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Uncle Tungsten

Were you the eccentric cousin with a chemistry set? Peter Kukla contributes the review below of Oliver Sack's Uncle Tungsten, which sounds like a fun read about growing up curious about chemicals. (Don't worry -- the book sneaks in lots of information about the periodic table and its contents, besides.) For certain families, the science-centric childhood Sacks describes may seem perfectly ordinary. For others, it may give a glimpse into what your kids could learn, given some curiosity and the right environment. Uncle Tungsten: Memories of a Chemical Boyhood author Oliver Sacks pages 320 publisher Vintage Books rating 8 reviewer Peter Kukla ISBN 0375704043 summary Interesting history of the author's childhood, and of chemistry in general.

Oliver Sacks is a noted neurologist, and author of a number of books for popular audiences, including The Man Who Mistook his Wife for a Hat. I came across Uncle Tungsten: Memories of a Chemical Boyhood while browsing through a bookstore a few months ago, and decided to give it a read.

Uncle Tungsten is billed as "Memories of a Chemical Boyhood" in the title, but it's actually far more than a simple biography of his childhood. The real focus of the book is trifold: the influence of chemistry upon his early life and his early chemistry experiments and researches into chemistry, the stories behind the discoveries of the elements comprising the periodic table and of the discovery of the periodic table itself, and the non-chemical aspects of his childhood.

We learn early on that Sacks' family was chock-full of chemists (the title of the book refers to an uncle whose factory produced light bulbs using tungsten filaments), physicists, and doctors (including both of his parents). As a result, he had access to volumes of information about chemistry and access to chemicals of every sort, not to mention a family that was quite happy to indulge his interests. He made good use of these resources, ultimately gaining his own chemistry lab at home (complete with fume cupboard) where he experimented with a little of everything in an attempt to find out as much as possible about the chemical world.

His stories about how various elements had been isolated are given color by his own experiences with these same elements as a child. When he reaches the radioactive elements, for example, he illustrates some of the properties of uranium by describing his experiments with a chunk of uranium ore given to him by one of his uncles! Other experiments include dropping sodium (which is highly reactive with water) into a pond in a nearby park to watch it burn, bleaching red roses by holding them over burning sulphur, and using a spectroscope to examine the absorption Sacks' childhood experiments, however, are only part of the picture. Tales of his childhood are frequently interrupted by stories about the pioneers of chemistry (such as the Curies, Mendeleev, and Humphry Davy) who identified and isolated the various elements. As he discusses the discoveries of the elements, he includes descriptions of those researchers who ferreted out these elements, the puzzles they encountered during their work, and the hazards they faced when working with dangerous substances.

The book does include "non-chemical memories," too. Although chemistry was his first love, Sacks got the opportunity (and, with physician parents, the encouragement) to dissect worms, octopi, and even human cadavers! He also shares his wartime memories of growing up as a child during the blitz and being sent away from home to live in a boarding school for his own safety, although he ultimately returned home before the war was over. Often, however, the non-chemical memories are offered as background for the rest of the story.

I enjoyed this book very much, even though the extent of my chemistry background consists of getting a "C-" in high-school chemistry. My father, a design engineer who worked for many years in a chemical engineering department at a university, also enjoyed it. Based on these two opinions, at least, I can conclude that the book probably would appeal to a fairly wide geek-audience.

More can be discovered about the author at www.oliversacks.com

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119 comments

  1. Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I was given this book at Xmas, and couldn't put it down. Made me quite unpopular, but really worth it........

  2. Remember The Anti-Drug Ads: +4, Patriotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you teach chemistry to children, you could be helping terrorists, never mind the profiteering of the Thief-In-Chief

    Cheers,
    W00t

    1. Re:Remember The Anti-Drug Ads: +4, Patriotic by EyeSavedLatin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, this is a valid point. Oliver Sacks is a acquantence of my father, and he's frequently said that he would go to the chemical store and buy things that were very dangerous and today are restricted. He views himself as having been lucky to be able to experiment the way he did. He is also a wonderful speaker, practically the definition of the absent-minded-professor and all around a nice guy. He also wrote Awakenings, which was made into this movie.

  3. hmmm by mschoolbus · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...which sounds like a fun read about growing up curious about chemicals.

    Sounds like I would really like this...

    1. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its actually a pretty decent book.

      All your base are belong to us

    2. Re:hmmm by mschoolbus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yes, I believe it would be... I was just trying to make a joke about the word 'chemicals' referring to drugs, but i guess no one took it the way i meant it... nevermind :-(

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  5. Chemistry is fun-damental by Vietomatic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I majored in Chemistry and Biochemistry and I feel that Chemistry is the foundation of practical science. Everything that we interact with is matter, and this matter follows fundamental rules of chemistry. This includes computers and the transmission of digital information.

    Without a sound knowledge of chemistry, we would still be living in the middle ages and still be trying to convert lead into gold.

