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Microsoft Reader Format Cracked

Anonymous Coward writes "Pocket PC Addict has a cool story about how some guy named Dan Jackson is distributing an unfortunately named program that will remove the security from Microsoft Reader ebooks. Once the security is removed, it then allows the book to be converted to html, text or any other format."

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  1. Familiar by djward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like Skylarov all over again...

    1. Re:Familiar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah... but this software is produced by a foreign national in his own country (UK) so US law couldn't possibly apply... just like Skylarov, ohh!

    2. Re:Familiar by Mac+Degger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah, but we live in a truly free county, where pot is legal-ish on the grounds that it's not a harmfull substance. Not all governments have that kind of common sence.
      Hell, on grounds of copyright, patent law and the odd belief that we should be able to do what we want with something when we've bought it (unless it happens to kill the neighbour or his cat), I think there's not a country on earth which has laws which enforce what the mayority thinks is right...wlecome to the real world, where justice is only blind to the laws being bought.

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    3. Re:Familiar by Huge+Pi+Removal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is something I do not understand: if a vast majority of the public believes it is OK to copy software or electronic content, how can it be there exist laws to prohibit copying? I mean most of us live in democratic countries, don't we?

      If absolutely every law was put to referendum, we'd essentially have mob rule. What "the majority" want and what's actually *good* for us/the country are not always the same thing. If it were, all you'd have to do in the UK is point at someone, shout "paedophile," and it would be legal to string them up from the nearest lamppost.

      The problem with the DMCA, etc, etc, is that it tries to solve a problem by brute force. A bit like trying to bomb other countries to get them to do what you want *ahem* :) In the UK, drink-driving laws were doing very little until, over several years of solid campaigning, drink-driving was made totally socially unacceptable, and the problem is now under control. Similarly, the problem with, say, CD copy-protection is that because the RIAA and the record industry as a whole are seen as being rich and nasty, people don't care about copying CDs to give to their friends or share over the internet. Hence, copy-protection is introduced, along with laws to stop you circumventing it, which stops *any* fair use at all.

      The problem is not that the majority want it but it's not happening. The problem is that there's nothing in place in corporate America (or most anywhere else) that makes people have a social conscience over screwing the companies (and hence, indirectly, those who depend on the companies' profits) around. Now there's a whole other debate about how we can change that, which I'm not going to get into here because I think 10 other people are going to do it further down...

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    4. Re: Familiar by Antity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      but this software is produced by a foreign national in his own country (UK)

      I'm not sure about that. Although he claims to have (re)written parts of the code,

      • His page is only about this very program AND
      • He writes:
        One of the people I met while MUD'ing suggested that since I live in the UK, I could act as an agent for programmers who wish to remain anonymous but still want to release their software. I thought this would be a good idea and so this website came into existence...

      IMHO this program originated in the US, was exported to the UK, changed, and (re)published.

      P.S.: Of what .ZIP on the web do you want to make a backup copy today? ;-)

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    5. Re:Familiar by GalionTheElf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What the greeks had can hardly be compared to what we have, our situation is very different to theirs.

      They didn't have tabloid media getting people in to a frenzy over, for example, paedophiles, where it even goes so far that people go and attack a paediatrician. This could happen with (almost) anything the red-tops decide to sink their teeth in to.

      It is true that what people want doesn't always equal what's good for the nation as a whole (and in the long-term individual citizens as well). If people were able to vote in anything they wanted, we'd have zero taxes and free money, but it wouldn't really work well for very long, or I at least wouldn't want to try.

      It is also true that the current system is not functioning as it should, it is still functioning and does a pretty good job of it and it's pretty much the best we have.

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    6. Re:Familiar by dukerobillard · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Democracy ...is, the majority decide what goes. Is this actually any different from "mob rule"?

      It isn't, which is why no modern western country has a government that should technically be called a "democracy." That's why they're all "representative democracies" with constitutions and strong legal systems.

      It's very easy to get the mob to do stupid things, like elect the Nazis. I'm against pure democracy.

    7. Re:Familiar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      yeah, but

      "American Democracy is asking for a cup of coffee and getting to choose between Coke or Pepsi."

    8. Re:Familiar by dukerobillard · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Logical falacy alert! Your example is incorrect: the Nazi party was never elected by a majority.

      Check it out...I didn't know that. They only got about the same percentage as the last few US Presidents. :-) Sorry 'bout that.

      But, although I picked a bad example, I still think it's easy to get the mob to support stupid things.

    9. Re:Familiar by susano_otter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It seems like your argument is that the only thing between us and Utopia is a corrupt government. Yet you pointed out that politicians are in it for themselves, rather than the good of the nation. Since eliminating the corrupt government would do nothing at all to eliminate the corrupt people in our society, it seems much more likely that the only thing between us and Utopia is ourselves, and that we will always fail to produce that Utopia with any form of governance (or non-governance).

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    10. Re:Familiar by jafac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, I think it's time to put this "democracy" monster to bed.

      If there were TRUE Democracy, things would be very different.
      For instance: Look what "the people" have chosen in the past several years in the commercial marketplace. These are the kinds of decisions "the rabble" would choose - apply the same thinking to politics, and it yeilds a hideously frightening prospect:

      Microsoft Windows, 95% Marketshare.
      Titanic - Best movie of all time.
      Backstreet Boyz - #1 musical group of the 20th century.
      Harry Potter - #1 work of literature of the 20th(21st?) century.
      Coke or Pepsi - your choice.
      Ford Escort - #1 selling car in America.
      GWBush - 88% Approval rating, Oct 2001.

