If the search engine is simply an index of articles, authors, subjects, photographers, then I would think that the product doesn't seem to be a new one.
The article stated that the photographers would have a case if their work was removed from context. It would seem to me that if their articles were simply PDF'd there'd be no problem. However, what if the search engine allows you to search for individual components of articles.
You might have a much different idea of a photographer's work if you can't see the context.For a (somewhat exaggerated, and stretched) example, let's assume you search for 'horse beating' (I'm not sure why you would, but like I said, it's a stretched example). You might find images of some ruffians beating someone's horse as an act of crime (some sort of oppresive government punishing political dissidents). You also might find images sailors beating a mock horse (they might do this when their debt was paid off). Both might look like very violent images from afar, particularly depending on size, angle, etc. One is a rather startling image, the other is a celebration.
Without context you lose a lot of this information, and your impression of what sort of images a photographer notices might change an awful lot. It might be just a matter of photographers trying to keep their work in context.
Another example is, do you call a particular person "African American," "black," or the N word? They all have vastly different implied meanings, but they all refer to the same race. (Even I refuse to say the latter because I don't have sufficient karma to burn.:))
Well now, a lot of it depends on whether I'm talking about race in America or out of it. African American really can't be talking about race (or at least shouldn't be, I realize that that's how it's used) because it doesn't say a thing about blacks in any other country than America. I'm pretty sure that if I took a trip to Africa, for instance, I don't think that a majority of people there would not be African American, though they would likely be black. That's not the only thing lacking in the term African American though either. How many white Africans who move to America will be called African Americans? Even if they try, how many would be taken seriously? 'African American' has some problems in that it's really centered with Americans in mind, it assumes that Africans are always black (assuming it's supposed to be a term of race, which it seems to be), it doesn't translate to black Europeans or white Africans, it just doesn't really work.
So, what do you all in the rest of the world use? Foreigners never seem to mind calling me white, so I wonder if they've settled on any other terms?
Here at RPI, the ACM (at least when I was a freshman) would release RedHat CDs that they'd made for the IBM model laptops that you could get through the school. Since so many students had the school model laptop, these allowed the students to have a Linux that they already knew would work on the hardware, and was designed to remove any difficulties that might arise with it. Not an educational distro, per se, but of course, Maple and all those other titles can be run remotely over X, so the point of
an educational distro would be a little odd.
If I leave the my keys in my car and the door unlocked, does that mean that the person who steals my car is not guilty? The problem with notion of "reasonable" deterrence is what constitutes that? If I left my keys in the car, but locked the doors is that reasonable deterrence versus if instead I left the doors unlocked, but removed the keys? What if I left my locked car with no keys inside in a "bad" neighborhood or I own a car that is a prime target for thieves?
You're right in that stealing is stealing. But prosecution is not just prosecution. Perhaps the cars are a bad example, so let's look at houses. If you leave your house unlocked and someone enters, that's unlawful entry. If you lock your house and someone enters, that's breaking and entering which will impose a stiffer fine. There is a difference, and laws like these help to recognize them. Breaking into a network is still illegal. Wandering into it won't necessarily be illegal anymore, even though it's unauthorized (did they explicitly invite you in? it's unathorized)
A others have mentioned, NH is a nice place to live. No state income tax, no sales tax.. It is a nice place to be.
I'm seeing a lot of "the idea is good but...", but I do think it's a good idea. I read the analogy of walking into someone's house if it's unlocked and taking their food, etc, but I don't think that's the right analogy.
A better one, (which also applies in NH) is that if you're hunting in the woods, you can't be prosecuted for trespassing unless it posted "No Trespassing" or the owner comes along and tells you to leave. This keeps people who are in the woods and might not have a convenient parcel map from the town from being prosecuted because they wandered into an adjacent lot. Do note that this is not the same as walking into land that is expected to be private, i.e. a house or an office building (during non-business hours).
Just my input.
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Poster 1: and if the teacher has an accent when teaching this garbage like one of my teachers from india had, or a greek accent, forget it, I'm not even going to bother wasting my time trying to figure out what they are saying
Poster 2; Ah, I see, you're a racist. That explains a lot of your comments.
