the south was recently expanded to include propaganda
    warfare as well. Aircraft dropped 480,000 leaflets at six locations in southern Iraq
    last week, the seventh time they have conducted such drops in the past three
    months, according to military officials. The leaflets, distributed in areas where
    coalition planes recently struck, warned Iraqis against repairing fiber-optic cables
    and said rebuilding defensive facilities would put their lives in danger.

    The leaflets also directed Iraqis to a radio frequency where they could listen to
    U.S. broadcasts now beamed into the country for several hours a day by military
    aircraft as they patrol the no-fly zone.

    While the zones were established to shield Iraqis from their leader, they have
    served to embitter at least some of the people, and government officials assert
    that they even solidify support for Hussein. "When it gets worse and worse, the
    people will be closer to the leadership," said Lt. Gen. Hadi Abdul Reda, head of
    civil defense in Basra. "They make me more eager to face the Americans."

    "We hate them," said Mesa Ali, 25, a mother of two young boys who lives across
    the street from the site of the Dec. 1 bombing. The blast shattered her front
    window, covering her 18-month-old son with broken glass. "They want to get the
    oil and make us slaves."

    "It's a crime," said Ali Abid Hamid, 31, who works at a nearby cement company
    and helped his cousin get to a hospital to treat a slashed throat after the
    explosion. "There is no reason to bomb civilians. They want to make problems."

    It remains unclear how many civilians have actually been hurt or killed by the
    recent U.S. and British bombing. Even by Iraqi reports, most targets seem to be
    military facilities and government officials decline to take journalists there.

    The Dec. 1 episode, however, clearly left noncombatants dead and injured,
    according to interviews with survivors, relatives, witnesses and doctors. The U.S.
    military reported dropping 23 precision weapons from 13 aircraft in southern
    Iraq that day in retaliation for antiaircraft fire at warplanes patrolling the
    northern no-fly zone two days earlier, the first time they had struck in the south
    for an incident in the north.

    The U.S. military said it hit unspecified air defense targets near Basra and Kut,
    but not an oil installation. Witnesses and survivors, though, said two explosions
    erupted in the yard of the state-run Southern Oil Co. in the center of Basra
    between 10 and 11 a.m., about the time U.S. warplanes were reported to be
    striking. Iraqi officials said four people were killed and 27 injured.

    U.S. officials in the past have accused Hussein of positioning mobile air defense
    units in civilian locations in an effort to prevent them from being destroyed or to
    draw enemy fire that would kill innocents, thus creating a propaganda victory for
    Iraq. From the street, about 50 yards away, it appeared clear that at least two
    large vehicles were demolished by the explosions at Southern Oil. But it was
    impossible to determine whether they were civilian trucks or mobile missile
    launchers or radars.

    Iraqi officials would not allow an American reporter inside the compound to
    examine the site.

    What was clear was that people such as Watheka Raheem Feyad were in the
    wrong place at the wrong time. Feyad, 25, a clerk at Southern Oil, had just
    returned from vacation and was walking between buildings when she was
    suddenly blown off her feet.

    "I felt like I was being sucked up into the air, two to three meters up," she said.
    "I didn't know if it was a rocket or a missile or a bomb. I didn't know what was
    the matter. I was afraid and shocked. The noise was very, very loud and I lost
    feeling in my legs. I closed my eyes because I was so scared."

    Two colleagues dragged her away, she said, and she later woke up in the
    hospital. Her brother, Ali Raheem Feyad, 38, raced to the hospital at 100 mph
    when he heard the news and was initially told that she was dead. She was not,
    but she suffered a head injury and multiple fractures of her leg, which is now in
    a metal splint, and still has shrapnel in her body. She takes six types of drugs,
    faces several more operations and will need at least a year before she can walk
    again, according to her doctor.

    Mohammed Sharif Reda was not so lucky. Walking outside the gate, he and his
    cousin were caught in the blast, family members said. His relatives were already
    angry at Americans, blaming his uncle's death from cancer in March on depleted
    uranium used in some U.S. weapons in the area.

    "They are killing people," Nahla Mohammed, 49, who has lost her son and
    brother, said, occasionally succumbing to tears as she talked. "Why do they
    commit such crimes? Why was my son just walking along the streets and died?
    Why?"

    Reda's cousin, Sabah Hassan Mohammed, 23, who was walking alongside him
    that day, survived but suffered deep gashes in his left leg and deep resentment
    in his heart. At the hospital last week, he winced in pain and clutched his
    brother's hand.

    "I will get better and I will take revenge, for me and for others," he said. "We
    are strong. Even if they keep bombing us, we will bear it and we will show them
    the results."

    © 2002 The Washington Post Company

  10. Re:1.21 JIGAWATTS!?!?!?!!? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    "Re:1.21 JIGAWATTS!?!?!?!!? (Score:2)
    That must be what Will Smith calls Gigawatts "


    I didn't realize Scott Adams was a /. frequenter.

  11. Lazarus Long fucked his mum. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you don't believe me, grab a copy of the Heinlein novel.

  12. Re:Libyan terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Go kill yourself, you jew.

  13. DeLorean Gullwing Door For Sale by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Hey all,

    I've got a driver's side door for a 1981-1983 DeLorean DMC-12 for sale, and since this is already a DeLorean forum, I though. "What the hey".

    Driver's side door, minor dent around the lock cylinder, and a smaller one which looks like it might have been inflicted by an errant shopping cart. (It was replaced because the car was otherwise a 100-point show car.)

    This door is great as a conversation piece, or as a replacement door for a driver, though not appropriate for a show car.

    Info and photos will be provided to serious enquiries only.

    Go to my website and message me with the form.

    --
    Fire and Meat. Yummy.
  14. Re:(Slightly OT) Nintendo's censors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A full-circle tangent reminds me of tits.