      I came to accept this fact long ago. People are frickin idiots. True Democracy would be a very scary world.

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  2. Gratuitous Jay and Silent Bob Reference: by NeuroManson · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I am the CLIT commander! I control the CLIT!!!

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  3. Lots of fair usages for this by spiro_killglance · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and one important one is for search engines to
    be able to index ebook files.

  4. It is a good thing by lfourrier · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Microsoft Reader is so badly designed* that having the ability to compose a solution out of small efficient programs (the unix way) permit the user to manage a library, format text, and read it in the most convenient way.
    Of course, it doesn't help publishers to place restrictions on content, but we are speaking about reading ebooks, not preserving monopolies.

    * installing MR on a computer with a 1024x480 display ends with one page of text about 300 pixels wide: completly unusable.

  5. Maybe Microsoft released its own crack by stephanruby · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Companies have been known to release cracks of their own products to foster widespread adoption. The CEO of Macromedia almost admitted doing as much in an interview.

    Somehow, I doubt that Microsoft would have done such a thing, but you've got to admit, it's a sound business strategy. It gives a company all the benefits of having an open format, without making the commitment of an open format.

  6. Re:Code can be downloaded here by blibbleblobble · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "And obviously his homepage is http://members.lycos.co.uk/hostintheshell"

    Lycos, of course, being famous for their efforts to defend free speech on hosted websites.

    Anyone have a list of mirrors?

  7. Re:The Name by piranha(jpl) · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Parent:

    The guy didn't hand out the source (which is a shame, or else Linux folks could be reading eBooks right now).

    Article:

    Convert Lit or "Clit.exe" is a command line utility that can downgrade the DRM5 security to DRM1. From there, the formerly encrypted Lit book can be converted to HTML, text, or any other format.
    You mean to suggest there's a Microsoft Reader port to Linux?
  8. Re:lit was cracked a long time ago by ciscoeng · · Score: 2, Insightful


    And that's where Microsoft's Palladium will fit in.
    If they can encrypt and authenticate the entire path from bootup to what appears on your screen, this will be much less common.

  9. Greed by theolein · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This simply points out the reason ebooks have, for the most part, failed miserably: Greed. The whole Software maker paranoia about controlling everything you do on a computer will always backfire in their faces. Not being able to do what you want, how you want with items that you spent your hard earned money on will always piss consumers off.

  10. Well, isn't that. . . by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    exactly what eBook protection is, a stupid joke?

    I don't mean technically either, I mean in basic concept.

    I don't know about you, but I'm simply not going to participate. If I feel the need of an eBook I'll go to Project Gutenberg. I havn't yet read all of Dumas or Dickens, the worst of which is better than any of the crap being shilled by Oprah. Twain, O Henry, GBS, Thoreau, Kipling, Swift, Sir Richard Burton, Melville, Hume, London, Conrad. . . Jesus, the list goes on for miles, all free for the taking, distributing, printing, even selling if you want.

    I think it's somewhat ironic that one of the best uses of public domain eTexts is the ease with which specialty and art binders may now get source material.

    So be radical. Screw MS and Adobe. Download the entire PG opus and freely *pass it on to your friends.* Print the son of a bitch and hand it out on the street corners.

    Otherwise, if these people have their way, we'll have to start memorizing them and whispering them to our children quietly, in the dark, waiting for the "story police" to come and bust us.

    KFG

  11. Security for books is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is pointless to put lock in software for books anyway if the books are being released to the public. Books are just text (and maybe some pictures) and are easy to replicate. Ie, if I can read it I might as well type it in manually. It wouldnt cost much to do this in the third world. If it takes a week of work, it still would cost less than 5 dollars , for a few dollars more you could do spell checking and formatting too.

    Contrast this with music where it is next to impossible to replicate the work

    If you remember the whole thing abt US-europe copyright rules which happened in early 1900s where european books had no protection in the US and vice-versa, it might be actually possible to do this alsmost legally. Just send a mail to somebody in say Tanzania (Just rendomly picked a country in Africa, nothing else) with the relevant document and send him a check. he converts it and sends it to you. He proly breaks the rules, but figures US govt wont put effort in extraditing an ordinary citizen.

  12. Law prohibit by oliverthered · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would be true, except that most laws(if not all) prohibit activities, if the majority (or the vast >2/3's in most cases) believe that there is nothing wrong with xyz then it shouldn't be prohibited, are you saving society from it's self?

    A libertarian would say this is different from saying that if the majority believe something is wrong then it should be prohibited.

    I accasionally take drugs, and frequently forget that possession of drugs is prohibited, and yet, no-one has come to arrest me. Why?, because most people(everyone that's ever overheard/seen me), even though they may not believe that it's OK to take drugs, don't think that it's so wrong that I should be arrested. That is why the 'war on drugs' will never be won by the ummm..... who's fighting the war again.

    Simmialrly, lots of people download MP3's or have 'pirated' software, I've never known anyone who would be that concerned about 'personal' use of pirated materal, even if that person only ever user pirated material. This is another war that will never be won.

    Now if I were to walk down the street and hit someone with a baseball bat, the police would probably be called.

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  13. Re:It IS 404 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Try this mirror: http://mongfish.com/mirrors/clit/

    Just click on the picture to download!