    1. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by Shant3030 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >I majored in Chemistry and Biochemistry and I feel that Chemistry is the foundation of practical science. Everything that we interact with is matter, and this matter follows fundamental rules of chemistry. This includes computers and the transmission of digital information.

      I disagree. I feel that physics is the foundation of practical science. Without a knowledge of how and why things work, we would have never been able to advance modern civilization.

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    2. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by anarchima · · Score: 1

      I don't think either of the above comments could be justified rationally. I could boldly claim that BIOLOGY is the foundation of practical science, because where would we be if we didn't understand the way our bodies work, plants respire...OH WAIT! We'd be more or less fine (just a little less healthy perhaps)...

    3. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by MrGeetee · · Score: 1
      And none of the above could be studied without Mathematics.

      Ok, so calling Mathematics a physical science might be stretching things a little... But since when did such pedantry matter on /.?

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    4. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by Evil-G · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maths (in my opinion) is a science - the science of numbers. However, it could be debated whether or not this makes it a "true" science.

    5. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And *I* disagree with all of you. Obviously it is the study of electricity that forms the base of all scientific progress.

      I can't prove why this is so, but had to get my two cents in for the EE's, even though we aren't pure science. Leave that to the nuclear physicists (*hint hint*).

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    6. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by Bohnanza · · Score: 1
      Quite true, and through the ages Chemistry has been a respected as well as supremely practical science. It is only in the last few decades that the word "chemical" has come with evil connotations. This is of course due to the acts of greedy and careless corporations.

      I don't know whether to laugh or cry when some tree-hugger offers me an "herbal remedy" that's free of those nasty "chemicals". I try to explain that the herbs are chock FULL of chemicals, and I'd like to know what they ARE before I eat them...but they just don't understand.

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    7. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abosulutely
      Chemistry is an abstraction of Physics.

    8. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      Which leads us all to the ultimate destination: Philosophy.

      There was no physics until there was Meta-physics. The Greeks thought the world was made up of Atoms thousands of years before Newton came up with Mechanical Laws. That was way before the time of quantum physics...

      Sitting around thinking is a fabulous thing to do, if you are a good thinker.

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    9. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by reverseengineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hmmm. Even as a biochem major, I don't think I'd agree that chemistry is the fundamental science- I have no problem with the physicists claiming that one, actually. Well, really, I'd like to see the mathematicians fight it out with the physicists over this issue. Anyway, I've always liked the term "the central science" for chemistry. Sitting in between physics and biology gives chemistry a broad spectrum of topics to work with. Last semester I took physical chemistry and biochem classes concurrently, and it was fascinating to study similar chemical reactions from two wildly different perspectives- using molecular orbital theory to explain how and why a reaction takes place, for example, and then seeing a similar reaction pop up in biochem, and studying its role in a metabolic pathway.

      Frankly, the lines between the sciences get blurry in many places. The example that the parent poster gave with computers is a perfect case in point. The semiconductors used in computers can be looked at from a chemical perspective- dopant agents and valence shells and whatnot- or from a physical basis- free electrons and holes and energy gaps and such. Chemistry traditionally describes the actions of electrons in materials, since such behavior is the basis for chemical bonding- but the movements of electrons can also be considered in terms of electromagnetic and even quantum mechanical effects, which are traditionally in the domain of der physik. I know people in research groups who call themselves chemists, and others who consider themselves to be physicists, but they study the same things, and use many of the same tools- and then there are people who also research in the same areas, but call it materials science. There are gray areas on the other end of the spectrum, too. I consider myself to be a biochem major, but how does biochemistry differ from molecular biology (which is a separate major offered here)? There is also considerable overlap with organic chemistry- my o chem prof from last year, for instance, studies how various RNAs fold. You can look at something like evolution from a biochemical standpoint- genes, operons, mutations, etc, or from a biological standpoint- equilibria, populations, selection.

      This has led to all sorts of interesting combinations of disciplines with chemistry- my roommate is part of a research group that uses computer models (with Linux!) to study protein folding. Is this computational physical biochemistry? Or chemical computational biophysics?

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    10. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

      a joke:

      a physicist, a priest and a computer scientist were arguing about which one of their professions was the more fundamental field of knowledge

      the physicist said his profession explained how the universe worked

      the priest said his god created the universe out of chaos

      and the computer scientist laid claim to the chaos ;-)

      as an aside, we finally did convert lead into gold in the 1950s. albeit only a few atoms, but some nuclear physicists did it anyways on a lark. it would be interesting to write a book tracing the ancient origins of the desire to convert lead into gold, through alchemy, through chemistry, through physics... to success ;-P

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    11. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by Jerf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, computer science is fundamental! Reality is just computation on the lowest level! That's why quantum computers are so cool, we can harness this computation in the most direct manner possible! Didn't you read "A New Kind of Science"?*

      "Every significant scientific discipline will find a way to cast itself as the most fundamental discipline in the universe." Somebody-or-other's rule, not mine. Even the English/Sociology folks got into the game with Post-Modernism.

      *: Actually I haven't.

