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Professors vs. WiFi

murky.waters writes "The New York Times (free registration, profiling) has an article about the opposing views of teacher's demanding attention and students seeking distraction; the current trend toward wireless Internet access in the classroom has students surfing the web and checking their email from the backrow, while instructors are climbing up the ladder... to disconnect the Access Point." Makarand writes "University Wi-Fi networks are heavily impacting student campus life according to this article on NewsObserver.com. In addition to allowing them to keep working while not in their computer labs, the wireless networks allow them to keep in touch with their family, better organize time, complete coursework in shorter periods of time, collaborate with other students and bring computing power into classrooms not available before."

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  1. As an... by craenor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Instructor myself...I would just declare certain lecture times to be "computer's down". When I'm trying to get across a critical point, I would make people close their laptops, stop writing away on their notes and just listen to me.

    When I'm confident that they've gotten the point or the majority of them had, I would then hand out an addendum to their notes covering what we just discussed.

    This would be a commonplace event, happening most likely once per classroom day.

  2. It's catching by PaschalNee · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recently saw a sticker on a window in London (dentist's office I think) for http://www.dont-go-online-here.com/. Not much of a site but the fact that people are actually thinking about 'No Surfing' areas is significant.

  3. Re:So whats the role of the professor that you pay by Kombat · · Score: 4, Informative
    Profs are not there to spoonfeed you. The real world doesn't spoon feed you. They are there to offer up the info on a silver platter, but you still must make the effort to reach out and grab it.

    Colleges and universities don't owe you an education. They owe you access to information in a format optimal for learning. You still must actually do something to get it.

    Virtually all of the info you'd learn in university is available in libraries and on the internet. So why then do companies still prefer people with little pieces of paper? Because actions speak louder than words. Any basement-dwelling sociopathic geek can SAY they could learn how to calculate the Big O of various fibonnacci algorithms, but the paper proves that this person actually did learn what he was asked to learn. And that demonstrates that he could learn virtually anything else you ask him do. He's already demonstrated that he's a do-er, a go-getter. He's the one who actually participated in classes and made the effort to really understand the course material.

    And that doesn't just mean paying attention in class - that means actually putting in effort outside of the classroom.

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  4. Well at my school... by Tevye · · Score: 3, Informative
    Well at my school (RPI) we've got a similar setup, and in many of my classes I see lots of students on their laptops during class. It doesn't really matter that there's no real reason they'd need it for the class, they've still got it out. What I've seen on people's screens includes:

    supplementary material to the lecture (some reference PDF of quick notes, very handy if you forget some bit of C code, et al.),

    the lecture notes themselves (usually power point, sometimes PDF or HTML),

    work being done (it's nice to be able to write your code while the stuff is still fresh in your mind),

    Slashdot (imagine that)

    BattleTech armor guidelines (I guess it was more interesting than NP completeness)

    These are among other things. I do think it's nice to have instance reference, and to be able to do homework during class if a lecture isn't particularly interesting or engaging.

    That having been said, I don't bring a laptop. I don't find that any of those things need to be done during class, and that I can live without them until lectures and labs are done for the day. Not just that, but laptops can get a bit heavy after carrying the between a few classes. At least, in addition to other notebooks and texts.

    I might add that I don't take notes on my laptop either. I tried a few times, and while maybe some of you have had a different experience, I find taking notes on a laptop is very limiting. I draw lots of little diagrams and figures in my notes which is difficult to do quickly in most text editors.

    On the other hand, there is something to be said for laptops and wireless devices. Since we all are required to have laptops, labs are much cheaper. Rather than lots of desktop machines in a dedicated room, a few tables and chairs with CAT5 can be a fully functioning lab. This has its own problems (IM, Email, etc) but the room can be a small lecture room, or non-computer based class when the computer lab is done. This also worked in my high school, where laptops were required as well. Even for non-computer classes (e.g. English Lit) this had advantages, like being able to read free texts online without needing any paper copies, etc. It's a nice convenience.

    With wireless all of this becomes even easier, and any room is a connected room. No longer is the CAT5 needed, or the desktop machine. It's a great advance in convenience.

    Even after all that, I still try to take my computer labs in the actual labs with big desktop machines or terminals; I like the big screens and full keyboards and looking slightly up to the monitor rather than down. I still don't bring my laptop to class because I can take notes just fine on paper, if not better, and most things I'd need a computer for can wait until I'm done with class.

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  5. You CAN use WiFi alongside live discussions ... by ShabbyDuck · · Score: 2, Informative
    Clay Shirky reports on using WiFi to support a 30-people brainstorm session. They used chat as a way to allow side conversations -- on topic, of course! -- and commenting without disrupting the live conversation. It may not always be OK for classroom use, but it is worth checking.

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