I think that there's more to be said for this than acusing the person of being racist. (Assuimg the problem isn't with Indians or Greeks in particular, and that it was a genuine "like one of my teacher..." where like refers to "hard to understand".
I've also had professors from Greece and India, both of whom were very competent and educated. That aside, it could be very difficult at times to understand what they were saying. Between one pronouncing the letter H 'hetch' and hearing about 'semicolumns' from the other (that was actually a typing problem, not speech) it could be quite difficult to follow them. This was particularly a problem when new terminology nis being introduced and you try to discuss it with someone else, and they don't know what you're talking about ("Oh! Is that what you meant, I couldn't tell what you were saying" "Sorry, I thought that's how it was pronounced...")
As this relates to the article and issue at hand, if the professor-student communication is lacking, as it could (and would?) be if a student can't understand a teacher, the student will become inattentive and then will find distraction. Lots of students without wireless access don't pay attention and then find something else to do if they can't understand their teachers.
I suppose the fellow at hand could be racist, but I don't think it's a neccessity based on what we've seen.
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<blockquote>and if the teacher has an accent when teaching this garbage like one of my teachers from india had, or a greek accent, forget it, I'm not even going to bother wasting my time trying to figure out what they are saying
Ah, I see, you're a racist. That explains a lot of your comments. </blockquote>
Well at my school (RPI) we've got a similar setup, and in many of my classes I see lots of students on their laptops during class. It doesn't really matter that there's no real reason they'd need it for the class, they've still got it out. What I've seen on people's screens includes:
supplementary material to the lecture (some reference PDF of quick notes, very handy if you forget some bit of C code, et al.),
the lecture notes themselves (usually power point, sometimes PDF or HTML),
work being done (it's nice to be able to write your code while the stuff is still fresh in your mind),
Slashdot (imagine that)
BattleTech armor guidelines (I guess it was more interesting than NP completeness)
These are among other things. I do think it's nice to have instance reference, and to be able to do homework during class if a lecture isn't particularly interesting or engaging.
That having been said, I don't bring a laptop. I don't find that any of those things need to be done during class, and that I can live without them until lectures and labs are done for the day. Not just that, but laptops can get a bit heavy after carrying the between a few classes. At least, in addition to other notebooks and texts.
I might add that I don't take notes on my laptop either. I tried a few times, and while maybe some of you have had a different experience, I find taking notes on a laptop is very limiting. I draw lots of little diagrams and figures in my notes which is difficult to do quickly in most text editors.
On the other hand, there is something to be said for laptops and wireless devices. Since we all are required to have laptops, labs are much cheaper. Rather than lots of desktop machines in a dedicated room, a few tables and chairs with CAT5 can be a fully functioning lab. This has its own problems (IM, Email, etc) but the room can be a small lecture room, or non-computer based class when the computer lab is done. This also worked in my high school, where laptops were required as well. Even for non-computer classes (e.g. English Lit) this had advantages, like being able to read free texts online without needing any paper copies, etc. It's a nice convenience.
With wireless all of this becomes even easier, and any room is a connected room. No longer is the CAT5 needed, or the desktop machine. It's a great advance in convenience.
Even after all that, I still try to take my computer labs in the actual labs with big desktop machines or terminals; I like the big screens and full keyboards and looking slightly up to the monitor rather than down. I still don't bring my laptop to class because I can take notes just fine on paper, if not better, and most things I'd need a computer for can wait until I'm done with class.
We've got it in the arcade room. I haven't played it, but aside from the classics,
Megaman,etc, it looks like there's a LEGO guy. Anyone know whether that's in Marvel or Capcom?
I studied Latin for four years of high school, and am disappointed that my college doesn't offer anything in the area. Nonetheless, my understanding of English grammar grew phenomenally. I'm not convinced that this might not have been due to the fact that modern English classes don't teach grammar anymore.
Latin not only gave me a clearer sense of how language and grammar in general, but a method of thinking not present in modern English. The whole concept of cases and conjugation can be relatively new to today's students.
