Peter writes "You may find it interesting to know that I've just released a port of MAME for SonyEricsson's latest P800 smartphone. It's called EMame" 'Cuz if there is one thing my cel phone was lacking, it's asteroids, Ms. Pac-Man, and Joust. Delicious.
ring...ring...DMCA Calling
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axis-techno-geek
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It's like Avon, but without the sales pitch;)
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Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling
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Gordonjcp
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Guess what? Most of the world *doesn't* have the DMCA. It's only in the Land of the "Free" that you can be locked up for knowing how to decypher ROT-13.
Not being from the US, but living next door, I can just imagine being arrested at the border for possessing "illegal" material.
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Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling
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Gordonjcp
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Ok, ok... It can be hard to tell, around here...
BTW, congratulations on getting first post - probably the first sensible front-page first post for three years.
Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling
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Cpt_Kirks
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The DoJ doesn't want to admit it, but the Russians just blew a big smoking hole in the DMCA.
Maybe the Supremes will finish it off now. But I doubt it.
Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling
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Gordonjcp
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Yay! Hopefully...
I feel really sorry for you people, stuck in a country where the government is 0wn3d by the big money...
Games for eMAME
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Oculus+Habent
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What we need now is to establish a pay-service for downloading games for eMAME so bored phone owners can peruse a selection of games, buy one, download it and use it immediately.
What do you think, $0.75 per download?
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Re:Games for eMAME
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brightertimes
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I wouldn't worry about getting the games for the sony p800.. The phone has not been released yet. It was supposed to be released sometime soon but the latest rumours point to March 2002.
Ah well...:)
All my friends made fun of me having AOL/IM on my phone.
They stopped making fun of me once I told them it had gotten me laid.
Don't get me wrong, I don't intend to ever play a video game on my cell phone. Because I carry my iBook and iPod with me everywhere. All these toys make my life much, much more interesting, productive, and enjoyable. So, once all y'all old geeks die off, and the nation is populated by people that were using cell phones and touch typing in grade school, we won't have to listen to y'all's luddite complaints anymore.
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new way to avoid tickets
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Shymon
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"But officer i didn't relize i was speeding, i was too busy playing pac-man on my cell phone."
"using a cell phone is no excu....did you say Pac Man? sweet!..."
Another Reason
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Ashetos
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Another reason why palm and WinCE are on their way out. This what its all about: "convergence".
Ever since getting the P800's cheper brother, the T68i, I've never looked back. Now I no longer have to carry around my palm pilot and keep my appointments and contacts on a tiny, tiny device.
That's what you say now...but in two months time, I'll be able to play Civilization on my Palm! Yes, Sid Meier's Civilisation! W000000t! Do that on your p800 or t68i:)
Is it just me...
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perly-king-69
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or is the one thing worse than a train full of mobile phones ringing is a train full of mobile phones on full volume on which asteriods/pacman/crappy 80's game being played? Beep , beep-beep, beep, beep-beep-beep AAAAARRRRGGGHH.
Now you can simultaneously wreck in the game and in the car. Weeeoooooh!
No, a quarter!
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Chazmati
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I think $0.25 just like it used to be: nostalgic price for a nostalgic game. Yeah, there was inflation, but there's also Moore's law (meaning today's arcade games are much more sophisticated, even if they're not better for it).
FPS on your cell phone
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Oculus+Habent
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You know, it's somewhat sad to think of right now, but we will probably see cell phones with nVidia chipsets rivaling our currently mid/high range graphics cards in the next five years.
Hopefully not too soon, mind you, but as we integrate more functions into a cell phone, we will probably find a few of them used as a video-conferencing device (use your headset and set/hold the phone in front of you) as well as representational 3D models of urban areas for the ultra-expensive GPS navigation systems.
PDA's will get there sooner, and PocketPC computers should be there any time now (all that advanced business modeling...) - wouldn't it be interesting to be an architect oe engineer and take fully editable designs with you in your pocket?
Maybe I'm just crazy.
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Re:FPS on your cell phone
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Tenebrious1
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but we will probably see cell phones with nVidia chipsets rivaling our currently mid/high range graphics cards in the next five years.