    12. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a childhood book (was it "The Phantom Tollbooth"?) that has two wizards (If I remember clearly) arguing over which was more important - letters or numbers. Forgive the foggy recollection, I was in fifth grade.

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    13. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by dramaley · · Score: 1

      The circle of human knowledge goes roughly like this:

      philosophy -> mathematics -> physics -> chemistry -> biology -> psychology -> sociology -> anthropology -> mythology -> philosophy

      It will require much hand-waving and glossing over of details to explain, but here goes: Philosophy is the basis of math (didn't math spring from philosophy long ago?). Physics is just applied math. Chemistry is a branch of physics (dealing with interactions between atomic electrons). Biology is a result of chemistry. Psychology is based in biology. Psychology on a large scale is sociology. On an even larger scale is anthropology. Anthropologists study mythology, and mythology can be lumped back in with philosophy, making it circular. The circle should work regardless of which element you place first, as long as they are kept in order. Suggestions for additions to the circle and an explanation of why they fit where they do are welcome.

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    14. Re:Chemistry is fun-damental by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm ... Physics is not just applied math.
      You can't derive F = MA, mathematics is the language of physics but not its basis.

  6. Do you know what the WIFE of the by TerryAtWork · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat said when she realized he had mistaken her for a hat?

    'You're putting me on'

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    1. Re:Do you know what the WIFE of the by TerryAtWork · · Score: 2

      Wow - just had your first beer, huh schoolgirl?

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  7. Who is Scott Lockwood? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And why does he matter? Does he run K5?

    1. Re:Who is Scott Lockwood? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot to care.

  8. Stop lecturing me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    My children are fine with their violent television programming. They don't need any chemistry knowledge. And they look up to our great president, George Williamson Bush.

  9. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chemical Remember YOU!

  10. The Curve by Tisha_AH · · Score: 1

    Naah, for the good chemistry read "The Curve of Binding Energy". There was a semi-related thread a few days ago about shock sensitive explosive compounds. Reminder..... Never NEVER put hair spray into a ceramic cookie bowl and light a match. I made the mistake of inhaling through my nose. youth darwin award nominee, 1973)

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    1. Re:The Curve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but Ted, [who was a true genius] was hounded into politicslly correct neurotic-guilt-and-early-death which mr sacks was fortunate enough to escape.

  11. I read it, it's great.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Ok, since I've got an M.S. in chemistry, I'm just a tad biased,
    but I'd recommend this book to anyone who has even a slight interest in chemistry,
    or in the history of chemistry. (or history of science)

  12. Uncle Tungsten by juushin · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This book is tremendously well written - Oliver Sacks truly has a brilliant mind and was a character as an adolescent.

  13. blah by DSL-Admin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kids will go to the library to rent this, and then be confronted by men in dark suits with earpiece communicators, then dragged off in unmarked cars... Their crime will be "attempted possesion of intelligent material." They will be considered a threat to the US because they tried to learn how to use chemicals correctly...

  14. It's incredibly good by Artifex · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Sounds like I would really like this...


    From what I have managed to read of the book, it's incredibly witty but also gives a lot of nifty scientific trivia (I have spouted his facts about element name histories, etc., at my dad, who, even with a metallurgical background, was suitably impressed), as well as being a great story about what an unusual life Oliver Sacks has been blessed with. He made me wish I had been there, or even had some of his experiences myself, and there are very few autobiographies I have read that have left me feeling the first, much less the second. In fact, I had intended this book to be my first review for Slashdot, but I misplaced it in one of my moving boxes back in November. (cry!)

    Thanks for reminding me that I haven't finished unpacking.
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    1. Re:It's incredibly good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have spouted his facts about element name histories, etc., at my dad, who, even with a metallurgical background, was suitably impressed
      Unfortunate schmelting accident?

    2. Re:It's incredibly good by Artifex · · Score: 2
      Unfortunate schmelting accident?

      Ha! No, actually, he got a degree involving metallurgy in some fashion, but later got a degree in something else, and his career was in something else entirely, etc., so that was the easiest way to say it. I'll tell him your joke, though. He'll probably stroke his copper whiskers (that being the subject of one of his dissertations) and chuckle.

      P.S. Lest you think otherwise, while my family has a heavy math/science background (my mom was even more intense than my dad), I wound up with a degree in the social sciences, so don't discount me when I say the "hard" science stuff doesn't interfere with this being an excellent read. Though it does make me want to find my old college chemistry books and see what I slept through...
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    3. Re:It's incredibly good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thanks :)

  15. You're both wrong by swb · · Score: 2

    Philosophy is the foundation of knowledge. Without it we wouldn't be able to make decisions about what we should study.

    1. Re:You're both wrong by gte910h · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dick Measuring contests about what we studied in college are the foundation of knowledge. Without them, we wouldn't feel inclined to study philosophy, chemistry, or physics, because we could get laid both being ugly AND ignorant.

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  16. Intellectual curiosity == TERRORISM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You are not supposed to wonder how the phone system works. You are not allowed to understand chemisty. You are not allowed to study cryptography.