The reading [and writing] of Latin requires a systematic mental process much akin to writing code, I've found. Much like Latin, code can often have blocks in which the order of bits don't matter much, but there are good and reasonable conventions which prevail. Latin is like this, and so is good code. I'm still a student, so I can't be sure of work experience, but Latin has increased my general academic ability greatly, and code and logic tremendously.
Of course, there are other benfits. Like that scene in Life of Brian (which we actually convinced our teacher to show in class) makes much more sense to a Latin student. Though, domum doesn't take a locative, it has a locative. *sigh* They did do pretty well though.
Gateway used to be great. Way back, about 9-10 years ago, we bought a 386 from them, that, as their standard was at that point, came with lifetime, yes, till you die, tech support. As I recall, this didn't come at an extra cost, and it certainly wasn't something for which we had to pay each year.
But, even better than that, we got another from them, five or six years down the road. Unfortunatley this one didn't come with the same great service agreement. But, when we called up on account of a failed CDROM drive, becase of our older agreement, they extended the free service. They also shipped out the new drive very quickly. _And_ didn't even request the old one back. They were a bit more demanding when we had a problem with the monitor; they did ask for that back. However, the replacement was a nice change, they sort of 'upgraded' us from a 15" to a 17".
Maybe Gateway is starting to fall behind, but it wasn't always so.
And on that note about having parts fail, when I was in a high school which required laptops [and as provided by them] their last choice while I was there was this Acer notebook. My understanding was that the computer was a nice one, better than most previous models they'd chosen, but the LCD screens had a horrible tendency to crack. I worked with the school's IT/Support dept, and we saw more of "my screen has cracks in it" than anything else. Sad thing was, it's not hard to prevent, or be cautious, but point is, hardware problems aren't always the manufacturer's fault.
When I was in a boarding high school in Massachusetts, taking driver's ed., there was no problem with any of us getting a license in Mass. and then going back to our home states. I lived in New Hampshire at the time, so I ended up getting my license at home anyhow, but as far as I know, can't Connecticut drivers can get licenses in other states? You're not supposed to register the car outside of your residence, but I think it's alright with the actual license.
I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but I think it would be permissible to get the license in another state. It's what I might try anyways, if I lived in CT.
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I've also seen on a woodcut plaque,
"Lack of money is the root of all evil."
If the search engine is simply an index of articles, authors, subjects, photographers, then I would think that the product doesn't seem to be a new one.
The article stated that the photographers would have a case if their work was removed from context. It would seem to me that if their articles were simply PDF'd there'd be no problem. However, what if the search engine allows you to search for individual components of articles.
You might have a much different idea of a photographer's work if you can't see the context.For a (somewhat exaggerated, and stretched) example, let's assume you search for 'horse beating' (I'm not sure why you would, but like I said, it's a stretched example). You might find images of some ruffians beating someone's horse as an act of crime (some sort of oppresive government punishing political dissidents). You also might find images sailors beating a mock horse (they might do this when their debt was paid off). Both might look like very violent images from afar, particularly depending on size, angle, etc. One is a rather startling image, the other is a celebration.
Without context you lose a lot of this information, and your impression of what sort of images a photographer notices might change an awful lot. It might be just a matter of photographers trying to keep their work in context.
fifteen bucks for a can
put that spray in your hand
if that money doesn't show
then you owe me owe me oh,
my jungle love
Another example is, do you call a particular person "African American," "black," or the N word? They all have vastly different implied meanings, but they all refer to the same race. (Even I refuse to say the latter because I don't have sufficient karma to burn. :))
Well now, a lot of it depends on whether I'm talking about race in America or out of it. African American really can't be talking about race (or at least shouldn't be, I realize that that's how it's used) because it doesn't say a thing about blacks in any other country than America. I'm pretty sure that if I took a trip to Africa, for instance, I don't think that a majority of people there would not be African American, though they would likely be black. That's not the only thing lacking in the term African American though either. How many white Africans who move to America will be called African Americans? Even if they try, how many would be taken seriously? 'African American' has some problems in that it's really centered with Americans in mind, it assumes that Africans are always black (assuming it's supposed to be a term of race, which it seems to be), it doesn't translate to black Europeans or white Africans, it just doesn't really work.
