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Slashback: Embed, Dougal, FireWire

Slashback this evening brings you a few corrections, updates, amplifications and reversals -- read on for more on the Xbox key cracking project, the new version of FireWire, and more.

Reality is just an illustrator's concept. In regards to the speculative piece about what animals will look like in the future, Ken Colangelo writes: "The author of After Man was Dougal Dixon, not Dougal Adams. He's got a pretty long track record as an amazing bio-illustrator.

He had, at one point, spoken of a book he was working on called "Man After Man" I believe. This would discuss what man would evolve into. In any case, I am probably his biggest (only?) fan and would appreciate it if you'd tell slashdot to correct his name ... This guy clearly needs to be working in speculative evolution again, now that computer graphics have caught up to his abilities. Animal Planet just doesn't seem to be that great at it."

A bit more on that secret FireWire, since it's no longer secret. cwill1004 writes "As was speculated yesterday, it turns out that Apple is indeed including a new higher-speed FireWire on its new laptops. Dubbed IEEE1394b, it appears to be primarily for external storage devices. One article on the Storage Supersite says that LaCie, Maxtor, SmartDisk, and Indigita have already hopped on board. The best part: IEEE1394b is backwards compatible, and available on both Mac and PC."

Perl undoes simplicity itself. ljb writes " I've re-written Tom Murphy's 'embed' bit-flipping program in Perl. At 76 characters (shorter than a standard 80-character width terminal line), I believe this qualifies as a Perl "one-liner". Heck, you could even fit this on an old IBM punchcard (ignoring character set limitations). Here's the Perl script --
$/=\4;map{?OS/2?|$f&&$f++==2?$c-=2+vec($_,0,32)/4: ++$c||s/../\0\0/s;print}<>"

So get distributed crackin' ... scubacuda writes "On. Off. Now it's on again? According to PC World (et al), The Neo Project again tackles the challenge of cracking Microsoft's encryption key."

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  1. Is that legal by yourmom16 · · Score: 1, Informative

    The Neo Project again tackles the challenge of cracking Microsoft's encryption key." Isnt this prohibited by the DMCA?

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  2. Re:and the winner of uber geek 2002 is.... by EricWright · · Score: 4, Informative
    I hope this was a schoold assignment

    Three words: perlgolf.sourceforge.net

  3. Man after Man by potaz · · Score: 5, Informative

    He did finish the book "Man after Man". The basic idea was that we genetically engineer about 3 or 4 different races (plain dwellers, undersea people, etc.) and then end up dying off when the magnetic poles reverse. The rest of the book shows how these races evolve over the next thousands of years. Pretty neat stuff, lots of pictures and thought put into it.

  4. Re:"Compatible" by mbessey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just so you know:
    There is one "classic" Firewire port and one Firewire 800 port on the 17" Powerbook. So no need for an adapter.

    I remember hearing somewhere that the Powerbook comes with an adapter so you can plug old Firewire cables into the Firewire 800 port, but I couldn't find any confirmation of that on the Apple site.

    -Mark

  5. Re:"Compatible" by isolenz · · Score: 4, Informative

    The new Firewire is signal compatible, but it has a new plug. So you need adapters to plug old cables into the new PowerBooks.

    Actually, the new powerbooks (as awesome as they are) come complete with an 1394 AND 1394b connections. So users won't need adapters, they'll just have two ports for their firewire peripherals. If the user takes up all the bandwidth on the 400mb/s port, he can then get an adapter for the 800mb/s and keep on adding new devices.

    Apple will think of any problem like this before release, and then fix it.

    -isolenz

  6. Re:"Compatible" by AJWM · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 1394b spec actually calls for speeds up to 3200 Mb/sec, being an 8x improvment over the 1394a spec (800, 1600 and 3200 vs 100, 200 and 400). The spec also calls for cable lengths up to 50 meters over plastic fibre, as I recall.

    The current Apple implementation may be a price/performance trade-off.

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  7. Re:"Compatible" by 90XDoubleSide · · Score: 5, Informative

    Firewire 800 uses 9 pins instead of 6, and it uses optical cable to get longer range (100 meters on FW800 vs. 4.5 on FW400 and 5 on USB2). See the Apple FireWire page.

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  8. Man after Man by SWestrup · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have both "After Man" and "Man after Man" by Dougal Dixon. The first is, IMHO, a much better read than the second.

    My main problem with the second is that it assumes that man will have a brief fling with genetic engineering, creating a few new subspecies, and then die out due to genetic flaws. After that, other than a bit of 'Animal Husbandry' by one subspecies on another, no directed evolution takes place. Frankly, I found this so unlikely a scenario that I was completely unable to suspend belief and enjoy the book for the speculation that it was.

    The First book was MUCH better. It simply assumes that man wipes himself out by some (unspecified) means, as well as taking every endagered species with him. The book then tries to imagine how evolution might fill all of the resultant vacant ecological niches. Many of the animals are interesting and even when implausible, are fascinating to wonder about.