    We raised you to be compliant CONSUMERS . Anything else is unpatriotic!

  17. Emasculated chemistry sets by HisMother · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When Sachs was a boy, kids could get their hands on basically anything. When I was a lad, things were a bit more restrictive, but not much (this is thirty years ago or so.) But now, chemistry sets can't contain much of anything -- it's really sad. I'd like to buy one for my daughter when she's a bit older, but really, what's the point? We've gotten so overprotective as a society that we've lost something in the bargain.

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    1. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by The+G · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Amen to that! I was able to raid some university store-rooms for chemicals and so had lots of chemisty-set fun growing up even in the 80s, but it just keeps getting harder and harder. It's nigh impossible for kids to get dangerous chemicals today, and our society is poorer for it.

      Some day, when I have kids, I shall have to find ways to import black-market dangerous old chemistry sets from Elbonia or something.
      --G

    2. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
      It's nigh impossible for kids to get dangerous chemicals today, and our society is poorer for it.

      so.. much.. stupidity.. in.. one.. sentence.. computer .. melting... melting.. melting..

    3. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by kableh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I dont know that it is overprotective so much as overlitigious. I remember the chemistry set I got as a kid. The regeants were little plastic containers with strips of paper, to which you added distilled water. You used little plastic pipettes to transfer a miniscule amount of chemical to the little "test tube tray" that came with it. Let the good times begin! This was about 10 years ago I imagine.

      The real fun started when I inherited my uncle's chemistry set. Glass test tubes! Real chemicals! Nitrocellulose here I come!

    4. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by SteveAstro · · Score: 2, Informative

      Its becoming a world wide problem for amateur scientists.
      (Society Amateur Scientists have a letter writing campaign about it.

      Steve

    5. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it certainly seems to follow an almost universal rule that if there is no possibility of loss there is no possibility of gain

    6. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by zymurgy_cat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Amen to that! I was able to raid some university store-rooms for chemicals and so had lots of chemisty-set fun growing up even in the 80s, but it just keeps getting harder and harder. It's nigh impossible for kids to get dangerous chemicals today, and our society is poorer for it. It's not that hard if they've got access to an adult. I work for a chemical company, and I've bought stuff from VW&R, Fisher, etc. without any questions as to whether or not my company was actually a company. Thanks to credit cards and on-line ordering, you can get almost anything. True, you'd probably have a hard time getting your hands on large volumes of truly dangerous stuff (you know, like fluorine gas), but you could easily get most of the chemicals you could find in old kits. Uh, BTW, if anyone reports this to Uncle Ashcroft for potential terrorist activity, my name's George and I live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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    7. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by skeedlelee · · Score: 3, Interesting

      University store rooms (at least the lab based ones) often have fairly interesting and obscure things in them. Have been around for a few clearings out of lab chem stocks and there's alway sat least one event of: "2kg of XXX! Didn't they outlaw that like 15 years ago..." "Maybe and this is about 20 years old". This is why Gen. Chem. profs will mention to examine old bottles labeled 'ether' without touching them (or speaking loudly around them) even when precious few students will ever run into one of these items, they are found periodically.

    8. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by skeedlelee · · Score: 2

      Not sure this actually went anywhere, but I remember some story about a movement to track chemical purchases (hopefully by delivery address) in an effort to reduce the possibility of someone making something nasty by just ordering it. In particular, I remember a study where someone bought and assembled a microbiology production facility using off the shelf stuff ordered through a bunch of distributors. Spooky stuff. Am a bit conflicted on whether or not government oversight is a good thing here.

    9. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Funny

      ....even when precious few students will ever run into one of these items, they are found periodically.

      Nyuk, nyuk. I see your elemental attempt at chemistry humor, but I've turned the tables on you.

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    10. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      Am a bit conflicted on whether or not government oversight is a good thing here.

      Isn't there some bit of controversy over whether government "oversight" allowed the events of 9/11?

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    11. Re:Emasculated chemistry sets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      When Sachs was a boy, kids could get their hands on basically anything.

      Some interesting chemicals are still out there; you just need to know where to look.

      As for instructional self-study material, this looks very interesting. (I'd like to try the ultramarine recipe some day.)

      I screwed around with chemicals when I was little. Managed to electrolyze magnesium metal from Epsom salts, but I have no idea how I did it :(

  18. Obvious Simpsons Quote... by emmetropia · · Score: 0

    Alan Wrench : I need Tungsten to live! TUNGSTEN!!!!

  19. Curious about chemicals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a fun read about growing up curious about chemicals

    Remember kids, Nancy Reagan said, "Just say no!"

  20. Memories of Phenethylamines I Have Known and Loved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one of my favorites books to read from my chemical induced childhood. I also thought non-racemic chemicals were best. Especially the dextrorotory type.

  21. Chemist can go far.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worth noting that the only British Prime Minister to have been elected holding a science degree was a chemist (Margaret Hilda Thatcher, who got her degree in Chemistry (well, oficially Natural Science) from Somerville College, Oxford).

