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New Red Hat Beta

Posted by timothy on from the anticipate-smoothliness dept.

Alkini writes "Red Hat just announced a new beta, codenamed Phoebe. Their highlight list includes Mozilla 1.2.1 with Xft antialiased fonts and glibc-2.3.1. The new beta can be downloaded from RH's FTP site or one of the mirrors."

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  1. Updated Mirror List by Laven · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is a more complete mirror list. Mirrors will hide and unhide as they become full. Please e-mail me if you find additions or corrections for this list.

    http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/phoebe_mirrors.html

  2. I was hoping they would wait. by FreeLinux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    KDE 3.1 has been delayed until early/mid January for a security audit. KDE 3.1 is VERY nice and is another big step forward for KDE. I had hoped that Red Hat would delay their 8.1? release until KDE 3.1 could be included. Unfortunately it looks like we will still have the "crippled" KDE 3.0.5 in Red Hat 8.1.

    I definitely understand that Red Hat has an affinity for Gnome, and that's fine for them, but for full compatibility you really need to install both Gnome and KDE so why not have the best KDE?

    With Mandrake's newly returned cash crunch, Suse is looking like a strong contender on the distro front. However, don't forget Knoppix, the newest "distro".

    1. Re:I was hoping they would wait. by ajs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      1. KDE was never crippled. A release of 3.1 would have the same bluecurve theme that 3.0.5 did, so anyone who thinks bluecurve is the spawn of Satan, would likely think the same of this beta with or without a pre-release of KDE.

      2. Red Hat does not hold up a release unless they absolutely have to, otherwise they would never release. Making the call to go ahead without some key new development is always agonizing, but I don't think we can reasonably armchair quarterback those calls. I'd rather than both RH and KDE wait and make sure everything is ready for the public than get it all early in RH8.1 and find it's broken.

      3. Just because they're releasing a beta now doesn't mean that it's all final. If KDE 3.1 releases in time and has no significant changes from 3.0.5 that prevent fast Q/A, perhaps RH will include it.

      4. I don't think it's entirely fair to ascribe Red Hat's release timetable (which has been at a pretty steady pace of 6 months per release since the early days) to liking Gnome better than KDE.

  3. 8.1 will have to wait... by ACK!! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just got my RH8 laptop singing with the new kernel and they go out and release a beta!

    Well, I think I will just wait. Sit back and watch the flack and see what people like/dislike and have trouble with before I go jumping into a new release. I got a lot of the stuff they are pushing already from Nyquists apt repository. At least the stuff I wanted like fontillus and gstreamer and such.

    I think RH has come a long way so far and hope to see it progress even further.

    My wish list is:

    Larger set of server configuration tools like NIS server, client, LDAP server and client GUI apps. A network shares app that could handle samba and nfs would be really helpful (Ximian Setup Tools had one way back in the day).

    Menu-editing for individual users.

    Faster hardware check tool so bootup wouldn't hang there figuring out my configuration so long.

    Graphical boot messages screen so my bootup can get slower :->.

    System-wide font installer like KDE has. Fontillus installs fonts drag and drop for users.

    Package Management tied to apt freshrpms repository. I like the GUI package management tool but end up using synaptic because it is not tied to apt.

    I can think of other things. Can you?

    What things would you like to see?

    Constructive stuff not just RH sucks garbage.

    --
    ACK /ak/ interj. 2. [from the comic strip "Bloom County"] An exclamation of surprised disgust, esp. i
  4. Re:Good stuff by Gomer+Pyle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, the fonts (with Xft2) on the 1.2.1 version of Mozilla look great. Install freetype, Xfree, Xft2, free-fonts, share-fonts, (and Gnome 2.0 if you use it) from unstable. I just did a clean install of Gentoo over the weekend and I can't believe how good my fonts look now. I didn't even have to touch any config files.

  5. Re:8.0 was great, but... by JWW · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You are correct, Mandrake 9 fixed almost all of these issues. This new version will have a long way to go before it even catches up with Mandrake.