  9. Too bad it requires googleflops. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seriously, rsa-2048 is like giving a million monkeys a million type writers, its not going to work.

    Encryption is powerful for a reason, people DON'T want their files being crax0red. rc5-72 projects gonna take 3000 YEARS to crack.

    The "standard", 128-bit is 2^64 times stronger than 64 bit. it is FUTILE to even TRY and crack it. Once somethings encrypted with it, the ONLY way to crack it is to comprimise the key.

    RSA-2048 on the other hand, requires factorisation of huge numbers that are not computable with todays computers, unless you have a couple of trillion orders of magnatude of the current age of the universe to spare.

    IT'S Microsoft's box, It's what THEY are in control with, IT'S THEIR Black box! Microsoft Isnt gonna let any old idiot write crap for its machine, If you wanna put linux on a console, get a Playstation 2 and the OFFICAL KIT!

  10. "man after man" by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 3, Informative

    He did finish it.

    My copy says (C) 1990

    It's not just creepy anymore.

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  11. Impossible to obfuscate C? Surely you jest... by douglips · · Score: 5, Informative
    Never heard of the the The International Obfuscated C Code Contest, I supposed.

    Here's an example (natori), from the Year 2000 winners:
    #include <stdio.h>
    #include <math.h>
    double l;main(_,o,O){return putchar((_--+22&&_+44&&main(_,-43,_),_&&o)?(main(- 43,++o,O),((l=(o+21)/sqrt(3-O*22-O*O),l*l<4&&(fabs (((time(0)-607728)%2551443)/405859.-4.7+acos(l/2)) <1.57))[" #"])):10);}

    It supposedly generates a picture of the moon in it's current phase.

    Impossible? feh.
  12. Re:X-Box Crack & Cheating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No. Even if the source is closed, someone will generally find a way to intercept the protocol (like the quake aimbot proxy cheats).... Stuff like that... Open source just lets everyone look over and fix vulnerabilities.

  13. Re:Firewire would be nice... by tbmaddux · · Score: 5, Informative
    You won't see a firewire mouse...
    Well, good! What mouse needs to transmit data on the order of gigabits per second (IEEE 1394b specs with speeds of 0.8, 1.6, 3.2 Gbps which BTW also refutes your claim that its speed doesn't come close to Ethernet)?

    Apple has it right. Use USB for low-power low-bandwidth serial devices like mice, most printers and scanners, and heck even Zip drives, and use FireWire for the high-bandwidth peripherals. The connectors are small enough that our laptops can handle multiples of each. So bring 'em all!

    FYI, an old but still accurate response to the announcement of USB 2.0 from David Every.

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  14. WiebeTech has 1394b too by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here are articles about WiebeTech's announcement of 1394b support:

    WiebeTech also now supports ATA-6 (large IDE drives) in its FireWire bridge product line.

    (WiebeTech is my consulting client. I did the firmware and user interface for FireWire Encrypt).

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  15. Re:Ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    It totally depends on the processor and the code in question. Blindly unrolling loops can kill performance if you put too much pressure on the I cache.

  16. IEEE1394 isn't going away. by dmaxwell · · Score: 5, Informative

    Firewire has one other point in it's favor aside from speed. USB requires a PC to arbitrate the bus while Firewire does not. It is possible to transfer video from DV camera to DV camera with a Firewire cable for instance. If the camera in question understands the partition and filesystem formats, it can even be downloaded directly onto a Firewire hard drive. I also remember reading somewhere that USB is bursty compared to Firewire. That is, properly designed Firewire devices have higher sustained data rates than any form of USB. This is more shades of IDE vs. SCSI I suppose.

    Basically, USB is intended to interface devices to PCs. Intel likes it that way. Firewire is meant to interconnect devices to each other as well as PCs.

  17. What I hate about firewire video by t0qer · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a windows only issue, but why is it that the DV manufacturers decided in their infinite wisdom to make it so you could only capture in one format (DV)?

    I used to love using my analog BT878 card to do software mpeg compression while I captured. It saved me a ton of disk space and let me capture many different things.

    The recomended disk space for 2 hours of DV is 30 gigs. Since I had no other option I just went out and bought an 80 gig drive.

    So I guess my question to the 1394b creators is, will I be able to software compress a DV stream as I capture it? Or will I have to use oodles of disk space like I do now.

    1. Re:What I hate about firewire video by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 3, Informative

      DV is already compressed. Each frame is compressed individually for a constant data rate of 25 megabits per seconds.

      Some video editing programs (like Final Cut) allow you to edit the video while it is still on the DV tape, then render it to a Quicktime movie directly. You do not need an intermediate copy on the hard disk.