  22. It's a good read by F1_Fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a chemist I enjoyed this book and cursed Sacks for having the opportunities in childhood that I never had :) He grew up in a time of scienfific learning that will never be repeated.

    Interestingly he mentions in the book how he lost interest in Chemistry at a certain point. That happens to be one of the points that most undergrads start freaking out and looking for a different major. LOL.

    Readers may, like me, start skipping over the parts of the book where Sacks starts wandering away from science and into personal topics. Do we really need to know how his first orgasm came about?

    1. Re:It's a good read by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      " As a chemist I enjoyed this book and cursed Sacks for having the opportunities in childhood that I never had :) He grew up in a time of scienfific learning that will never be repeated."

      Not repeated but different. We sure didn't have digital logic circuit kits in the 60's. Heck, you can buy a superconducting magnet experiment kit now, and maybe in a few years kids can get their own Quantum Entanglement Cat Box Kit :-) .

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  23. Say What? Stephen King is dead at 55 says who?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not at CNN,Fox , or ABC, @ 12:15 est so someones pulling your chain

    1. Re:Say What? Stephen King is dead at 55 says who?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's YOUR chain that got pulled!

  24. you weren't a good chemist without meeting one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in the 70's or 80's

  25. if you like this you'll also like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    william bushnell stout's autobigraphy, 'so away i went'
    homer hickam's, 'rocket boys'
    and of course richard feynman's, What Do YOU Care What Other People Think?

    on the novel front
    Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson which I couldn't put down these holidays approx 550 pages and all good stuff
    ww2, mining, submarines, cryptography, gold, girls, computer history
    turing is one of the characters :-)

    -death to TV-

  26. MODERATORS: It's NOT offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    You goddamn dummies need to stop your mod abuse. If you really feel the need to push this post down, go for "Troll" or the cowardly "Overrated".

    Personally, I found it "Funny".

    1. Re:MODERATORS: It's NOT offtopic by Black+Rabbit · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Thank you!

  27. How to get dangerous chemicals by mangu · · Score: 2

    Timothy McVeigh had no problem at all in getting a truckload of ammonium nitrate, it's the most used fertilizer today. It's also an explosive by itself, but terrorists often mix it with diesel or some other form of combustible liquid.

    1. Re:How to get dangerous chemicals by another_henry · · Score: 1

      Ammonium Nitrate is one of the least sensitive explosives on Earth, and virtually impossible to set off. To detonate it you require a significant amount of a primary explosive, which needs expertise and materials that are harder to get hold of. That said, you can just use drain cleaner, hair bleach and paint dissolver.

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  28. Points out need for android Aunts, Uncles by StefanJ · · Score: 3, Funny
    This book made me way jealous of Sacks. His family was bursting at the seams with brainy engineer, scientist, and doctor types. (Like: "During the time I was interested in airships, Uncle Lyle gave me a tour of his dirigible factory in Sussex.")

    This convinces me that we need to make available to every family a set of android relatives who can visit and tell the kids about their fascinating professions. This would make up for the fact that most parents these days work in malls and offices and haven't thought about science since their last week in High School.

    You wouldn't need to make a set of Aunt & Uncle teacher androids for each family. They could be shared around, and use different names and face-prosthetics so that they appear to be unique.

    Stefan

    1. Re:Points out need for android Aunts, Uncles by hawkfish · · Score: 1
      This convinces me that we need to make available to every family a set of android relatives who can visit and tell the kids about their fascinating professions.
      Such people may be closer than you realize. We actually invited our neighbors over for a party the other day and I found out that the husband had worked on the space shuttle engines. This was wonderful to learn because my 4 year old is currently fascinated by the shuttle and I hope to get them together some time soon (they even offered to babysit for us!)

      So go meet your neighbors - they may be cooler than you ever imagined.
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      You will not drink with us, but you would taste our steel? - Walter Matthau, The Pirates
  29. thats a real book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read it too, the story of the character who made various substitued phenethylamines for the US Govt. He made every fla\vor sending them for testing. Apparently he did a little after hours testing himself. After the govt saw his novel, his lab was kaput. Great read.

  30. Actually.... by Planesdragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sex is the foundation of knowledge. If not for the desire to mate, we humans wouldn't have a drive to improve ourselves and the lives of our offspring.

    Just watch. Take mating out of the picture, and see how few years it takes for advancement to grind to a halt for lack of grinding.

  31. Get this book. Read it. You'll be glad you did. by DoraLives · · Score: 1

    Nothing much to add here excepting my voice to the choir. Sacks has the Magic Touch. Everything he writes seems to be top notch. Glad to see this favorible review in /.

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    Is it fascism yet?
  32. Great way to create a geek. by Pedrito · · Score: 3, Informative

    I had chemistry sets as a child and they definitely helped to turn me on to science. While I wasn't much of a chemist (though I did major in it for 1 year), it has very appealing aspects for children. It's something real that you can touch, see, and sometimes to the chagrin of parents, smell.