So, what do you all in the rest of the world use? Foreigners never seem to mind calling me white, so I wonder if they've settled on any other terms?
Here at RPI, the ACM (at least when I was a freshman) would release RedHat CDs that they'd made for the IBM model laptops that you could get through the school. Since so many students had the school model laptop, these allowed the students to have a Linux that they already knew would work on the hardware, and was designed to remove any difficulties that might arise with it. Not an educational distro, per se, but of course, Maple and all those other titles can be run remotely over X, so the point of an educational distro would be a little odd.
If I leave the my keys in my car and the door unlocked, does that mean that the person who steals my car is not guilty? The problem with notion of "reasonable" deterrence is what constitutes that? If I left my keys in the car, but locked the doors is that reasonable deterrence versus if instead I left the doors unlocked, but removed the keys? What if I left my locked car with no keys inside in a "bad" neighborhood or I own a car that is a prime target for thieves?
You're right in that stealing is stealing. But prosecution is not just prosecution. Perhaps the cars are a bad example, so let's look at houses. If you leave your house unlocked and someone enters, that's unlawful entry. If you lock your house and someone enters, that's breaking and entering which will impose a stiffer fine. There is a difference, and laws like these help to recognize them. Breaking into a network is still illegal. Wandering into it won't necessarily be illegal anymore, even though it's unauthorized (did they explicitly invite you in? it's unathorized)
A others have mentioned, NH is a nice place to live. No state income tax, no sales tax.. It is a nice place to be.
I'm seeing a lot of "the idea is good but...", but I do think it's a good idea. I read the analogy of walking into someone's house if it's unlocked and taking their food, etc, but I don't think that's the right analogy.
A better one, (which also applies in NH) is that if you're hunting in the woods, you can't be prosecuted for trespassing unless it posted "No Trespassing" or the owner comes along and tells you to leave. This keeps people who are in the woods and might not have a convenient parcel map from the town from being prosecuted because they wandered into an adjacent lot. Do note that this is not the same as walking into land that is expected to be private, i.e. a house or an office building (during non-business hours).
Just my input.
Live Free Or Die.
Poster 2; Ah, I see, you're a racist. That explains a lot of your comments.
I think that there's more to be said for this than acusing the person of being racist. (Assuimg the problem isn't with Indians or Greeks in particular, and that it was a genuine "like one of my teacher..." where like refers to "hard to understand".
I've also had professors from Greece and India, both of whom were very competent and educated. That aside, it could be very difficult at times to understand what they were saying. Between one pronouncing the letter H 'hetch' and hearing about 'semicolumns' from the other (that was actually a typing problem, not speech) it could be quite difficult to follow them. This was particularly a problem when new terminology nis being introduced and you try to discuss it with someone else, and they don't know what you're talking about ("Oh! Is that what you meant, I couldn't tell what you were saying" "Sorry, I thought that's how it was pronounced...")
As this relates to the article and issue at hand, if the professor-student communication is lacking, as it could (and would?) be if a student can't understand a teacher, the student will become inattentive and then will find distraction. Lots of students without wireless access don't pay attention and then find something else to do if they can't understand their teachers.
I suppose the fellow at hand could be racist, but I don't think it's a neccessity based on what we've seen.
<blockquote>and if the teacher has an accent when teaching this garbage like one of my teachers from india had, or a greek accent, forget it, I'm not even going to bother wasting my time trying to figure out what they are saying
Ah, I see, you're a racist. That explains a lot of your comments.
</blockquote>
supplementary material to the lecture (some reference PDF of quick notes, very handy if you forget some bit of C code, et al.),
the lecture notes themselves (usually power point, sometimes PDF or HTML),
work being done (it's nice to be able to write your code while the stuff is still fresh in your mind),
Slashdot (imagine that)
BattleTech armor guidelines (I guess it was more interesting than NP completeness)
These are among other things. I do think it's nice to have instance reference, and to be able to do homework during class if a lecture isn't particularly interesting or engaging.
That having been said, I don't bring a laptop. I don't find that any of those things need to be done during class, and that I can live without them until lectures and labs are done for the day. Not just that, but laptops can get a bit heavy after carrying the between a few classes. At least, in addition to other notebooks and texts.