  18. Re:Anyone thought of this when trying to crack.. by burris · · Score: 4, Informative
    Uh yeah, that was thought of a few thousand years ago. Known as "Direct Search Factorization" it is basically brute force and the slowest algorithm. There are much faster algorithms available and they have been used on the RSA factoring challenges.


    A page on factoring algorithms


    burris

  19. Re:"Compatible" by emoon · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Macintouch discussion on the new PowerBooks
    As the name implies, it is an 800Mbps implementation of the IEEE-1394b standard. It utilizes a new connector, dubbed bilingual, and developed specifically to support the new interface. As before, there are connections for signals as well as power. There is still no guaranteed power spec for supplied bus power. With an appropriate adaptor, FireWire 800 bilingual connections can be used with legacy 6-pin or 4-pin connections, now dubbed FireWire 400.

    FireWire 800 peripherals should be compatible with existing, slower devices provided the right adaptor cable is used. LaCie FireWire 800 products (see separate announcement) include 2 cables - a "FireWire 800 to FireWire 800" and a "FireWire 800 to FireWire 400 (6-pin)". The FireWire 800 connector is called bilingual, as it signifies the interface is compatible with legacy as well as new, faster interfaces.

    IEEE-1394b also specifies a "beta" connector option. This is for FireWire interfaces that cannot be used at the lower, legacy and compatible speeds. Detailed information is available at the Molex website.

    So the new plug is a feature enhancement, not a brazen way to force people to buy new cables...whenever someone ships FireWire 800 only products
  20. Re:"Compatible" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Sorry, you are incorrect.

    This page was written by marketroids, and they missed the entire point.

    IEEE 1394b defines several different PHY (physical layer) specifications in order to have the same basic signaling methology.

    The PHY's specified in IEEE 1394b are the standard copper (the 9-wire cable you mentioned) for speeds up to 800 mbps at 4 meters, UTP-5 w/ an RJ-45 connector for speeds up to 100 mbps at 100 meters, and 1000-micron plastic optical fiber (POF) and 50-micron multimode fiber for up to 3.2Gbps at varying distances. I don't know how many of these PHY's have been adopted, but they're in the standard (kind of like 1000baseCX 50-ohm balanced copper cables w/ DB-9 connectors for GigE that have never been produced).

    Calling IEEE 1394b "Firewire 800" is a misnomer. It is in all reality a very adaptable, wide-reaching standard for high-speed serial bus applications.

  21. Worked with Cygwin and gcc by arcadum · · Score: 2, Informative

    I typed
    mvg@GEB ~
    $ gcc moon_phase.c -o moon_phase

    mvg@GEB ~
    $ ls
    identd.c moon_phase.c moon_phase.exe quotes
    temp test.c test.exe

    mvg@GEB ~
    $ ./moon_phase.exe

    LAM
    _ENE SFIL
    ++TERAVO DEDLA
    ___EMNE SFILTERA
    ____AVOIDEDLAME ESS
    ____FILTERI ABASTARD
    _____SONOFAN VILPLANF
    ____ORSOMET INGORNOTH
    _____INGLAMEN SSFILTER
    ------ISANOY NGBUTIWILL
    -------MAKEDOWITHW ATIHA
    ------BLAHBLAH LAHBLA HH
    BLAHBLAH LAHBLAHHH
    bLAHB AHBLAHBL HHH
    BLA BLAHBL HBLA HH
    YOUGETTHEIDEABLAH
    BL HBLAHBLA BLAHH
    bLAHB AHBLAHBLAH
    BLAHBLAHBL HBLA
    BLAH LAHB AHB
    LAM NESS ILT
    ERIS AMEE
    YES

    mvg@GEB ~
    $

  22. Re:One more application... by ruiner13 · · Score: 3, Informative
    I was in Best Buy, or The Good Guys the other day, and happened to see a display of stereo equipment. The manufacturer was pitching the product line as using Firewire to interconnect all the devices. Personally I think this is a great design. Suddenly each device has a power cord, and a single data cable. And then the reciever has a "hub" built in. FAR less spaghetti behind the system, FAR less opportunities for noise to leak into the wiring, etc.

    The manufacturer is mitsubishi, they call it Net Command and they have all their pro. equipment firewire enabled. When you connect any device, it appears in a device manager-like screen where you can choose to send video and/or sound to any connected device that can output video and/or sound. Very cool, and WAAAAY better than RCA, coax, S-Video, or Component.

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  23. Re:"Compatible" by Lars+T. · · Score: 4, Informative
    Pure theory. Reality. More reality. Need I go on?

    Gotta love Google ;-)

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  24. Re:my take on the Perl bit flipper by Tom7 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been told that the checksum isn't actually checked by windows -- apparently, my program updates it incorrectly (using an 8-bit sum instead of a 32-bit one) and doesn't update some other global header checksum. I haven't fixed the program in case I ever end up going to court over it (where it might matter that I haven't touched the page in 6 years), and because it works anyway...