    I don't even know if you can buy the types of chemistry sets I had as a child. I nearly blinded myself bending glass tubes (don't cool them in water!!!) I can understand why companies would be hesitant to market these in our modern society. After all, the American dream has become, "Sue someone for a million dollars."

    My interest in chemistry led to an interest in astronomy and even electronics, so I'm very thankful for the opportunity I had as a child and only hope I can give my child the same opportunity to learn. Hopefully without blinding him/her.

  33. Nah, real Aunts and Uncles are better by JWhitlock · · Score: 2
    I agree that kids need good role models growing up. But, as far as I know, I'm the first engineer in my family, and the lack of role models didn't hurt me much. My parents did encourage me, with chemistry sets, the radio shack electrical lab, and a subscription to Discover, but I feel they would have been happy just to see me finish college.

    When I told friends and family that I was studying to be an electrical engineer, the next question always was "What will you do with that?" One of the EE professors told us the standard answer on the first day of class: "Whatever they will pay me to do". That was good enough for most people, and good enough for me - I'd take any work that was intellectually challenging and stimulating, and made sure that I didn't have to eat Ramen. EEs seemed to do a lot of different things, and none seemed to be looking for work.

    My Aunt was the only one that followed up: "What does that mean? What will you really be doing?"

    "Um, I'm not sure. Maybe designing circuits, working with computers, something like that."

    "Wow, that sounds really boring. I mean, you might find that interesting, but what will you tell people at parties?"

    I had no answer. I still have no answer, and I get asked the question "what do you do" at every single party I've ever been to. Every answer I've come up with gets blank stares and/or nods. Thanks to my Aunt, I was prepared, and now I make sure I have a couple of topics of conversation in my back pocket, because no one wants to know what an engineer does.

  34. Steam! by gandalf23atwork · · Score: 1
    Bah!

    I truely disagree with all of you. It's Steam! Steam forms the base of all scientific progress. Steam can save the world!

    -Professor Steamhead

    1. Re:Steam! by cybermace5 · · Score: 2

      But, where steam come from? Need fire. Fire Good!

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  35. MOD THIS WAY UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    You said it. I am a patriot, and feel that Bush has dirtied the name of The United States.

    1. Re:MOD THIS WAY UP! by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      The restrictions cited predate Bush.

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      As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.

  36. Chemistry is not fundamental. by Bikku · · Score: 1
    Chemistry is just a branch of molecular physics.

    Which is just a branch of atomic physics.

    Which is just a branch of subatomic physics.

    Which is just a branch of quantum mechanics.

    Which is just a branch of psychology.

    Which is just a branch of biology.

    Which is just a branch of chemistry.

    Which is...

    Uhmm. Nevermind.

  37. Chemistry in Soviet Russia (no kidding!) by iamacat · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Well, I grew up in the said place, next to a science research center (anyone from Academgorodok?). My school lab was actually kind of well stocked, complete with a nice jar of uranium oxide "for making green glass". Most of my classmates on the other hand would be expelled from a school in Harlem in a day. One of the few redeeming effects of that is that the chemistry teacher was so moved that she let me have a free run of the place. Also, my father was able to leech some stuff from his friends.

    When one has access to such resources, the first thing to do is to answer some questions to bother young minds:

    • Q: What happens if you drop a piece of potassium into concentrated nitric acid? A: For a few seconds, nothing. Then you get a potassium bullet that shoots out of test tube and embeds itself in the ceiling.
    • Q: How to make tear gas from household stuff. A: You need acetone (the original nail polish remover). Pump a chlorine gas though. You can make chlorine by passing DC current though a salt solutio. Hmmm... wonder if bleech would work? Or mixture of bleech with vinigar.
    • Q: How to make a contact explosive? A: Pour amonium solution on iodine crystals until they turn into black powder. While it's wet, drop SMALL crumbs on the school floor. Once dry, it will go off when someone steps on it, giving a satisfying firecracker sound and a wonderful whiff of purple iodine wapor. The fun could go on for hours.
    With the essential needs taken care of, I actually started doing research. Not that I was likely to discover anything, but I did stuff based on hunch, kept a journal and had a lot of fun. By heating P with some organic stuff, I got a test tube that not just glowed, but blinked in regular intervals. I also went to student competitions and got a second place in the country once.

    Is it dangerous to give the good stuff to children/teenagers? Well, we did have one case where someone mishandled acetone peroxide (a much stronger contact explosive than NI3). Basically, they had to scrub the walls of his dorm room to get his cranial matter into the casket. But the truth be told, you WILL do something dangerous when you are growing up. For this one story, I know countless others who died from drugs or got killed in a gang clash. Might as well redirect that risk that one would take anyway to some ultimately good purpose.

    So what happened eventually. Well, I came to US to dodge draft. If you are reading this and have a poor country with too many potential scientists/engineers that you just can't get rid of, because they are not that crazy about money... well, I think you know now how to solve this problem nicely. So anyway, chemistry classes here really, insanely suck. I mean, titration!!! Chemistry should have exposions, flashes of light, weird smells, holes in the cloth and multi-colored stains on hands. Not the lame drops of one transparent liquid into another one with nothing happening when they make contact.

