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Microsoft Ordered to Carry Java
An anonymous reader was the 17,232th person to submit that "Microsoft has been ordered to include Sun's Java runtime in Windows. Coverage from AP (via Yahoo), Reuters (via news.com), and, let's say, the BBC."
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What's wrong with people just downloading it for themselves? This seems like unecessary government intrusion.
--sdem
That's simple; Java is Free and Open like the GPL!!
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This is the logical extension of "Airbag Politics". Despite the fact that airbags kill more children than school shootings, the government continues to legislate guns out of existence and airbags into existence. So too shall the government legislate Microsoft out of existence and Sun into a monopoly. Arbitrary conclusions fueled by non-facts are costing hard working enterprises their very existence.
Poppycock!
Dr. Joseph Hairston
Superintendent, CCBC
No, what a fucked-up comment. Geez, learn to read -- and think.
The only reason that Sun would lose is because there's no compelling reason for most people to use it. They've completely failed to build a user and developer base on their own, so they instead go to the government for help. Scott McNealy is simply inept. That's why Sun would fail.
Sun is saying lots of things, that does not make them true.
Sun is the DEC of the 2000s. Its hardware business is stagnant and its software business has no real connection to the hardware. They are under attack from Open Source and from IBM. They are likely to face a very stiff challenge from Apple. However they spend 65% of their time whining about Microsoft.
The guys at Redmond are laughing their asses off at Sun. They are winning the battle and losing the war.
OEMs already have the right under the federal settlement to add Java if they chose. They also have the right under the same settlementto remove components they don't want to ship. What do you think the probability is that Dell and HP will choose to ship the Sun code? They don't think any more of Sun than Microsoft does, they are competitors in the hardware business and the sooner Sun dies the better as far as they are concerned.
I doubt that it will come to that as Microsoft will certainly appeal and the chances of blocking the temporary injunction are pretty good, they can win simply by spinning out the appeal.
Java on the client is a pretty wierd idea. Very few sites have ever used Java. I don't think we will suddenly see a rush to switch from flash to Java on the basis that Microsoft will be shipping the latest version for the next year.
The judgement has no effect on server side java. If you are going to do java on the server you are big enough to load it youself.
So where exactly does this rulling have any effect - except on the size of Scott's ego.
The Sun lawsuit is simply a way for a failed management team to cover up their mistakes while they make good on their exit strategy. They will survive as is for maybe a year or so but in the long term they are going to be bought by IBM once their market cap has settled to a more reasonable level.
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An anonymous reader was the 17,232th person to submit ... and still, only *one* story was posted! The Slashdot editors are improving quickly!
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Hey, dumbass, the only way to GET the .NET runtime is to go to the Windows Update site and request it. At which point it does, as a matter of fact, show up under Add/Remove Programs.
.NET runtime is going to stay on Add/Remove Programs for long. Their obvious goal is an OS where the absence of .NET will render your computer inoperable.
Enjoy your upcoming Score:5, M$-Bash moderation.
Only a few things to say about this:
1. I hit the "Excellent" cap already so neener neener neener. If I could trade my Slashdot karma for something real, like 50 cents, I might give a crap.
2. Early versions of IE also appeared in Add/Remove Programs. Seeing that Microsoft is deprecating C/C++ for Windows development and is furiously rewriting as much of their crap as possible in C#, I don't see how you think that the
3. (This is a rant, not directed against your post in particular, but the 17,231 other posts I've read that are just like it.)
People say bad things about Microsoft all the time, for the simple reason that there are so many bad things to say about them. It's become chic recently to play "Let's defend Microsoft" every time someone bashes them, even if the basher has a valid argument. "Look at me! I'm so cool, defending Microsoft! I'm going to get modded down by all you hypocrites! I'm going to get a -1, pro-Microsoft! Huh huh huhuh huh huh!"
But the majority of these posts are all the same- each one is a straw man attack on what the poster thinks is a Slashdot stereotype of a Linux hippie who hates successful software companies because they make money and don't release all their software under the GPL. In fact you can't engage in any discussion about Microsoft around here anymore without some douchebag replying with the same pro-MS post I've read hundreds of times already! And this same post gets modded up all the time because moderators feel guilty for disagreeing with an unpopular opinion (even if it's unpopular for being wrong) and they want to be "fair".
But knee-jerk defense of Microsoft doesn't automatically make you cool. It doesn't make your post worth reading. Maybe it used to, but not anymore. Maybe you have an interesting defense of Microsoft we haven't seen 17232 times before. If so please share it. If you're just going to play the part of an antisocial pro-MS stooge then shut up. And if you're moderating, please try to recall for a moment whether you have already read the same post by a different author before you give it mod points just for expressing a sentiment in favor of Microsoft.