Heh heh...
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Re:FPS on your cell phone
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Mac+Degger
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Well, 3d chipsets are already being developed for mobile devices. But trust me...unless I can get a big (roll-out) screen, I do NOT want to check/edit my construction drawings on my palm: screensize is just to small to be practical.
As for taking them with me...can do already...just chuck 'em into the memory and take em to work.
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Profit Margin
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perly-king-69
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This is probably the exact reason why Orange's MS Smartphones will only run 'signed' applications - ie you must pay Orange/MS before your app will run on their smartphones.
The telecoms operator can then lock-out apps (such as this) which could eat into their profit margin. Downloadable (pay-per-play) mobile games are allegedly going to be next years big thing in the mobile world.
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Re:Profit Margin
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nchip
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You can do this J2ME too.. Operator justs blocks all but their (pay-per-play) apps at their wap gateway. most phones can install applications only over WAP, so the only games user will be able to get are the ones operator sells.
But most operators won't do that, if they have learned anything from the WAP fiasco. Nobody used WAP when you had to pay for everything. You had to pay for both traffic and content. Then operators slowly opened their wap gateways and allowed people to access any wap content in the net. As the result, people are starting use WAP, and the operators are starting to get money from the wap traffic.
charging people for using even the simplest games/apps is a great way to make people feel being ripped of.
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How is one supposed to control this thing? The P800 doesn't actually have any buttons, it's just one giant touch screen, and the eMame home page is strangely unforthcoming.
Otherwise, it's a great idea, old arcade games like Pac-man are an excellent way to kill time on the bus, train, etc.
Gee, and I just thought he was being clever. I thought it was a Barton Fink reference. Too much movies for me!
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MAME - every electroinic product's killer app...
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Hirofyre
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I think any more, you can measure a device's horsepower, all you have to do is ask yourself "Will it run MAME?" First it was PC/Mac/LINUX/BeOS, then it was Dreamcast/GBA/etc. Next came digital cameras, now cel phones. You can almost measure the advancement of a platform purely by when it will run MAME.
Games for mobile phones
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FlynnMP3
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I agree that the current market is going to try and put games on phones. But I ask you, WHY? - other than the obvious "this is a new way to fleece the customers".
I am an avid gamer, but I cannot not even imagine playing a quality game on a phone. Reasons:
1) Note I said quality. No, this doesn't mean the latest and greatest graphics or AI. The old arcade games almost fill the bill, but my game tastes have progressed beyond "Galaga", "Tempest", and "Asteroids". 2) Even if there is a good game I might want to play on a mobile phone, how long do you think I could actually play it? Battery life in mobile phones is pretty pathetic.
Sony is putting out a version of Everquest for a mobile phone. It is still in the proposed state, but they are already hyping it. Hell, the protocol for the game doesn't even exist yet, it's still being actively developed.
I realize that the marketing will target a much younger consumer than codgy old me, but there are still lots of hurdles before the gaming industry can enter the mobile phone industry with style.
The app is written in C. I wonder about the wisdom about an app that is compiled to a single phone. Especially a phone that has not even been released
Well although I use Java for phone games, I can see that C would be a better bet for this. (A) because it will run faster on the relatively slow processor, and (B) because MAME is written in C already, so it would need to be completely rewritten for Java, rather than ported with most of the existing code unchanged!!
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What we need now is to establish a pay-service for downloading games for eMAME so bored phone owners can peruse a selection of games, buy one, download it and use it immediately.
What do you think, $0.75 per download?
That what was all this school was for... to teach us how to solve our own problems. -- janeowit
Or is this video-games-over the phone thing the geekiest thing you have ever seen?
What the hell is the matter with us? GET AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER ONCE IN A WHILE.
And I say this as a primordial geek from back before there was dirt. (The 70s)
It's Christmas everyday with BitTorrent.
"using a cell phone is no excu....did you say Pac Man? sweet!..."
Another reason why palm and WinCE are on their way out. This what its all about: "convergence".