    So anyway, I saw that this field is pretty much closed to fun in US. And then that another one was, at that time, still wide open. I read a couple of stories. One was "The hacker's crackdown" and of course it's pretty lame, but it introduced a concept that I was never exposed to in Russia. That you can actually visit places around the world without leaving your home and learn something about what people there are doing. Another one was a story about the first internet worm. This made me feel like you can throw a pebble into the ocean and watch it grow into Tsunami. Like finger of the god. So anyway, I played with PC programming a little bit before, but this really made me learn UNIX, to see how people do such wonderous things.

    Of course, the first target were school systems. The very first thing I learned is the effect of for(;;) fork(); on old UNIX systems. I actually planned to just run it for a few seconds and then ^C it, but apparently telnetd just didn't get enough CPU cycles to process my keystrokes. I got an angry e-mail and apologized.

    The next thing I figured out is about setuid shell scripts and race conditions. I didn't think about link to -i, So I just made a link to the script to my home directory, ran it and then very quickly replaced it with my own script. Sometimes, the shell wouldn't open the file yet and ran my code instead.

    After these lucky breaks, I gradually learned less lame stuff. Like booting Sun 3's with -i flag to run my own code instead of /sbin/init, even though -s boot would ask for password. Or replacing the crypt function in libc.so to execl /bin/sh when passed a certain string. The first time I tried this, I messed up the system because I tried to use cp instead of mv and it was itself dynamically linked. I was sorry for the admin who had to restore libc from the backup, but got a good understanding of shared libraries.

    Since I behaved myself when I got root access, the university was surprisingly tolerant. Eventually professors started asking me to install programs for their classes, since the regular sysop was too lazy. Then I got a student job doing the same thing officially. As with chemistry, I got my fix of watching things blow up and moved to regular programming, which I am doing to this day.

    I wonder though what options are available to students now. With DMCA, and terrorist bullshit that must restrict all the fun activities both in chemistry and programming... I would imagine the current generation would learn programming by writting VB for their palladium-enabled PC and constantly checking if their code infringes on anyone's IP rights or could be possibly misused to let others do the same thing. Thanks god I was born earlier and had a benign way to occupy my mind while growing up.

    1. Re:Chemistry in Soviet Russia (no kidding!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. adduct made with equimolar amount nitroethane, benzaldehyde and catalytic amount butyl amine. Set in the dark 2 weeks till crystallized.
      2.Reduce the above B-nitro styrene adduct with lithium aluminum hydride, volia amphetamine.
      Lots more fun than sodium

    2. Re:Chemistry in Soviet Russia (no kidding!) by iamacat · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... Those are not exactly household chemicals. Budding young chemists might want to check this page for suggested home experiments instead. See what I mean about finding benign hobbies though? If one doesn't get high hacking...

  38. Chemical memories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The book does include "non-chemical memories," too.

    Uhh, since I'm a living being... I do believe *all* my memories are chemical. :-)

  39. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...chain pulls you!

  40. where I first heard of Uncle Tungsten by calyxa · · Score: 1
    http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Elements/074 .html

    see the last sample on the page...

    I haven't read the book yet, but gave a copy to my sister-in-law for xmas.

    -calyxa

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    Decay! Decay! Decay! -Helium
  41. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For certain families, the science-centric childhood Sacks describes may seem perfectly ordinary. For others, it may give a glimpse into what your kids could learn, given some curiosity and the right environment.

    Translation: "Too bad you don't come from a science-centric family, but maybe your children can overcome your severe limitations."

  42. Independant Confirmation by windside · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I received this book for Christmas last year. I found it very interesting, albeit slightly slow.

    One of the things that made the book enjoyable was that Sacks is an excellent writer: He is able to hold his own in both fiction and non-fiction, as scientists often tend to.

    Uncle Tungsten gets top marks, especially for an autobiography, which I usually find godawful.

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    ...Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter.
    Churchill
  43. ROFL , THATS ME !!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This kills me,

    I was the eccentric cousin with the serious lab at home, having a stepfather head of a f500 companies chem research, me being a junior chemis already at the time of my mothers marriage to him, and a half baked uncle on my fathers side providing me with all kinds of nasties. My lab was shall we say......EVIL

    I really wish I had kept some of the items especially the really odd ones I inhereted like the "Atomic Age" chemistry set from the early 50's by Gilbert that had READ (and my Geiger Verified this ) Uranium Ore, as well as other RADIOACTIVE materials, like a piece of Hot window screen. I still have the manual for this beauty.

    Great memories.......

  44. The name is "Sachs" by ralphbecket · · Score: 1

    ...although hunting around on the web you would be forgiven for thinking it should be "Sacks". Type in "Oliver-Sachs Sacks" into Google - amazing.