I might add that I don't take notes on my laptop either. I tried a few times, and while maybe some of you have had a different experience, I find taking notes on a laptop is very limiting. I draw lots of little diagrams and figures in my notes which is difficult to do quickly in most text editors.
On the other hand, there is something to be said for laptops and wireless devices. Since we all are required to have laptops, labs are much cheaper. Rather than lots of desktop machines in a dedicated room, a few tables and chairs with CAT5 can be a fully functioning lab. This has its own problems (IM, Email, etc) but the room can be a small lecture room, or non-computer based class when the computer lab is done. This also worked in my high school, where laptops were required as well. Even for non-computer classes (e.g. English Lit) this had advantages, like being able to read free texts online without needing any paper copies, etc. It's a nice convenience.
With wireless all of this becomes even easier, and any room is a connected room. No longer is the CAT5 needed, or the desktop machine. It's a great advance in convenience.
Even after all that, I still try to take my computer labs in the actual labs with big desktop machines or terminals; I like the big screens and full keyboards and looking slightly up to the monitor rather than down. I still don't bring my laptop to class because I can take notes just fine on paper, if not better, and most things I'd need a computer for can wait until I'm done with class.
Yep, it's a dupe...
oh.. that's the point...
We've got it in the arcade room. I haven't played it, but aside from the classics,
Megaman,etc, it looks like there's a LEGO guy. Anyone know whether that's in Marvel or Capcom?
I studied Latin for four years of high school, and am disappointed that my college doesn't offer anything in the area. Nonetheless, my understanding of English grammar grew phenomenally. I'm not convinced that this might not have been due to the fact that modern English classes don't teach grammar anymore.
Latin not only gave me a clearer sense of how language and grammar in general, but a method of thinking not present in modern English. The whole concept of cases and conjugation can be relatively new to today's students.
The reading [and writing] of Latin requires a systematic mental process much akin to writing code, I've found. Much like Latin, code can often have blocks in which the order of bits don't matter much, but there are good and reasonable conventions which prevail. Latin is like this, and so is good code. I'm still a student, so I can't be sure of work experience, but Latin has increased my general academic ability greatly, and code and logic tremendously.
Of course, there are other benfits. Like that scene in Life of Brian (which we actually convinced our teacher to show in class) makes much more sense to a Latin student. Though, domum doesn't take a locative, it has a locative. *sigh* They did do pretty well though.
-Tevye
Gateway used to be great. Way back, about 9-10 years ago, we bought a 386 from them, that, as their standard was at that point, came with lifetime, yes, till you die, tech support. As I recall, this didn't come at an extra cost, and it certainly wasn't something for which we had to pay each year.
But, even better than that, we got another from them, five or six years down the road. Unfortunatley this one didn't come with the same great service agreement. But, when we called up on account of a failed CDROM drive, becase of our older agreement, they extended the free service. They also shipped out the new drive very quickly. _And_ didn't even request the old one back. They were a bit more demanding when we had a problem with the monitor; they did ask for that back. However, the replacement was a nice change, they sort of 'upgraded' us from a 15" to a 17".
Maybe Gateway is starting to fall behind, but it wasn't always so.
And on that note about having parts fail, when I was in a high school which required laptops [and as provided by them] their last choice while I was there was this Acer notebook. My understanding was that the computer was a nice one, better than most previous models they'd chosen, but the LCD screens had a horrible tendency to crack. I worked with the school's IT/Support dept, and we saw more of "my screen has cracks in it" than anything else. Sad thing was, it's not hard to prevent, or be cautious, but point is, hardware problems aren't always the manufacturer's fault.
Tevye
When I was in a boarding high school in Massachusetts, taking driver's ed., there was no problem with any of us getting a license in Mass. and then going back to our home states. I lived in New Hampshire at the time, so I ended up getting my license at home anyhow, but as far as I know, can't Connecticut drivers can get licenses in other states? You're not supposed to register the car outside of your residence, but I think it's alright with the actual license.
I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but I think it would be permissible to get the license in another state. It's what I might try anyways, if I lived in CT.