Ever since getting the P800's cheper brother, the T68i, I've never looked back. Now I no longer have to carry around my palm pilot and keep my appointments and contacts on a tiny, tiny device.
or is the one thing worse than a train full of mobile phones ringing is a train full of mobile phones on full volume on which asteriods/pacman/crappy 80's game being played? Beep , beep-beep, beep, beep-beep-beep AAAAARRRRGGGHH.
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This sig is inoffensive.
Now you can simultaneously wreck in the game and in the car. Weeeoooooh!
I think $0.25 just like it used to be: nostalgic price for a nostalgic game. Yeah, there was inflation, but there's also Moore's law (meaning today's arcade games are much more sophisticated, even if they're not better for it).
You know, it's somewhat sad to think of right now, but we will probably see cell phones with nVidia chipsets rivaling our currently mid/high range graphics cards in the next five years.
Hopefully not too soon, mind you, but as we integrate more functions into a cell phone, we will probably find a few of them used as a video-conferencing device (use your headset and set/hold the phone in front of you) as well as representational 3D models of urban areas for the ultra-expensive GPS navigation systems.
PDA's will get there sooner, and PocketPC computers should be there any time now (all that advanced business modeling...) - wouldn't it be interesting to be an architect oe engineer and take fully editable designs with you in your pocket?
Maybe I'm just crazy.
That what was all this school was for... to teach us how to solve our own problems. -- janeowit
This is probably the exact reason why Orange's MS Smartphones will only run 'signed' applications - ie you must pay Orange/MS before your app will run on their smartphones. The telecoms operator can then lock-out apps (such as this) which could eat into their profit margin. Downloadable (pay-per-play) mobile games are allegedly going to be next years big thing in the mobile world.
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This sig is inoffensive.
Otherwise, it's a great idea, old arcade games like Pac-man are an excellent way to kill time on the bus, train, etc.
Math isn't my strong suit, but I'm pretty sure that's three things...
I think any more, you can measure a device's horsepower, all you have to do is ask yourself "Will it run MAME?" First it was PC/Mac/LINUX/BeOS, then it was Dreamcast/GBA/etc. Next came digital cameras, now cel phones. You can almost measure the advancement of a platform purely by when it will run MAME.
I agree that the current market is going to try and put games on phones. But I ask you, WHY? - other than the obvious "this is a new way to fleece the customers".
I am an avid gamer, but I cannot not even imagine playing a quality game on a phone. Reasons:
1) Note I said quality. No, this doesn't mean the latest and greatest graphics or AI. The old arcade games almost fill the bill, but my game tastes have progressed beyond "Galaga", "Tempest", and "Asteroids".
2) Even if there is a good game I might want to play on a mobile phone, how long do you think I could actually play it? Battery life in mobile phones is pretty pathetic.
Sony is putting out a version of Everquest for a mobile phone. It is still in the proposed state, but they are already hyping it. Hell, the protocol for the game doesn't even exist yet, it's still being actively developed.
I realize that the marketing will target a much younger consumer than codgy old me, but there are still lots of hurdles before the gaming industry can enter the mobile phone industry with style.
-FlynnMP3
& tough if you don't
I suspect the guy at least has one for himself!
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The app is written in C. I wonder about the wisdom about an app that is compiled to a single phone. Especially a phone that has not even been released
Well although I use Java for phone games, I can see that C would be a better bet for this. (A) because it will run faster on the relatively slow processor, and (B) because MAME is written in C already, so it would need to be completely rewritten for Java, rather than ported with most of the existing code unchanged!!
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
Four hundred non-hackers need to comment as to "Why is this necessary?".
And the Ask Slashdot hasn't been properly mocked, we need some optical techs over there, please.
C'mon - we will NEVER catch up once the stories about all the christmas XP computers exploding start pouring in.
Someone go over to the Disney makes dinosaurs story and get them off their asses.
Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
Right now they are selling for $800 unlocked and imported. The dev edition is 1k with kit.
Price will be around $500 or so with activation.
Check http://www.expansys.com/ to find the latest phone stuff for sale.
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The phone is already out in a few selected countries and anyone can order the dev version + kit right now.
You can expect it to hit the UK streets sometime mid January... and it does everything the motorola does.
The problem is this thing is going to be fricken expensive SIM unlocked, upwards of $700.
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