    1. Re:The name is "Sachs" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently then the author himself doesn't even know how to spell his own name. I have several of his books and his name is most definitely Oliver Sacks! See the URL of his website: www.oliversacks.com .

  45. Hmm.. by aliusblank · · Score: 0, Redundant

    "...which sounds like a fun read about growing up curious about chemicals.."

    Was this by any chance set in the 60s?

  46. for your information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Tung sten" translates from swedish to english to "Heavy Stone".

  47. LOL Learning Kids = Terrorist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For others, it may give a glimpse into what your kids could learn, given some curiosity and the right environment.

    Only terrorists have intelligent children!.....

    Which of these quotes regarding education is not real?

    1. "School produces mental perversion and absolute stupidity." --Vincent Youmans, world-famous American physician and academic (1867)

    2. The creation of the compulsory public schooling system was ordered by "certain industrialists and the innovative who were altering the nature of the industrial process." --James Bryant Conant, President of Harvard University from 1933 to 1953 (1949)

    3. "We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or men of science." --Rockefeller's General Education Board (1906)

    4. Education is "the development of critical reasoning and the acquiring of basic facts relating to science, history, the arts, and similar areas." --Education Department (1968)

    The Education Department's report "Designing Education for the Future" (1968) actually defined education as "a means to achieve important economic and social goals of a national character." Many more of these scary ideas from the people who created, implemented, and continue to run the schooling system can be found in "Some Lessons From the Underground History of American Education" by John Taylor Gatto, New York State Teacher of the Year for 1991. [Everything You Know Is Wrong, page 274]

    In case you're dumb, quote 4 is the fake.

  48. Sexy Science by Nemus · · Score: 1

    If you go and read the interview that Sachs did shortly after the release of Uncle Tungsten in Wired magazine, he states that one of his greater problems with the modern culture is that the things that he was able and allowed to do are really no longer possible in todays world, a point that some others have raised here. Of course we all know the reasons that this is so: america, land of the lawsuits, political correctness, the new Mcarthy era of Terrorism, etc. But the real problem is that science and knowledge are no longer really seen as something mysterious and beckoning and, well, almost seductive, as it was in Sach's boyhood. Case in point. My little brother, who is 9, attends public school in Tenessee. I've looked through his textbooks, and I mean Jesus! Science, meaning chemistry, biology, physics, all of that isn't even taught until 6th grade!! So when I visit my parents and bring anything remotely intellectually(sic?) interesting, hes simply not interested. And not because hes not curious or questioning, almost all children are, its because hes never been, and really never will be exposed, at least in public school, to anything like it. And so it falls upon the parents, which is lucky for him, since my partents, mainly my mom, encouraged me to learn to such a degree that they let me leave public school and enter home-schooling and design my own curriculum. But what about other kids, who just want the kids to shut up and watch TV? The sad thing is, I'd say that Uncle Tungsten should be required reading for every child 3rd grade and up, just so they can get a hint of the alluring, and yes, innocently seductive pull of knowledge and discovery, but its references to various "dangerous" chemicals and their means of production means it would be banned in most public school libraries. Hmph.

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    Mod Points: Helping you keep your opinion to yourself.
  49. Nostalgia by Sayten241 · · Score: 1

    Ahh yes, read as Oliver Sack recall's the time when his uncle Tungsten got drunk and savagely beat him with a large steal rod. Who can forget the time when uncle Tungsten got angry after the football game and made Oliver try his new "magic potion" consisting of grain alcohol and arsenic designed to turn the drinker into a supreme being.

  50. Cool neighbors by jdeking1 · · Score: 1

    You bet your neighbors might be cool. Get this - my uncle (not Tungsten) worked for Kodak from the 60's through the 80's. He "couldn't tell us what he did." Sure, there is secrecy; industrial secrets have to be protected. But he wouldn't even talk about what field he was in - computers, chemistry, what? BS. He had a degree, he was an engineer. We knew that much, but he would not let us know any more. And we were family!

    Now, on to neighbors. When I moved out and bought a house, I had a VERY cool neighbor - I lived in the middle of cow country, but this one guy owned an antique clock shop. His specialty was antique watches and cuckoo clocks. I met him and his wife by chance, in a bar 12 miles away; he lived a half mile from my house. His home was filled with cuckoo clocks, grandfather clocks, railroad clocks; all antiques. He drove antique cars exclusively. His glasses frames were antiques! They heated their home with an antique coal stove. These people were *seriously* cool.

    Not to be too off-topic, I bought "Uncle Tungsten" shortly after I heard the author interviewed on NPR. I still haven't read it - it's in my stack of 24 (yes, 24) unread books. I truly enjoyed all of the sciences in school; I planned on a Chemistry major at college, but decided not to go at the last minute. Just as well, my fate lay in electronic design, which I just fell into years later - but I had a great talent for it; it has been extraordinarily fulfilling, and we all know how neat electronics can be. To be a part of the creation process is wonderful, and seeing the released products in action is spectactular.

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    "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." -- Robert Heinlein